Rough CPMRAL divisional drafts

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Sar

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Rough divisional drafts

As there's only 5 spaces left to fill I thought sod it, I'll see how many clans I can place into their rough divisions and see how things go. This thread is your opportunity to let me know if you think you should be elsewhere than where I have you placed initially so I can organise divisions as best as possible asap.

I'm using Division 4 mainly for the new clans and those I can find no previous results etc for:

Div 1
anarch3 ( a3)
BlackHaiL ( HaiL)
exclamation ( [!])
gX ( gX)
MonSieuR ( *MsR*)
Massive Killing Capacity ( MKC)
Phoenix Rising ( PR^)
<free>

Div 2
[+]Lords ( +)
Bad Habit ( [BaH])
BunK ( *BunK*)
Insane ( =][=)
SatansArse ( =]SA[=)
! Ground*Zero ! ( >G*0<)
Tortured Souls ( TS)
<free>

Div 3
clan Arse Kickers ( )
*iZm ( *iZm)
Korventenn Brezhon ( KB)
Malignity ( Malignity`)
plouc ( *:E*)
Unpure ( pk3)
<free>
<free>

Div 4
Crash The System ( CTS)
#!shebang ( #!)
Off the Richter Scale ( oRs)
Sherbet Overdose ( sod)
Swedish Crowns ( seC)
Rien A Foutre ( RAF)
Another Section ( aNs)
<free>


So let me know your thoughts, and be aware that as the final 5 places get filled then some teams will be shunted about anyway.

Flame away! ;)

:D
 
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old.Kapiter

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:p

first I can say I am flattered to see MsR in div1, we'll try to honor this rank :)

I will only comment on some french teams, which I know the best. It is just a kind of "external evaluation" that even those clans can contest, I am just trying to give some hints to Sar :)

- BunK are our beloved foolish RAers of the french Q3 scene. But they recently lost their best players, and since then have very huge "level" problems. Probably their charismatic leader Oued would confirm that but a lower ddivision will perhaps be funnier for them and their opponents.

- [+] are a regular old team, with solid experience they can fit their division.

- :E have a goold level especially in CPMA, they could easily switch with BunK

- RAF have very skilled players like Woz or fun0, and they beat last week clan KB you ranked in higher division. I think RAF deserve better than div4. Div3, or even div2

- #! is like RAF, div4 is quite too low for them. div3 seems a minimum.

GL Sar :)
 
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Sar

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Cheers Kap :D

Any recommendations for team placement will be taken into consideration, because I want the divisions to be as fair and as enjoyable as possible for everyone.
 
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old.[gX.POrN]

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chuffed

Pleased to see our hard work and recruitment has placed us in the top. One team worth mentioning is cts, a close knit university clan, they do well and could benefit from being further up the div's then div4.

btw Sar, it's usually the clans being impatient for the organisers to start leagues, yay we got a dedicated-impatient-wants to get things started type admin, hehe good to see we got the right man on the job. :)
 
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old.piero

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:eek:F

I second Kapiter, we at BunK will be happier in a division lower than div2 :) . Yet I hope - and think - we will improve with time because we have a few fast-learning newbs who still haven't reached their full potential :)

BTW Kap you forgot Unpure, they certainly can play higher than div3 IMO. Well at least I can't see pk3, :E and RAF below us in the league :)

GL Sar, I suppose setting up divs isn't easy :)
 
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old.Poil

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KB

Hi
I m the leader of KB ...
We have the level of aNs / RAF / :E
But not the level of unpure :]

That s all :)
 
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old.Poil

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KB / Poil

And we won vs SatansArse 12/5 (last war play on ra3)
 
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Sar

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Ok 2 spaces left, and I've had 2 clans mail me direct to sign up for those two places, so if they don't get signed up via the website before someone else does then they won't make it in.

The clans in question are pH and sXr. So get moving guys otherwise you'll lose out on those spaces!

