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Raven

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was LW for a long time, loved it but fancied a change, respecced to 50 s/s rest parry finding it much harder to win fights, i have to use abilities vs quite a few assasins, stand no chance vs casters. now i am thinking of maybe going hybrid.

50 LW
45 Shield
34 blades
12 parry


Anyone tried a spec like this, or anyone have any comments on the spec, going to see how i get on with the s/s for now, fat fingering styles, messing up chains etc, see what its like when i have got the hang of it.
 

Kaun_IA

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im specced:
34 blunt
45 shield
50 lw
12 parry

and loveing it.... best specc i have ever played :)
 

sneakies

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Was thinking of making one to (i say thinking - i am as i have already made the tempalte :D);


34 Blades
42 Shield
50 CS
20 Parry


- Is the level 45 'Tactics' Shield thing
Effect Information: Increases groups ability to block/parry/evade by 10% for 30 seconds. 600 second recast timer.

Really worth it? On the same note i could ask if the extra Parry is worth it. But meh! :)

//edit; realise that LW has its advantages - but if im making myself a champ for LW :p
 

Jorof

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Why 45 in shield?
Why not have more in parry and take 42 shield for slam, or am i missing something ?
Seen as you solo and all.
 

Elrandhir

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sneakies said:
Was thinking of making one to (i say thinking - i am as i have already made the tempalte :D);


34 Blades
42 Shield
50 CS
20 Parry

This one is in my opinion best ;D
For soloing I guess LW is better then CS though, but except for that.
 

Raven

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Jorof said:
Why 45 in shield?
Why not have more in parry and take 42 shield for slam, or am i missing something ?
Seen as you solo and all.
for tactics, 10% buff to parry/block/evade is quite nice to have for a slight change in the typical 50 LW 42 Shield 34 (think it is) blades
 

Elrandhir

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Raven said:
for tactics, 10% buff to parry/block/evade is quite nice to have for a slight change in the typical 50 LW 42 Shield 34 (think it is) blades

yeah, guess it could be okay going 45 shield and abit less parry for tactics, but dunno.
 

sneakies

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I think its a fairly minimal gain and over time, the 20 parry is surely more beneficial. So yea, i think ill go with my spec (tis mostly for grp play, but im sure it could work if i went on a solo run or two!)
 

Elrandhir

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With pure S/S you will have harder against any dual wielder and much easier against anyone with 2h.

I think the split spec is best tbh ;D
 

Elrandhir

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sneakies said:
I think its a fairly minimal gain and over time, the 20 parry is surely more beneficial. So yea, i think ill go with my spec (tis mostly for grp play, but im sure it could work if i went on a solo run or two!)

Yeah think so to, if anything the tactics would be for group matters, I don't either belive it will make that big diff in 1 vs 1, better go higher parry then imo.
 

Duzic

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not rly sure about hero's but on arms im 44 slash 42 shield 46 parry and sorted a temp with 101 str 100 dex 95con 350 hits and i havnt looked back since. dont really have any real problems with any stealthers or many tanks tbh, i actually find i need to use less timers to win most fights since i respecced. went for quite alot of passives RAs also mob, moparry, aug dex ect. only downside is like u said can get abit tricky when fighting multiple casters :p
 

Elrandhir

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Duzic said:
not rly sure about hero's but on arms im 44 slash 42 shield 46 parry and sorted a temp with 101 str 100 dex 95con 350 hits and i havnt looked back since. dont really have any real problems with any stealthers or many tanks tbh, i actually find i need to use less timers to win most fights since i respecced. went for quite alot of passives RAs also mob, moparry, aug dex ect. only downside is like u said can get abit tricky when fighting multiple casters :p

Well that spec is nice for solo for sure tbh and well no diff between hero and Armsman really imo.

Still I could never spec like that as I will run in groups and I could tops lower blades some to get higher parry.

But if you only Solo, then sure, why not. haha that parry is insane tbh, not strange I dident stand a chance atall when fighting you.

Lower it to 6 and rematch? :p
 

Duzic

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Elrandhir said:
Well that spec is nice for solo for sure tbh and well no diff between hero and Armsman really imo.

Still I could never spec like that as I will run in groups and I could tops lower blades some to get higher parry.

But if you only Solo, then sure, why not. haha that parry is insane tbh, not strange I dident stand a chance atall when fighting you.

Lower it to 6 and rematch? :p

will give u a rematch with my infil once im done toa'ing him instead ;) altho im guessing u will kill me as easy as i did u when i was on arms :p
 

Elrandhir

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Duzic said:
will give u a rematch with my infil once im done toa'ing him instead ;) altho im guessing u will kill me as easy as i did u when i was on arms :p

Probably will, only really loosing to pretty high Infils like Cerishas and an SB called Nimroel well others also, but I remember them as they have kicked my ar*e so many times =P

Not haveing purge and 6 parry screws me over much tbh, would be nice to atleast have p1 ;D

Still I just do some soloing when nothinig else to do, and wont respec for any soloing as I will mainly do fg RvR with Elrandhir.
 

