RP Farming

[Matinex]

cloak_endagger a.k.a Forrest, now you are telling me that u tried to fool me? then why did you ask if you can duel? why did you ask if it was ok with 2 on 1 ? why did you duel first of all? I did not say Cadwyr said sorry but other ppl who came there and ruined the fun did so, you and him must have been the only ones. Sorry if you dont like it, i will know next time. I love it, ebcause its something different, and its my way of having fun. I payed for the game and i dont consider this cheating. Go ahead try to stop all the people who are dueling.

Btw to all you guys that is posting here that it is wrong, maybe you want to check with your own guild members and see what they think about it? i wont mention any names but i know alot of ppl were there.

Btw cloak_endagger (forrest) i can imagine why you dont like dueling, its just because you have no chance @ your level (think it was 30 or smth?) to duel, and no1 wants to even spend their time on you.

Get a little bit more experience about the game and then come telling us what not to do. At your level you havent even been in 30% of the places in this game, i been everywhere, thats why i want something different, understand?

 

[old.Alderian]

Giv itam ?

 

[old.Shade]

Bah duels is not rpfarming its not like any1 just stands there allowing him/herself to be killed!

some1 beckons u u beckon back to accept so both players are in on it. and since u will not beckon back if u dont hink u can win its most likely an even match and fun fer both.

Even if players die if they duel some1 will most likely only get rp once since its on a 20 min timer.

imo u will gain loads more rp just going around emain killing randomly.


Dont understand why ppl can call something like that rpfarming.

 

[Cloak_]

FYI Matinex,, my alt is near lvl 50 and my bard conned what? blue to u? (at lvl 40 that is ) and im sure have dammed seen the same amount of this game as U AND experienced more of it due to mutliple high lvl chars,, so get ur facts straight b4 accusing m'kay...

As for the reason I joined in,, well rhymes left and dontcha think its wudve arroused suspicion if I didnt rez? and how else to get invited into the chat group

So yes id say U was fooled

And btw id own ur ass netime if I cud,, Ne class without casting or dd`s a bard can own,, ask Miss..

BTW Matty U aint hard to fool

O yea the 2 on 1 wudve been V there only rezzer therefore stopping alot of duels so start thinking b4 U type and mebbe ud see sence in what I was doing..

And Elyne,, U just proved it went on ALOT longer than I thought,, since it was going for near an hour b4 I got there,,

Cmon Mat,, Y tell ppl NOT to tell others? surly if its ok for U its ok for every1?

Was funny seeing Huma own ur ass though did u hit him

 

[Tank Init]

ok lets all go to emain and just duel all day 24/7 after all thats what it seem ppl want now lets take the random factor out of the game.

matty the pratty calling forrest a noob lol he's got 2 chars over level 40 and forrest is a alt how many u got ?

so let do it everyone no more rvring let just all meet at the alb wall and duel all day.

and a tip to mat dont use a large shield in a 1 on 1 lol it a waste of time but being a simple farmer u probley didnt know that

 

[Cloak_]

To all those farming at lusus last nite:

Make a new guild,, call it *Old Macdonalds* since u all farmers

 

[tilde]

haha, this really prove what Excalibur is for crappy server! how can u farm rps when u dont kill each-other?

 

[Cloak_]

They where killing each other while i was..

 

[old.Machi]

I can't really blame people for wanting to duel atm to be honest. All the skill has been taken out of the game. Its turned into a case of zerg 1 brings 20 of his mates to kill you, so zerg 2 comes back with 30 of his mates to kill them, then zerg 1 brings 100...

:sleeping: :sleeping: :sleeping:


Maybe soon people will realise that those kind of tactics don't give good rp.

I didn't dual anyone, but I had great fun rvring with the mids (at their wall) later on. Was some nice skill on both sides : /respect


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Machiavelli


*Na Fianna* Hibernia , Excalibur.

 

[old.Niljindil]

Originally posted by ElDiablo


As you say its a game, dont take it too seriously play it without using lame tactis to get some RP that will make you superior in a game. This is just a game grow up, stop farming RP that ruins the fun for loads of others trying to get the RP in a way it was intended to.