So when they get properly signed up to the league that will be the 32 spots filled - I have rearranged divisions based on them getting in on time, and this is what I came up with:

Div 1
anarch3 ( a3)
exclamation ( [!])
X3
MonSieuR ( *MsR*)
BX
Phoenix Rising ( PR^)
sXr
Unpure ( pk3)

Div 2
[+]Lords ( +)
Tortured Souls ( TS)
Rien A Foutre ( RAF)
Insane ( =][=)
Massive Killing Capacity ( MKC)
gX ( gX)
pH
BlackHaiL ( HaiL)

Div 3
clan Arse Kickers ( )
*iZm ( *iZm)
Korventenn Brezhon ( KB)
Crash The System ( CTS)
! Ground*Zero ! ( >G*0< )
#!shebang ( #!)
Fr.H
plouc ( *:E*)

Div 4
Off the Richter Scale ( oRs)
Sherbet Overdose ( sod)
Swedish Crowns ( seC)
Another Section ( aNs)
SatansArse ( =]SA[=)
Bad Habit ( [BaH])
BunK ( *BunK*)
Malignity ( Malignity`)


One notable move is Bunk from 2 to 4, but I feel as they are trying to rebuild atm with new players (confessed newbies :) ), then a season at least in a lower division may well benefit them as a side. I speak here from experience with my former TDM side, and know how much it can help when undergoing a change in side.

Unpure I've moved to Div 1, as I've been looking up their recent clanbase results as well as friendlies, and they look like they can live with the sides at the top fairly comfortably.

I hadn't looked at Clanbase this morning before drawing up those initial divisions - my works net connex doesn't permit access to the site. Gah. So I've been looking up results for various clans on there from the last 3-4 months to check up on recent form for those I could find who had been competing in recent CB cups etc.

The amount of teams that were of the same level in quality was untrue, and some decisions were very tough to make, but it's just a case of biting the bullet and getting on with it and making the choice to put team A in Div 2 and Team B in Div 1, even though there's little between them really.

Again these ARE NOT the final divisions, so again feel free to offer suggestions etc, because as I said before I want this season to be enjoyable for people as much as possible, and don't want to see clans getting buttraped every week because of a misplacement.

So fire away peeps, thoughts?
 
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old.sansai

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Considering latest results of BunK (clanbase and ra3frl in particular) I think they will be happy with a low division by the time they rebuild themselves, so this is a good choice imo. They've been losing badly their latest matches and might lose pleasure and motivation if it went on ;[
*bisous*

#!shebang (although I didn't ask my partners about it yet :x) would certainly have been ok with div4, but div3 will do aswell since we have some decent players, cheers kap. :)

Everything else seems more or less ok to me, at least concerning the french clans, though I'd have made the divisions with a pre-season cup, but well nm :)

I don't know much from the UK clans involved in here, and I'd like to know what happened to X, [D] and FURY ? Weren't they supposed to play cpma pm 0 only from now on, or did they give up anything barrysworld if not everything RA3 related ? :)

If they do not show up in this league it'll be a big loss (3 potential Div1 clan imo :|)
 
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old.Kapiter

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hey!

yes what about a preseason cup ? always fun :)
 
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Sar

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X "seemed" to have left UK RA3 completely :/

Fury have actually split/closed down their ra3/cpma squad, so they won't be entering any more leagues in ra3.

No idea what happened to [D] tbh.

Plenty of good sides in there as it is, so things should be fun and interesting regardless. :)

Pre-season cup would only delay the start of the season further, and I want to get us underway before the end of April, after I've had a fortnights holiday somewhere sunny first ;)

I'll do up another slightly amended draft tomorrow, I know CTS would like moved up to 2 or maybe 1, which is easily done atm, and I'm thinking of moving my own clan PR^ down a div as well, as we've not practiced any CPMA lately :p

sXr have now signed up properly, leaving that 1 space which pH had put dibs on, so hurry up Venom et al and get yourselves in there, because the next clan to sign up via the webby gets the space!
 
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Sar

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Actually Brother have just signed up via the website, so they get the final spot in the league - We are now full! :)

Clans should still sign up anyway in case there are drop outs pre-season.

