Right or Wrong?

Dorimor1

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I just want to know what you guys think of this convo. It's a guild whom have been following me for quite some time and /sending abuse etc, sarcastic comments, I am not really too bothered but I'd just like to get some opinions. The guy below has obviously been following me or watching me for quite some time.

Now I know most of you will hold biased opinions because I play a BD, but hopeful to some of the more mature gamers out here I can get a decent answer. To be honest, I find it a bit pathetic that people always send PMs (especially from that guild) about my BD and my title and whatever. I don't go around and sending abuse to all the RR10s, I just get on with it.

What confuses me is that I can't understand why people feel the need to PM me. I just find it bizarre that people care so much that I have a Bonedancer and title, that is when you know people are bitter. Not necesserily jelous, just bitter in some sort of way.



I can't be arsed editing it perfectly, and I've hidden the guys name.

Because of this, I'd just like to say that I don't care what other people think of my Bonedancer or my title. I pay my subs, I see it as an achievent, disregarding my opinion is stupid, because getting a title can never be defined as an achievement or not. It is different for different people. So, everyone who wishes to flame me now, in two days or however long into the future, just remember that whatever you say, you can never be right, because it's my opinion that counts regarding my own character and my own achievements.

Enough said, cya on the battlefield.
 

Jarod

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Report the player to RN and let them decide... and personally i would just put the person in /ignore and go on with my play and do whatever


been playing the "darkside" now for a few days now playing a RM called Qrowz and have even grouped with you and Aleven

Have to say i have changed attitude against you as a player :) (i still dont like BD's when playing as enemy) but have seen the "person" behind the BD a bit closer now and damn it looks like it's really a human being there :p


Asier - unbuffed Armsman (deleted, Rerolled)
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ian_heaps

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Bonedancer or not people should not be harrassing you ingame. Sorry to hear this mate.
 

Vandrakken

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Happened to me on a smaller scale a while back. Had some dickless wonder log out of his acc, create a new char on my realm called clapatzerger so he could PM me abuse about my BG char. Some people will go to great lengths to show they nothing short of being a wanker.
 

tehdom

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i'm pretty new to Daoc as a whole and my second toon rolled was a Bonedancer, not knowing much about any of the classes. ATM he resides in thid and i have great fun running him in thid so i dont think il be moving him for a while. I completely agree with you that its you that pays your subscription and the main point of any game is to have fun. I mean, it isnt as if a Bonedancer is Impossible to take down, considering how many times i have been mown down by ze zerg ! ! Just take solice in the fact that whoever that person is, he obviously has no life outside daoc, is probably some skinny geek that has no woman (and never will) and obviously seems to think that this blatant abuse is going to bother you.
As previously stated, report em if you feel strongly about it, otherwise continue having fun with your Bonedancer just as im going to !!!
 

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Dorimor1 said:
Because of this, I'd just like to say that I don't care what other people think of my Bonedancer or my title. I pay my subs, I see it as an achievent, disregarding my opinion is stupid, because getting a title can never be defined as an achievement or not. It is different for different people. So, everyone who wishes to flame me now, in two days or however long into the future, just remember that whatever you say, you can never be right, because it's my opinion that counts regarding my own character and my own achievements.

Philosophically you need to respect the fact that everyone else's opinion is equally as valid as your own, otherwise how can you ever expect anyone else to respect your opinion, quid pro quo?

That being said, harassment in any form is unforgivable, no-one has the right to subject another player to unwanted attention on a regular basis, but nothing in the quotes will get anything done from GOA as there is nothing overly derogatory in there (has to be said, you gave as good as you got ;)).

Your best bet is to just add them to your ignore list, if they start making new characters and exhaust your ignore list then you will have something concrete to take to right-now as proof along with ss's of pm's if you feel you need to go down this route.

As to why they do this without provocation, god-only knows. Probably some personal insecurity or inferiority complex that urges them to put down others to make themselves feel better.
 

Glenmorangie

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Lol, i know exactly who that was and you are making him so happy for coming here and whining about it :)

That guild isn't stalking you. Twice youve had contact with people from it. Its only 3 people playing in it. I know, because I had a laugh yesterday while you were yelling something about people camping APK, I laughed, you started PMing me, ending up with your standard reply, we are all bitter and jealous... Thats the first time you even talked to me or a guildie apart from you asking for buffs...