Lol, so you mean that when i hit realm rank 5 from dueling 24/7 in 5 months and have a stunning amount of 3% more variance i have a and i quite "superior" advantage.

get a grip m8

Edit: NO, i wont do that, it was an example.

 

[old.Niljindil]

To all of you saying its just a game and dont get an advantage.

Im having fun, and i wont let you stop me.

Edit: Btw xuthos, we must do that staff to staff duel sometime again when im 50.

The battle of "pbt vs quickcast heal", wonder who will win ;D

 

[old.LandShark]

Duelling and farming are not the same. Even if you think these people are RP farming, so what? You can look at their R4Lx and your R2 and think "i earned mine fairly" if it helps your ego....

 

[old.Arya]

I don't care if you call it RPS farming or not I like it and will do it again. It is fun for me. And I don't let me tell how to play a game by a bunch of whiners. There is more in a game than xp xp xp xp , RPS RPS RPS. If you only have fun with numbers go and play with a calculator. ^^

 

[Matinex]

@ Cloakndagger and yingyang, why dont you post your real names in game? Cloak i still got the logs when u asked if u could duel, dont come with lame excuses. Sorry if you really wanted to kill their healer why didnt you do it? after all you had rhymes on your side? or? im not sure whta you are talking about really, first you want to duel and when you realize you have absoluteny NO CHANCE against a blue con middie (not even with 2 guys on him, rofl ) then you say its rp farming and we should stop it? well that makes sense, alot!

Its like i said before, if u cant kill anyone, you will be against it.

Btw maybe i explained it wrong, but it has nothing to do with levels really, i am bored of this game in many ways, ill do whatever i want, why the hell do i have to explain it for you anyways?

And yes im sorry that some idiot invited you to the "event" and i told you NOT to tell anyone because there are morons like you/yingyang that will come and ruin the fun for everyone else. Yes ppl might have other interests.

Grow up and let ppl do what they want, i dont consider this cheating. I consider you guys who are against this idiots because you cant understand what other ppl think it is fun.

Please post your real name/level, i really doubt that you are 50, because 49-50 is a BIIIIIG difference, at 50 you get a whole new view of the game.

Yingyang is this "tank" ? who traded the impaler with me?

Just post your names so i can make sure not to group with you, or ever call you for any events anymore.

 

[old.Cadwyr]

Nope he isn't, Btw I think Ying Yang is an Alb. I started this thread and haven't posted since. Kind of said what I wanted to say up to now. Having read the thread to date, just gonna post a few observations.

I can understand why ppl want to see how they will manage in 1v1 situations etc, however many classes would suck in pure 1v1.

Alot of ppl claim this can't possibly be farming because nobody died only a few by accident. Humm this sounds difficult, esp when some spells/weaps can hit a buffed player for 1/4 of his total hp.

Alot of ppl saying they would get more rp in rvr. Ok well regualr rvr rp varies alot, 1 hour in emain during prime time in a full grp of 8, I'd be happy with 2.5-3k rp. U can easily get alot less (as a hib). Run to emain, mez, root zerg, /release etc. But in a 1v1 fight ungrouped the winner could get 900+ rp. Nobody is gonna duel rez sick, so there will always be rp in it, yes I know there is a timer and if the other guy has had a recent death it wont be the total poss rp. However, imo u could still earn alot of rp in this way.

Ppl being bored @ level 50, yes can kind of understand this too. Imo ppl expect too much from lev 50.

To go over what happened, I was on the frontier when Forrest joined a small grp I was with. He said a number of Mids/Hibs were farming rp at Lusus. I was more interested in heading to emain for regluar rvr. After checking out the usual emain spots we had just killed a small grp at Mid wall, decided to check out Lusus. Saw what I thought was a small grp there, decided to wade in a kill a few invaders. On getting there I noticed how big the grp was, at least 3 Hibs 3 Albs and like 6-7 Mids. Im usre there was more but that is all I saw. I was only there long enough to kill 2 b4 getting ganked down.