So the "amended" divisions as I see them atm stand as this:

Div 1
anarch3 ( a3)
exclamation ( [!])
X3
MonSieuR ( *MsR*)
BX
Crash The System ( CTS)
sXr
Unpure ( pk3)

Div 2
[+]Lords ( +)
Tortured Souls ( TS)
Rien A Foutre ( RAF)
Insane ( =][=)
Massive Killing Capacity ( MKC)
gX ( gX)
Phoenix Rising ( PR^)
BlackHaiL ( HaiL)

Div 3
clan Arse Kickers ( )
*iZm ( *iZm)
Korventenn Brezhon ( KB)
Brotherhood of Darkness ( BroTheR)
! Ground*Zero ! ( >G*0< )
#!shebang ( #!)
Fragheads Fr.H
plouc ( *:E*)

Div 4
Off the Richter Scale ( oRs)
Sherbet Overdose ( sod)
Swedish Crowns ( seC)
Another Section ( aNs)
SatansArse ( =]SA[=)
Bad Habit ( [BaH])
BunK ( *BunK*)
Malignity ( Malignity`)

[Jimmy Saville]Now then, now then. 'ow's about that then?[/Jimmy Saville]
 
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Sar

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BTW: I will close sign ups completely at the weekend, so if you want to be on the pending list then sign up within the next 3 days or you'll be waiting until next season!

:)
 
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old.Clem

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Unpure -> div2

Sar, thx to think we can be in div1, but if u see our results in last CB CUP, u can see we have the skill rather for div2.

I think we'll have hard problems to win a match in div1, and we'll be less stressed in div2 with clans with approximatively our skill :)

blah !
 
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old.Kapiter

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btw

I am quite surprised to see that Defiance is missing, I thought they weren't in bwra3l because they are now cpma addicted...

too bad, we like to play against them, always fast and furious games :)
 
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old.dred

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hi sar :O

think malignity should be a couple of divisions higher. I realise we are new and actually i dont think any of us have played the mod much before and Ive no idea about the skill levels here tbh, but we are a mix of players from div1tdm sides (DC, ir and gzd) so id imagine div4 is a bit of a pessimistic estimate of our skills.

We will be playing as a team at i10, so use that as a gauge of our worthiness if you like.
 
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Sar

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Lo Dredbeast :D

I won't be at i10 :)

And from your own admission you've not played the mod before, and you're a new side, so I think Div 4 should suit ya for your first season together at least, let you work on your teamplay if nothing else. I know you're decent players individually, but that doesn't automatically make you a good CPMA RA3 side though :)

And anyway, just cos it's div 4 doesn't mean the teams there are shite, far from it, they're pretty damn good. Just shows the quality of sides throughout the whole league imo :)


Clem - duly noted:



Div 1
anarch3 ( a3)
exclamation ( [!])
X3
MonSieuR ( *MsR*)
BX
Crash The System ( CTS)
sXr
gX ( gX)


Div 2
[+]Lords ( +)
Tortured Souls ( TS)
Rien A Foutre ( RAF)
Insane ( =][=)
Massive Killing Capacity ( MKC)
Unpure ( pk3)
Phoenix Rising ( PR^)
BlackHaiL ( HaiL)

Div 3
clan Arse Kickers ( )
*iZm ( *iZm)
Korventenn Brezhon ( KB)
Brotherhood of Darkness ( BroTheR)
! Ground*Zero ! ( >G*0< )
#!shebang ( #!)
Fragheads Fr.H
plouc ( *:E*)

Div 4
Off the Richter Scale ( oRs)
Sherbet Overdose ( sod)
Swedish Crowns ( seC)
Another Section ( aNs)
SatansArse ( =]SA[=)
Bad Habit ( [BaH])
BunK ( *BunK*)
Malignity ( Malignity`)
 
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old.Kapiter

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:)

right, I remember the UK team Dr playing in div1 bwtdm coming in div2 bwra3l and being badly raped, just because ra3 is really not tdm, they obviously were not used to play like this.

but DC, ir, gzd... only high quality here :) Teamplay is coming fast and they have the skill, I bet they will quickly kick some asses. div4 will be a piece of cake for them imho.


seC is a swedish team, I played them in savage CTF and they were quite ok.
 
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Sar

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I refuse to put a side who:

1) Have yet to get more than 4 players

2) Haven't really played the mod

3) Haven't even practiced together yet

into a div higher than 4.