And this second time, well, I guess he wanted to have some fun, looking at the comments, Im sure he did ;) So far for "It's a guild whom have been following me for quite some time", thats just a load of bullshit :)

Also, seems you are initiating the PMs? Perhaps just shrug it off next time, instead of looking for a discussion. But something tells me you enjoy the attention ;)
 

Dorimor1

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Well mate, judging by peoples replies I think your in the wrong. Your guild has been making remarks like 'lol bane of alb bd how many people have you pwned today?'. At APK I said to the mids 'guys, you know you'll make the albs log if you camp? Just a suggestion'. You insulted me, so I PMed you asking why, you insult me again.

I feel people like you aren't worth it. If your guild is going to consistently stalk me and make remarks I'll just ignore you all together, depriving the attention you yourself crave.

If I am making him so happy that I 'whine' about it then fine. I think he should be happy that alot of people agree with me that he was being out of order.
 

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I would just put the person on /ignore, can´t be bothered myself to answer rhetorical questions from ppl that just wanna annoy me...
 

Dorimor1

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Tallen said:
Philosophically you need to respect the fact that everyone else's opinion is equally as valid as your own, otherwise how can you ever expect anyone else to respect your opinion, quid pro quo?

Not being harsh here mate but that is where you are wrong ;) I can listen to others opinions about how I view my achievements but in the end of the day if something is an achievement for me then no opinion can deny that. No one's opinion about me is as valid as my own, because I know my goals and I know my acheivements. Maybe about my personalitity yes, but not about that subject.
 

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tbh dori i dont mind u playing BD at all i consider u a challenge but most of the time i get seriously pis'd off with ya bcoz when ya grp with aleven and other ppl u just steamroll everything in sight and emotes come our way :/ anyways the ppl from this guild sound like tossers and qrowz u suck ass but still try n spam me emotes ??? get a life m8 ( and maybe some gear while ur at it )
 

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Cant comment on the actual events and always weary of SS's and posts on FH rather than right now, points at possably not showing the whole picture something which right now would check logs of hence why you posted it here rather than rightnow (not saying thats how it is, just how it looks).

Also I dont know you from adam but from posts I've seen you come across as a bit of a twat online (notice the online part, no I dont know you irl) possably why you get "unwanted" attention from people.

Anyway why post asking if other people feel its right or wrong? either you think it was or you think it wasn't decide yourself and take action/no action as you feel necissary and stop posting bullshit threads xD
 

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In the end of the day I wouldn't mind making amends with your guild, or even grouping with you, heck you seem like nice guys but sometimes I think you need to change your atitude towards me aswell as me changing my attitude.

But if you want to be immature about it, then thats fine, just please don't bother me, it's a waste of mine and yourself's time.
 

Glenmorangie

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Dorimor1 said:
In the end of the day I wouldn't mind making amends with your guild, or even grouping with you, heck you seem like nice guys but sometimes I think you need to change your atitude towards me aswell as me changing my attitude.

But if you want to be immature about it, then thats fine, just please don't bother me, it's a waste of mine and yourself's time.


Mate, you are honestly misportraying what happened. At APK, you initiated the PMs with something along the lines of "erm, noob"

The second time, well I was at work, so I cant be sure, but it seems to me you were the one sending PMs first again?

All Im saying is, stop claiming this guild is "stalking" you, because it's a load of crap. There's no personal fued as far as i know, but for you to overreact and come posting here, that's what I find wrong.
 

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Meh, that was pretty innocent. While slightly annoying, I wouldn't consider it abuse and I'm fairly sure RN will do little about it. However, considering the constant remarks you get on this subject on this forum, I can imagine it to be rather frustrating. I guess /ignore is your best option :).

You're not exactly clean as a whistle when it comes to annoying behaviour though.


(Note: this doesn't mean I agree with what that person said. I find it pretty childish too. Your attitude on this forum provokes reactions like that though. I understand that you don't want to change your attitude, but that just means you'll have to live with reactions like these.)
 