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My hero's first spec was 50spear 42shield 38parry 10blades, worked really well when i think back on it, the parry was really usefull when landing the spear parry chain.
 

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Duzic said:
will give u a rematch with my infil once im done toa'ing him instead ;) altho im guessing u will kill me as easy as i did u when i was on arms :p

what's your infil called Duzic? :)
 

ebenezer

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hey rave, i would go for the 45 shield spec like you typed in first post if i ever would respec. I was 50 shield 50 blade a loooong time. I was low rr and anyone could have a hard time getting me down, but it was boring as hell playing it, and was only cool in pve. I rather loose a few fights against the hard high block characters out there ( hey duzic:p) and do well against a majority of the other players. I talked with sacre about how he plays now after respecing more shield, and he have a harder time against some dual wielders....so thats always gonna be the case. You will always have some class that will be tough on ur weapon choise or spec:)
But if i would ever change il try the hybrid with 45 shield for tactics.
Gl with it.
 

Jorof

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I see that none of these specs have 50 in your weapon type.
My warrior has 50 Hammer, 42 shield and 39 parry, how much of a difference would it be if i dropped hammer to say 44 and boosted my defence a bit more? Or is it different for Hero/Arms because warrior's can use 2h and 1h in one spec, so speccing lower in my weapon would gimp my dmg ?
Anyone know anything about this, or you hero/arms notice a difference in your dmg when lowering your weapon spec ?

P.S dont laugh at me too hard if i said something stupid :(
 

Elrandhir

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Jorof said:
I see that none of these specs have 50 in your weapon type.
My warrior has 50 Hammer, 42 shield and 39 parry, how much of a difference would it be if i dropped hammer to say 44 and boosted my defence a bit more? Or is it different for Hero/Arms because warrior's can use 2h and 1h in one spec, so speccing lower in my weapon would gimp my dmg ?
Anyone know anything about this, or you hero/arms notice a difference in your dmg when lowering your weapon spec ?

P.S dont laugh at me too hard if i said something stupid :(


Okay Im no pro at warriors, But I don't think they need to and shouldent spec down the weapon tbh as they get so high in every line neways.

Keep weapon at 50 in my opinion, warrior will still own most if played well =P
 

Icebreaker

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My Question is why do you Guys put so many Points into onehanded Weapons? Like 50 shield/50 lw 28 blades 6 parry etc. With this spec for example you just use the s/s combination to slam stuff (maybe engage sometimes) then switch to LW.
 

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3Icebreaker" said:
My Question is why do you Guys put so many Points into onehanded Weapons? Like 50 shield/50 lw 28 blades 6 parry etc. With this spec for example you just use the s/s combination to slam stuff (maybe engage sometimes) then switch to LW.
guess having a couple of one-handed block/parry chains can't hurt tbh
 

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Ivynoxia said:
what's your infil called Duzic? :)

Tuz :p PLed it quite a while ago but never got round to toa'ing it, just working on sorting out a basic temp to get me started altho it may take some time as i just spent all my cash on my new arms temp :(
 

Adlatus Hellbringer

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Well a side from the spec question I would only go s/s if u r using a mainhand weapon that procs a lifetap mist (i.e. traitors) or the ml10 mainhander (lots of swords :p). This racks up the dmg nicely. As for spec i would go for the 42 shield spec and more parry. Imo 20 parry should have more of an effect over time than the tactics.

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Duzic

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malice/leggy weps > traitors tbh :p for s/s heavy tank atleast
 

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Duzic said:
malice/leggy weps > traitors tbh :p for s/s heavy tank atleast
my warden will be inc with solo spec soon enough! :)
 

Furnus

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ebenezer said:
But if i would ever change il try the hybrid with 45 shield for tactics.
Gl with it.

Just wanna say that tactics is crap and hardly worth specing for.
 

Punishment

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Thinking of suiting Punishment for solo ... as he never seems to get groups anyway as everyone hates him :(

Gonna go :

50 Large weapon
45 Shield
25 Pierce (Diamondback + Gs)
Rest Parry :D

Who knows it could be the stupidest spec of all time ... But being different RoXX <3
 

Raven

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well going to give it a few weeks of s/s, dont fancy exping malice yet again (4 times already) there is no question, malice would be my main damage weapon, would be silly not to use it due to the proc. would also have battler in for the charge.
 

Punishment

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Raven said:
well going to give it a few weeks of s/s, dotn fancy exping malice yet again (4 times already) there is no question, malice would be my main damage weapon, would be silly not to use it due to the proc. would also have battler in for the charge.

Aye ive levelled malice 3 times already and tbh for me its a case of ... is it really worth it ... would like to use malice as 2h but i have my heart set on champ 2h slasher so maybe relevel it from scratch again as a blunt 2h ... would prolly use Gs as my 1h piercer but if i could get my hands on a fang i wouldn't say no either :D

Also have my heart set on ml7 large shield as my shield as looks > slam speed imo ...
 

Girafmad

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with a bit of training you can abuse lag and land lvl 50 LW style, hence less need for slam... id go
50 lw
50 parry
rest sheild for engage vs archers
 

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