So was I lame? No I wasn't, I play the game the way it was designed to be played. That's full screen, no 3rd party proggies, no fucking irc.

Alot of ppl saying I like it, I just want to have fun play the game how I want to play it etc. Well ur grown up's (most of u anyway), go ahead. Tilde commented that he thinks this isn't classed as farming on the US servers too.. Well I dunno about that. It certainly isn't encouraged is it? If it was Mythic would have bought out some kind of dueling feature in the game. Anyway I think wat really pissed me off about this and what prompted me to start the thread was the sheer number of ppl involved there. I was told later, after the event there was 30 ppl there. If this was to gain popularty and become common practice, emain would be deserted and rvr would be reduced to dueling parties. Something seroiusly wrong there.

I don't regret what I did one bit, 2 guys meet in a small rvr skirmish, /beckon /bow, duel whatever that's fine imo. But thats a word apart from 30 odd ppl from 3 diffrent realms taking it in turns to duel, in what was clearly an organised event.

I personally think Irc is at the root of alot of what is wrong on this server. X realm account swapping, X realm spying, and X realm organised events. It should not be happening.

Well that's it, I'm done with this thread. I've said my bit. I'm sure alot of ppl wont agree with wut I have said, personally I don't give a fuck. I'm 33 years old and been around this kind of game for along time. If u want to carry on with ur organised events go ahead. Just don't get too pissed off if I arrive to play the game the way it's designed to be played.

 

[Matinex]

Well said cadwyr, you said some good stuff wich i haev to agree with you on. But there is some other things i have to disagree on, first of all (if i understand it correct) you think we are doing it for the RP's wich is wrong, i am not doing it for rps, i would do it even if i lost rps, believe me. After all you should know about this one, dueling is a fair game, u take on your opponent 1 on 1, its VERY fair (Except that the albs cheated this time and used baldeturn), and since we/cadwyr/hibs are often zerged by 100 albs we got not many chances really, thats 1 reason why i want to fight a "fair" fight.

And sure cadwyr, as you said it, we pay for the game, and you do exactly what you want to, no1 can stop you. Same goes for me then? I dont mind at all if you come in and "try" to ruin my fun, but i wont let you know when such things happen again, easy.

I pay for the game, i do what i want, stop me in anyway you like, i still do what i want.

 

[old.Niljindil]

And to all you "this was an organised event".

It was me, matinex and a warden(wont mention his name unless he wants to). And we met up with 3! middies.

Then some other ppl logged in, found us etc, and we were(i think) 40 at most.

out of all those 34 if my math is correct I only ever saw 3 ppl complaining about it, and only 2 were against it from when the start.

This was *not* a planned "30 ppl meet up and farm away".

It was kithara and matinex wanting to duel, i actually just met up with mati as i logged in.

so dont some here blaming someone for something they didnt do, its not our fault other ppl wanted to join in, and i really cant see why they wouldnt. Theres a reason there will be a PvP server you know, its called "by popular demand".

 

[old.Pempula]

Sure dueling is happening, that is a fact. Do it if you want to, I dont really care, as I don't really mind talking the football World Cup in-game either... But some people may think that this takes the game even further and further away from the RPG experience it should in some degree provide (I wish...).

The 3 realms are supposedly in war? Now, if someone happens to run into 'a duel' and starts attacking the invader (be it hib, alb or mid), he can not really be blamed either for attacking the enemy, can he? He is definitely not doing anything wrong now, and most certainly he DOES NOT deserve to be flamed and told 'F*** OFF', etc. by his realm mates! If you have to have a 'secret dueling society' in DaoC at least try to have the duels somewhere where you can't be found so easily (=not in front of a tele keep or anywhere near 'the bowl' in Emain) and place guards to keep an eye out for outsiders (to quickly change location/hide if outsiders happen to come sniffing around...).

I know some kind of 'dueling arena' could be coded into the game (e.g. into which only an equal/close number of players from any realm could enter and no RPs would be given), but as long as it isn't in the game (and I doubt it ever will, as there is also the PvP server in testing) the duelers are 'the offenders' and as such should take the flames themselves.

I just wish the stealthers of all realms would try to take advantage of the duels and seek the locations out and try to take out any invaders worn out by duels and especially the rezzers (=really farm RPs...)... Im sure if someone just gave it 'a little push' any dueling loc would turn into a real mayhem quite swiftly.

 

[old.Vendetta]

Aye a duelling arena with a floor of nice pink pansies and and hedged with yellow forget me nots, oh and call it Trammel

deja vu

 

[old.Music]

weee nice

quickly goes out and lvl ranger - this will be easy rps for sure (if i find the duel spots)

 

[Cloak_]

I dont post as my in-game name coz it was already taken

Sure u got logs of me askin to 2 on 1 duel thier only healer, i aint denying that i wanted to kill him since it wud stop most duels till a rezzer came back..

And erm,, blue con middie? wtf planet are u on,, uve already stated u thought i was lvl 30,, so blue con to u wudve been what? red to me?

Noone invited me to the *event* I learned of it through various reasons, then u being thick enuf to msg my group for a rez rofl

Neva sed i was lvl 49 or even 50 neway,, and no there is no BIG difference in the view of the game at all, mebbe at my lvl it takes more skill

Sure go do what u want, if its against the rules I will be there trying to stop it

Mebbe I get my fun stopping u lamers,, but u want me to stop my fun

U know who we are matty and we are watching u

 

[Flimgoblin]

Mythics position on duels was:

Duel if you want to.
If someone else comes along and kills everyone then tough.

(but couched in a slightly nicer way)

 

[tilde]

I still dont understand why some ppl think duels involves RP-farming if u dont kill eachother?

Im a paladin, me and the friar are the worse class on RP-gaining - we got no ranged wpns. Still, i'll be useful in a group just like Friars are. Atm i got 167k and havent been active since almost a week now (playing alt, waiting for patch, getting tan etc )

Sure, it happends from time to time that ppl dies at duels coz of it's not very frequently "close combats" (where u cant decide who has the upper hand and need to go through the whole battle tho salute a winner). And if i duel one and beat him, he'll get healed and rest for a while. Lets say that he fights 4-5more duels before he dies? Hell, that leaves me to split his approx 900rps with 5other dudes, who results in a profit of 150-200rp for me. Call it farming? nah... Farming is when (i.e) hibs are camping albs wall and we're attacking and retreating- thats not literally farming BUT u gain a hell of a lot more rps by that compared to duels.


Lemme give u an advice for gaining rps, as i said im one of the (literally spoken) crappiest class as his performance in RvR - check vn-boards if u like and see the pallies whine, sure we do OK in duels, but only those who are looong (coz of our healing-chant). I can beat a lvl50 warrior or lvl50 hero who's using s/s coz of lower dmgoutput- but if he uses 2h or spear? well, then im kinda screwed. So, get a GOOD collection of players in 1group - stick together all the time, learn to cooperative with eachother and see the RPS KEEEPS ROOOOLLIN IN! <- That's farming, but not as bad considered as duel-farming is.

Life as a tank in even battles usually looks like this: rush-mezzed-see ur m8's get killed or beaten-get stunned-get beaten-get killed and then rezzed- over and over again. So if u havent tried duels u may wanna try it or atleast RESPECT it because its not that high rate of rp-farming, sure u gain some but u gain lot more with a good group.

Well, thats my (hopefully) last post in this thread and please share ur opinions and thoughts if u agree or not

Sincerely

 

[old.ElDiablo]

Originally posted by Niljindil


Lol, so you mean that when i hit realm rank 5 from dueling 24/7 in 5 months and have a stunning amount of 3% more variance i have a and i quite "superior" advantage.

get a grip m8

Edit: NO, i wont do that, it was an example.

Yes, It will hardly take 5 months as a matter of fact it will probably be much faster, and btw Im sick of people dueling instead of helping for example us at the AMG (that is if ur an alb) . Ok random duels are ok but organized =the lose imo.

 

[old.Niljindil]

Organised? 3 vs 3