Dorimor1

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Glenmorangie said:
Mate, you are honestly misportraying what happened. At APK, you initiated the PMs with something along the lines of "erm, noob"

The second time, well I was at work, so I cant be sure, but it seems to me you were the one sending PMs first again?

All Im saying is, stop claiming this guild is "stalking" you, because it's a load of crap. There's no personal fued as far as i know, but for you to overreact and come posting here, that's what I find wrong.

He started the arguement.

And fyi, you were the one calling me a noob and making remarks about me, saying I was unskilled and other insults I won't share with Freddyshouse.

In the end of the day, you started the arguement, it is not my job to admit I was wrong.

sphir said:
thanks, was a great laugh

The fact that you find provoking people ingame some sort of amusement worries me.
 

Glenmorangie

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Dorimor1 said:
And fyi, you were the one calling me a noob and making remarks about me, saying I was unskilled and other insults I won't share with Freddyshouse.


Ill be more than happy to post our convo when I get home, simply to prove how selective your memory is.

Stop making stuff up, it's getting sad. Then again, this is probably your way of getting attention...
 

Dorimor1

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Glenmorangie said:
Ill be more than happy to post our convo when I get home, simply to prove how selective your memory is.

Stop making stuff up, it's getting sad. Then again, this is probably your way of getting attention...

Fine, you can post our convo and I can post the many emote spams and abuse /sends you have given me. I have only ever insulted you once that is when your guild pushed me over the edge. I'm sorry but I will not sink down to your level. I've tried to be mature about it, judging from your post and action ingame you are incapable of it yourself.
 

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Dorimor1 said:
Fine, you can post our convo and I can post the many emote spams and abuse /sends you have given me. I have only ever insulted you once that is when your guild pushed me over the edge. I'm sorry but I will not sink down to your level. I've tried to be mature about it, judging from your post and action ingame you are incapable of it yourself.

Please post all the abuse and emotes you got from me or from any guild member. And I mean prove it, as in the form of a screenshot and such. You wont get more than 1 or 2 emotes, simply because there are no more. But you ofcourse "formatted your computer" or "dont have time for it" (while you do have time to play thid several hours a day) etc etc. Stop making things up.

And no, you haven't been mature about it, you just been trying to put everyone but you in a bad daylight.
 

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Dorimor1

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Glenmorangie said:
Please post all the abuse and emotes you got from me or from any guild member. And I mean prove it, as in the form of a screenshot and such. You wont get more than 1 or 2 emotes, simply because there are no more. But you ofcourse "formatted your computer" or "dont have time for it" (while you do have time to play thid several hours a day) etc etc. Stop making things up.

And no, you haven't been mature about it, you just been trying to put everyone but you in a bad daylight.

Oh and you didn't count the 'lol bane of alb, you rox' comment by APK? I'd ignored you by the last pm I sent you, so I won't be worrying about you anyway in the near future.

I may have started PMing you, but as I said, you started the arguement in /s. I'd had countless PMs from your other guildies before, and I was just sick of it. You can blame me for that sure. But I won't take the blame for your guildies bitter PMing the other times.

If you want to agree to disagree thats fine. But tbh I don't want any more harrassment from your guild ingame just because you don't agree with the way I play.
 

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Dorimor1 said:
Oh and you didn't count the 'lol bane of alb, you rox' comment by APK? I'd ignored you by the last pm I sent you, so I won't be worrying about you anyway in the near future.

I may have started PMing you, but as I said, you started the arguement in /s. I'd had countless PMs from your other guildies before, and I was just sick of it. You can blame me for that sure. But I won't take the blame for your guildies bitter PMing the other times.

If you want to agree to disagree thats fine. But tbh I don't want any more harrassment from your guild ingame just because you don't agree with the way I play.


As i suspected, still making things up without backing it up whatsoever. I didnt start anything at APK, I didnt start anytihng in /s. Only thing started was that guy saying something about bane of albion.

And you havent had countless PMs of any of my guildies, stop the blatant lies :)
 

Dorimor1

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Glenmorangie said:
And you havent had countless PMs of any of my guildies, stop the blatant lies :)

Stop blatant lying.