What if they can't get a 5th player before the season kicks off? What if they hardly practice, or don't practice at all pre-season? Plus I've lost count of the amount of so called "superstar" teams that have folded after a few games.

For these reasons I do not feel comfortable placing Malignity in a div based on "potential" or "arrogance" to put a different spin on it.

I'll look at their performances throughout this first season and see how things sit before we kick off a 2nd season.

But let's be reasonable here: Not a full match team (never mind a squad), no practices, and largely unfamiliar with and unpracticed in the mod and you want placed in Div 1?

Sorry but no. Div 4 for this first season, then we'll see how things go. :)
 
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old.sansai

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yeah

couldn't agree more. When I was with BunK in div2 we winned easily vs Dr. on map4 (something like 11-1 maybe ?) and I was just astonished when I learned they were a div1 tdm clan. I really thought RA3 was a newb game :eek:

Anyways, jokes appart, a team really has to prove something before they be placed in higher divisions, at least in trains. I have seen good dm players beeing less good in RA3, and vice versa, these are simply different games (and thus different kinds of teamplays).

You may have an easy (most likely) season but you can't expect to be considered as a good clan without having even showed it in RA3, and you have to prove your involvement too.
I know some DM teams who play ra3 for some unkown reason, as they keep on saying it's a n00b game, and they keep on defaulting half if not most of their games although league admins always place them (still for unknown reasons) in the higher divisions of their leagues. :x
 
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old.Kapiter

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bah

we'll see :) sar point is understandable, as I can understand that highly skilled players wish to be in higher div, but at the end it is the admin to choose :)
and in bwra3l, some very good teams like exclamation started in div4 without moaning, owning div4, div3, div2 to be now in div1 :)
 
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Sar

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Oh and playing on lan is a tad different to online competitions.

I own on lan, but I aer teh shite online ;)
 
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old.dred

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mm ok points taken, not gonna argue.

My post wasnt made in arrogance tho. I dont think its unreasonable to assume we'll be a little better than div4 standard, but like i say i dont have any idea of the skills here really, so ill shut up and we shall see how it goes...looking forward to it :).
 
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Nemesis*KR

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ph not in gah

fs i signed up on webby ;/

/me slaps SAR ;oP
 
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Sar

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Aye ya signed up in spot #33 ;)

Teaches ya to do stuff right first time then innit :D

Dred - :)
 
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raw.

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Any chance you could move us into div1 sar ? Jin askeed for div2 i think when applying, but we practice with most of those div1 clans fairly often.
 
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old.traumaskiy

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X3

Because we are not familiar with CPMA yet, I would prefere to see X3 in div2, we are regardless the rank, the point is to get the fun, and its not fun to get rapped all the time .. :eek:)

If its impossible ... lets get div1 so.

X3^Trauma
 
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Sar

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Eh?

Anyway, as regards Malignity, I'll move them into Div 2, but there's absolutely no way they'll be in Div 1 this season.

Div 1
anarch3 ( a3)
exclamation ( [!])
Insane ( =][=)
MonSieuR ( *MsR*)
BX
Crash The System ( CTS)
sXr
gX ( gX)

Div 2
[+]Lords ( +)
Malignity ( Malignity`)
Tortured Souls ( TS)
Rien A Foutre ( RAF)
Unpure ( pk3)
Phoenix Rising ( PR^)
BlackHaiL ( HaiL)
X3

Div 3
clan Arse Kickers ( )
*iZm ( *iZm)
Korventenn Brezhon ( KB)
Brotherhood of Darkness ( BroTheR)
! Ground*Zero ! ( >G*0< )
#!shebang ( #!)
plouc ( *:E*)
Massive Killing Capacity ( MKC)

Div 4
Off the Richter Scale ( oRs)
Sherbet Overdose ( sod)
Swedish Crowns ( seC)
Another Section ( aNs)
SatansArse ( =]SA[=)
Bad Habit ( [BaH])
BunK ( *BunK*)
Fragheads Fr.H

Changes - =][= to Div 1, switching with X3. Malignity to Div 2. MKC from Div 2 to Div 3 and FR.H from Div 3 to Div 4.
 
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