/Rude Rangers

[Mastade]

People who QQ about stealthers get on my tits a bit. Stealthers have crap speed and cannot move around fast, if a battle appears around them they will join in. If you QQ about stealtehrs adding well, tbh its probably you that ran to where they are and started fighting rather than the other way around. Besides who needs them rps more, your group or a soloer, QQing at soloers for helping where they can just makes you look like a greedy rp whore.

Omfg are you deaf, dumb and blind?.. did you really read my post?. Or did you just see "/rude Rangers" and thought that i was QQing about stealther adds, so you just had to write a hell lot of bullshit about how sacred stealthers are?.. jeez

What >I WROTE< was basically that.. hib hasn't got as many players as mid/alb.. we need more fg hibs out there.. stop rolling rangers you narcissists..

 

[Boni]

Omfg are you deaf, dumb and blind?.. did you really read my post?. Or did you just see "/rude Rangers" and thought that i was QQing about stealther adds, so you just had to write a hell lot of bullshit about how sacred stealthers are?.. jeez

What >I WROTE< was basically that.. hib hasn't got as many players as mid/alb.. we need more fg hibs out there.. stop rolling rangers you narcissists..

Sorry, it wasnt aimed at you, really, more at some of the subsequent posters and other players in general. Appologies if it seemed that way.

 

[Aldias]

All im saying is that your rangers arent half as usefull in defending the realm as your support char or whatever main you have... and that is one of the reasons why hib suck arse atm.. we are _underpopulated_

I am gona totaly disagree here

Rangers and mainly range attack whatever is that, bolt spells or arrows, is the basic issue to defend a keep.

Arent half as usefull in defending the realm?

I ll say they are more than 50% usefull for defence, as far as rangers and voiders are the only chrs who can keep enemy range in safe distance.

How are u gona deal with archers who got 2300 + bonus or sorcs mezz (1875) or even aoe amnesia (2300)?

Hibernia doesnt suck because people rolling rangers. This curent situation (which passed now ) happend coz we are outnumbered. Not 1000000 mages or healers or whatever else exept rangers would improve this situation.

What <will> improve it will be teamwork and co - operation ... this is what Hib missin atm.

Rangers is No1 chr for keep defence in NF but of course all classes have their own rolle and all classes should been played here. even mana menta is very important in NF

Single Target 1875+ range and aoe range... this is what u need in NF to survive

 

[Tallen]

My ranger got powerleveld all teh way to 50 just in time for NF. I dont really see any shame in it, ive leveld more characters and done more pve the normal way than 99% of hib, and I dont think tanking poorly or soloing trees for 20 days would really improve my game, and im sure as hell not doing it to impress some old school rangers.

I rolled one for a number of factors, I really enjoyed playing a ranger in BG1, I knew they where strong this patch, and I have tanks,healers and mages, I needed a steatlher and chose ranger over nightshade. Like a few others im sick of playing lfg and its nice to have a proper solo option or someone to have fun with other stealthers.

I think this is a different discussion altogether.

No one is saying that having a pl'd ranger is a bad thing, more that so many rangers in rvr really leaves hib with a lack of balance....possibly part of the reason were getting raped so badly in rvr right now.

 

[Culanan]

All im saying is that your rangers arent half as usefull in defending the realm as your support char or whatever main you have... and that is one of the reasons why hib suck arse atm.. we are _underpopulated_

The kind of problem you talk of is one where players have a ranger as main, I think many players with a lvl 50 rvr active ranger also have support alts (myself included) and will log whatever toon is needed.

I play VW for fg rvr and ranger for when I'm bored of that, what you are seeing is players trying out their pl'd or old rangers (mines over a year old but hadn't bothered lvling him to 50 until this summer) in the NF, a fad for the moment except for the hardcore stealthers.

 

[Spamb0t]

Ranger4ever!

 

[Culanan]

Ranger4ever!

HArdCorE!

 

[Kokelimonkelmedisin]

A thing to cosider allso is that this patch pf buffs got a boost
so non BB folks might be trying ranger out for that very reason.

 

[censi]

cynical censi hates all the people that rolled rangers in preparation for NF. It is FOTM'ers a lot.