Atleast I have the curtesy to hide your guild friends name. Because alot of people I know would send abuse back to him.

People like yourself have no curtesy.
 

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Dorimor1 said:
Stop blatant lying.

Atleast I have the curtesy to hide your guild friends name. Because alot of people I know would send abuse back to him.

People like yourself have no curtesy.


Just prove the ongoing harassment, the constant PMing, the stalking and ill even apologise.

Heck, i just tried to start a friendly convo ingame, all you could do was resort to some minor insults and skipping everything i wrote.
 

Dorimor1

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Just prove the ongoing harassment, the constant PMing, the stalking and ill even apologise.

Heck, i just tried to start a friendly convo ingame, all you could do was resort to some minor insults and skipping everything i wrote.

What, because everything I said you just said 'lol' in return.

You send, "I bet if I didn't flag my title you would not judge me".
Scotch sends, "lol".
You send, "If 'lol' is the only thing you can say against my arguement".
You send, "then I pity you".

That's no insult.
 

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Dorimor1 said:
What, because everything I said you just said 'lol' in return.

You send, "I bet if I didn't flag my title you would not judge me".
Scotch sends, "lol".
You send, "If 'lol' is the only thing you can say against my arguement".
You send, "then I pity you".


Well it was laughable and that conversation started out friendly, untill you started crying again :)

And proooooove the ongoing stalking, harassment etc etc.

I wont bother replying here till you actually do, because Im getting tired of repeating myself :)
 

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The funny thing is, Rabid Badgers has...1 player that has chars in that guild, who is active? :)

But yes I am sure you got so many pm´s from all of him.

The funny thing is that while you claim to not care etc, the only reason you bring this here is to show people how many pm´s you get, and how important you (think) you are because of that. Why else would you actually claim you get more emotespams, pm´s and shit than you actually do?

Only reason people pm you with shit is because they think you are a fucking idiot and wants to piss you off, nothing else. Noone gives a shit about bane of albion in thid, or about people managing rr1l4 on a bonedancer, but alot of people DO enjoy pissing of dumbasses, especially dumbasses who takes every bait line hook and sink and makes fun replies about how important and good they are.

Edit: I thought you freeshard chanter was rr8, but now that you say it was rr9 you went up a notch in my book. That put you on notch 1! (I love that quote).
 

Dorimor1

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Oh yes noaim and I am soo jelous of your rr11 Spiritmaster or should I say I-have-no-life-master. Perhaps you should get laid, if it's possible for someone like you.

I don't care if no one cares about my titles, I care about them, and that's what matters.

I wasn't crying Scotch, your exaggerating. And I don't take a screenshot of everyone who PMs me abuse, I thought nothing of it then, perhaps I should check GoA logs for you but I cba tonight.

Most of them are on my ignore list anyway, so all I can say is keep whining :) while I go and try get Battle Enforcer.
 

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Dorimor1 said:
Oh yes noaim and I am soo jelous of your rr11 Spiritmaster or should I say I-have-no-life-master. Perhaps you should get laid, if it's possible for someone like you.

I don't care if no one cares about my titles, I care about them, and that's what matters.

I wasn't crying Scotch, your exaggerating. And I don't take a screenshot of everyone who PMs me abuse, I thought nothing of it then, perhaps I should check GoA logs for you but I cba tonight.

Most of them are on my ignore list anyway, so all I can say is keep whining :) while I go and try get Battle Enforcer.

Its jealous (normally wouldnt point it out but since you use the word so frequently you should spell it correct), and I know you are, you dont have to tell me.

But its nice to hear that you care about your titles, very cute. :)

If I cared about mine I´d list em in my sig too, but I dont need to because people know who I am (like you did) even if I dont. Thats what YOU are jealous of.
 

Dorimor1

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I'm so sorry I can't spell jealous correctly. Considering I am not English and I did not learn English when I am at school I would imagine you are just lucky I am talking to you. Being Swedish yourself I hoped you would understand. Wrong :(

I am not jealous of anything.

You cannot say I am jealous, because I know what I am and what I am not.

Please, give it up.
 

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