But new uber balanced of mind and soul censi doesnt really give a fook. Its natural for peeps to pick whats good tbh, thats why i rolled my ranger in the first place!! I just guessed wrong though!

The worrying thing is you get pin cussioned after you open on someone nowadays.

all fun though

 

[Culanan]

cynical censi hates all the people that rolled rangers in preparation for NF. It is FOTM'ers a lot.

But new uber balanced of mind and soul censi doesnt really give a fook. Its natural for peeps to pick whats good tbh, thats why i rolled my ranger in the first place!! I just guessed wrong though!

The worrying thing is you get pin cussioned after you open on someone nowadays.

all fun though

I can just see it now:
"FOR HIBERNI.. <thunk> AGGH <thunk> AAAAGH<thunk>...ffs.../release"

 

[Gear]

My volley got nerfed

But MoS 5 rocks

To the thread starter:
Well, I also had problem with fotm rangers, but that was in OF where in order to get a nice camp spot to solo you litterally had to walk for about 30 mins stealthed (hello people at sauvage!)

Now, with milegates down, and the upcoming changes where there'll be no teleport, I have no problem what so ever with them. I also have all the artis and items I need anyway, so inflation caused due to high demand doesn't really affect me at all.

However, I also tent to believe that FOTM rangers will slowly die away, same thing will happen to fotm scouts and hunters. Reason for that? They can't compete proplerly. Now don't take it personal, but most don't even know how to play those toons. They have absolutely no idea when to crit, nor even how that works, under what conditions etc. Most of the artis they use are lvl 0-3, yes they do have nice looks but they miss all the essence. Anyway, lots of reasons, I'm not going to number them here, but you'll definitelly see the numbers going down as soon as the hype wears out. If however some of those people come to re-identify themselves as a stealther and really think of their toons and their playstyle, then I'm sure they'll be a nice addition to the game.

 

[Thanatlos]

Just remove penetrating arrow and i'll be happy

Such a silly unnecessary skill

 

[Tigersans]

I agree with soulbow i could not get grp with my tank at all post TOA pre NF so did a NS solod him to 50 was a long long slow climb as dont know anyone to give me a PL ;-(,

Now with no BB i realise my NS is hard to play as melee un buffed is hard, so im doing a ranger at mo only BG1 fun and must admit it is fun. But if im going to be 50 will be another 4 months down the line for me i reckon..

 

[Spamb0t]

I agree with soulbow i could not get grp with my tank at all post TOA pre NF so did a NS solod him to 50 was a long long slow climb as dont know anyone to give me a PL ;-(,

Now with no BB i realise my NS is hard to play as melee un buffed is hard, so im doing a ranger at mo only BG1 fun and must admit it is fun. But if im going to be 50 will be another 4 months down the line for me i reckon..

ranger is even worse then ns unbuffed ;-D

 

[Kokelimonkelmedisin]

ranger is even worse then ns unbuffed ;-D

why do I doubt that? ^^

alltho I dont think its recomended playing anything unbuffed in daoc nowdays ^^

 

[Culanan]

why do I doubt that? ^^

alltho I dont think its recomended playing anything unbuffed in daoc nowdays ^^

Overall NS has better defense and better offense in melee than a ranger, excluding RF armour ofc.

Both have CD
NS has higher evade
NS has envenom
NS has higher growth rates on CS styles
NS has insta DD (not uber I know)

This is discounting RA's ofc (MoS, PD).

 

[Raven]

I rolled my ranger fo the challenge of getting it to 50, 22 days played at level 50, solo most of the way, a mini grp in TC with a friend was all the grouping i did, i also made it so that i didnt have to spend my play time stood at DL waiting for a group that was never going to happen, i grew bored of it pretty quickly as there wasnt all that many places to go as a solo rvr ranger. i think that has changed now though, with the frontier much more open and people all over there has never been a better time to play a solo stealther.

Dont look down on a class just because people choose to play it, maybe they gave up on their group chars because nobody wanted them in thier groups, now all of a sudden you find you do need them, they arent around, tough luck.

 

[Kokelimonkelmedisin]

Overall NS has better defense and better offense in melee than a ranger, excluding RF armour ofc.

Both have CD
NS has higher evade
NS has envenom
NS has higher growth rates on CS styles
NS has insta DD (not uber I know)

This is discounting RA's ofc (MoS, PD).

(you forgot IP)


well this is realy dumb to discuss but anyhow, if you are unbuffed you deffinatly want to do as little mele
as possible. The ranger got this patch the same delve on their pf buffs as the druid ones
so if you spec high bow, use zephyr and pf buffs Id say you have a better
chanse as an unbuffed ranger compared to an unbuffed ns.

 

[Tigersans]

"ranger is even worse then ns unbuffed ;-D"


Aye but i read that a sniper ranger specced bow and PF will be crap at melee but does not need a BB and if you get plus TOA bonus's on ur template u will be capped on ur buffs ie just as good as druid buffs and you will be good at range attacks

However melee will be crap as no points to spec in it still at least im semi buffed better than unbuffed NS

 

[Astoxos]

"ranger is even worse then ns unbuffed ;-D"


Aye but i read that a sniper ranger specced bow and PF will be crap at melee but does not need a BB and if you get plus TOA bonus's on ur template u will be capped on ur buffs ie just as good as druid buffs and you will be good at range attacks

However melee will be crap as no points to spec in it still at least im semi buffed better than unbuffed NS

with this spec the ns will get more kills than u not a chance u survive with that kind of spec...it will look like Crit shoot,shoot,shoot attacked sprint /release tbh u CANT avoid most of the melee fights.

 

[Kaun_IA]

rangers are good not bad ))



Dunno why ppl think thy are bad

 

[Durrell]

Been leveling my ranger Durrell on and off for 2.5 yrs.

Have a 50 druid and a 49 Animist

Love my ranger always have always will no matter what nerfs come and go.

The character you play is up to you and should be for fun regardless.

I cant kill all enemys with one shot or even 5 but i still love the challenge of finding an enemy to kill.

Solo i crit x 2 and if they still have 80% health i run like the cowardly elf I am and find another target.

I have played this game from day 1 for 1 reason only and that is for fun and to wind down from work.

I have always invited any class to my group so we can have a laugh and thats it so any of you regardless of spec or class look me up and come chill.

Boni /respect m8 and all you others that have helped me over the years
Hib for ever even when im the last one here

 

[Kiiz]

if you got 163 k and 45 days of playtime,you are considered as an idiot amongst l33t players (ask : gecki )

%90 of excalibur/hibernia thinks that rangers are designed for pvp,not pve

wrong.

yey im l33t and im back btw..real me..fu all im l33t .. he said it :touch:

 

[Spamb0t]

yey im l33t and im back btw..real me..fu all im l33t .. he said it :touch:

why the fuck do u wear sunglasses inside.

 

[Mastade]

wow... out of top 20 lwrp rangers today: 26/11-04 - there is like one with more than 600k rps all in all.. Kaor.. lol - well respect to Kaor for sticking to his char ;x

29 out of the 100 lwrp chars in hib who earned the most rps.. are rangers.. almost 1/3 xD

imagine those players actually playing their "grp friendly" char which most of them already have. Looks like we then could be equal with the albs and mids doing rvr!!1

 

[Spamb0t]

wow... out of top 20 lwrp rangers today: 26/11-04 - there is like one with more than 600k rps all in all.. Kaor.. lol - well respect to Kaor for sticking to his char ;x

:worthy:

 

[Gray-CF]

wow... out of top 20 lwrp rangers today: 26/11-04 - there is like one with more than 600k rps all in all.. Kaor.. lol - well respect to Kaor for sticking to his char ;x

29 out of the 100 lwrp chars in hib who earned the most rps.. are rangers.. almost 1/3 xD

imagine those players actually playing their "grp friendly" char which most of them already have. Looks like we then could be equal with the albs and mids doing rvr!!1

lol i must have my brain wired dif to everyone else - i played my ranger loads before NF - now its here im playing my warden more! loving them both tbh but i feel warden more use at the mo as not so many about

 

[Thanatlos]

that's because wardens just plain rock and people are afraid to play them!

 

[Gray-CF]

Aye im loving it at the mo

and im also semi gimped still due to not all level 10 artis

TWF3 is my friend!

 

[Kiiz]

why the fuck do u wear sunglasses inside.

cause im l3t3t. l33t ppl wear sunglasses inside..i saw it on MTV :touch: