Ridley Scott may direct Alien prequel

[Tom]

BBC NEWS | Entertainment | Scott 'to direct Alien prequel'

Well if Scott has attached himself to it, that can only be a good thing. At least it wouldn't be a shitfest like the AVP films have been.

modit: sorted your title Tom. rgds TdC.
ps. I'm in ur threadz, haxing ur titlez!

 

[Shagrat]

cool news if that comes off

 

[ECA]

1+3 were ok 2+4 were retarded.

 

[00dave]

1+3 were ok 2+4 were retarded.

You're retarded if you think the second film (aliens) is retarded. Aliens is without a doubt the best movie ever made and anyone who says its crap automatically loses the right to an opinion If they also claim in public that Alien3 was better than alien and/or aliens they are to be swaffled to death with an unclean cheese filled penis.

 

[ECA]

Easy there dave I didnt realise your boyfriend had been an extra an Aliens.

 

[Trem]

1 and 2 were awesome, 3 was a pile of gay and 4 we won't talk about.

 

[Garaen]

Am i the only one who really liked the first AVP? I thought the whole setting in a temple under the ice was great. Watched AVP2 last night and it was a bit meh, but I still enjoyed it.

 

[gunner440]

Am i the only one who really liked the first AVP?

Nope!

 

[Turamber]

1 and 2 easily the best, 3 was weak but not bad, 4 ... well, its not surprising that AvP films were so bad with that as their immediate predecessor.

 

[Ch3tan]

I agree with ECA, kinda. I enjoyed 2 but it was just a action movie in space. 1 and 3 were proper scary movie material. Only 1 alien, confined spaces, and not much in the way of weaponry. Loved the atmosphere of the prison planet in 3.

4 was meh, but not awful, again it was just an action movie in space. The whole Ripleys kid idea was shit though.

 

[DaGaffer]

After Aliens they should have followed the plotline from the comics; far, far better than what they came up with Alien 3 and 4.

 

[Aada]

1+3 were ok 2+4 were retarded.

Aliens 2 shit?

GTFO.

I actually enjoyed 3 it seemed to go back to the roots of Alien where it was just 1 Alien v the rest = gorefest lol

4 was the worst but it wasn't like it was unwatchable.

AVP films annoyed me because the gore was toned down to fuck so the kids could come and watch it.

Wish they would hurry and get the Alien films on Bluray.

 

[Raven]

AVP weren't that bad if you treated them as totally separate films to alien/predator (which they were) Heavily Americanised though.

 

[00dave]

Alien 3 is just one big plot hole tbh, the events in aliens means that the plot of alien 3 couldn't have actually happened.

When a director like David Fincher, who has proven himself to be a good director, dissacociates himself with the movie you know something is wrong with it. DaGaffer is right the comics were much better.

And lets not speak of that 4th piece of shit.

 

[mank!]

i really quite like the fourth film. not a patch on the first two obviously

 

[echome]

Over at slashfilm.com they fear that Ridley Scott could never achieve what he did earlier and tbh I think I agree. He want to explore the origin of the aliens and stuff like that... exciting? I think so.
Well Aliens used to scare the SHIT out of me and that is what I want again... please.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well aliens is always a divider series.

1 bores me these days, was good when it came,
2 is fun action, pure and simple,
3 is a touch better then 1 but still yawning,
4 has some bits that are good, but also bits that are VERY bad,
AVP was fun enough if you don't take it too serious,
AVP2 had it's moments, but no AVP.

New where it started thing? Well, have to see.

To be honest, director means sh*t all to me.

 

[Zenith.UK]

Alien stands as a good film as long as you don't rewatch it too often. I remember that it made me jump a mile the first time I watched it.

Aliens is a perfect example of how to improve on a very good original. It ticks all the right boxes and I still enjoy watching it even now.

Alien3 is poor when compared to Alien and Aliens, but is still a decent film in it's own right. The character dynamics could have been a bit more distinct, but mysogynistic serial rapist prisoners with a woman in their midst makes for good character conflict.

Alien Resurrection has much of the feel of the original Alien IMO. It just didn't seem to gel together as a narrative. I suppose I wish Ron Perlman's character had died.


Something that people seem to overlook is that the Alien films touch on some deep themes like what makes a person human, conflicting moral imperatives and sacrifice. Stuff that makes you think.

 

[mycenae]

Alien and Aliens were both awesome films, and Aliens is possibly one of the best sequels ever, I really rate it up there with Temple of Doom, Empire Strikes Back and Terminator 2. 3 and 4 are both fun and enjoyable but not a patch on 1 and 2...I thought the charactrs in 3 were brilliant and I thought Weaver did a fab job in 4...I like her eviiiiil! (heheh)
AVP was, again, fun....AVP 2 is ok.....but not so good.
I'd look forward to another Alien film is the same guy was involved as did 1 and 2.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Alien - a mastery of suspense, genuinely brilliant.
Aliens - a mastery of action, genuinely brilliant. Ace soundtrack too.
Alien 3 - Actually pretty good.
Resurrection - Mixed bag. Mostly terrible (Sigourney Weaver's character/reason for existence is terrible, some of the acting (Pearlman in particular is awful) is woeful, and that stupid creature thing at the end is an utter, utter joke.
AVP1 - Rofl.
AVP2 - Not seen.

 

[Ch3tan]

Try to never watch it (avp2) then. You'll tear your own eyes from their sockets. AVP was bearable as a action movie, 2 is just plain awful.

 

[Aoami]

Predator > Alien

get to the CHOPPERRRRRRRRR

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Hehe, Eca trolling a bit there? Lots of bites anyway

The first and second movies were classics. Despite the second being a ostensibly a sequel its practically in a different genre and the ideas for the first were just something to base the movie on, rather than the usual sequel-that-rehashes-the-first-movie garbage to which we are typically treated.

The third movie is all kinds of dreadful. Bad story, bad script, bad pacing. The only thing they really got right was making most of the inmates English. Danny Webby and Pete Postlethwaite ftw, etc.

Fourth had a lot of good things in it and actually got close in parts to the feel of some of the comics but didn't quite gel and ultimately it was undermined by the rather embaressing alien hybrid design towards the end. Even Ron Perlman's customary awesomeness couldn't help. Ron Perlman aside, there were some very poor casting choices in that movie.

Sir Ridley can be very awesome when he's not making pot boiler movies (Black Rain, etc) but even those pot boiler movies always look great and have more to offer than many other movies.

At first I was a bit "RAAAR!" that Sir Ridley was attached to this then it occured to me that it might just be exec producer or something rather than to helm it himself, despite what Auntie Beeb have to say. We'll see

 

[ECA]

For me Aliens was a decent film, but I felt like it departed too much from the mechanics of the first film, it wasn't really a suspense/horror movie as much as an action movies that happened to have aliens in it.

Alien 3 went back to the suspense setup and I liked it more then 2.

 

[Yoni]

Alien was tense and awesome
Aliens was the best of all of them for me
The others I could not stand and I really think they have done the whole alien thing to death now so probably wont go and see the prequel.

 

[00dave]

For me Aliens was a decent film, but I felt like it departed too much from the mechanics of the first film, it wasn't really a suspense/horror movie as much as an action movies that happened to have aliens in it.

Alien 3 went back to the suspense setup and I liked it more then 2.

So the very thing that made aliens possibly the most successful sequel of all time is what you dislike about it. The change in pace was what made it awesome.

Since nobody bothered to ask me why alien3 is just one big plot hole, I shall tell you. At the end of aliens Ripley flames, shoots and blows up all the eggs in the chamber, the queen then tears itself from her eggsack to chase Ripley. Onboard the Sulaco the time in between them landing to the queen reappearing when does it have time to dump a couple of eggs that it doesn't have onboard without being noticed, one of which being a 'special egg' with a queen in it.

Alien 3 is just a terrible movie as part of a series, as a standalone movie to start the series it might have been ok.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

There's an implication at the start of Alien 3 that at least one facehugger got onboard. There's nothing that specifically says it was brought on board directly by the queen.

I agree its a bit lax and very much a cop-out but there's just enough doubt and they can just about get away with it. Interestingly, its that same lameness that continues throughout the film. The scene where the inmates are in the mess hall discussing the 'hiccups' then one gets pulled up through the ceiling is inept horror at its worst. Its like something someone would come up with for a high school project.

 

[00dave]

There's an implication at the start of Alien 3 that at least one facehugger got onboard. There's nothing that specifically says it was brought on board directly by the queen.

You mean besides the shot of the hatched egg attached to a wall in what is clearly not the loading bay.
http://www.artofthetitle.com/media/film/1992/alien3_contact.jpg

Another problem being the probablility of an automated response for a fire being to jettison stasis pods rather than deal with it in the unique way you can extinguish a fire in space.

 

[Roo Stercogburn]

Hehe fair do.

Again though, nothing to say specifically it came from the queen that Ripley killed. Its just an egg... and no info as to how it got there. In theory one facehugger could make a queen via say, Hicks, then the queen lays an egg or so and then its time to do something stupid with the electrics that makes the ship go boom. I can't remember if Hicks was recovered on the planet along with Newt.

If I was setting up for Alien 3, I'd have gone with a simple facehugger or so creeping around the dropship unnoticed, perhaps the queen grabbed one or more on the way out of the hive. No need for anything complex. If I had the budget for it, I'd have superimposed another camera angle of the fight with the queen with viewpoint from inside the dropship and showing perhaps a silhouette of a facehugger creeping out of the landing struts. That would be easier to explain and gets to the same point.

Aaaanyway. You were right. My memory has proved faulty on this

Going back to the possible prequel, there is much potential for coolness in the story. The company knew there was some kind of alien signal but its not indicated if the company had already had prior encounters with this alien lifeform. The way Ash was programmed hints at the company knew what to expect but thats veeerry flimsy. There's also the possibility that we may get to meet the other alien species that we only see dead in the first film.

I'd prefer it was more in tone with the original than any of the sequels.

 

[00dave]

Hehe fair do.

Again though, nothing to say specifically it came from the queen that Ripley killed. Its just an egg... and no info as to how it got there. In theory one facehugger could make a queen via say, Hicks, then the queen lays an egg or so and then its time to do something stupid with the electrics that makes the ship go boom. I can't remember if Hicks was recovered on the planet along with Newt.

If I was setting up for Alien 3, I'd have gone with a simple facehugger or so creeping around the dropship unnoticed, perhaps the queen grabbed one or more on the way out of the hive. No need for anything complex. If I had the budget for it, I'd have superimposed another camera angle of the fight with the queen with viewpoint from inside the dropship and showing perhaps a silhouette of a facehugger creeping out of the landing struts. That would be easier to explain and gets to the same point.

Aaaanyway. You were right. My memory has proved faulty on this

Sadly both Hicks and Newt were killed off in the crash at the beginning by lazy bastard writers. Cameron himself states on the directors commentary of aliens that he was annoyed when he put his characters and audience through so much to rescue this little girl from certain death only for someone to come along and kill everyone off at the start of the movie. They even had the cheek to use Michael Biehn's likeness in the movie without permission and without even talking to him about a reprisal, I believe he successfully sued for that.

I think you're right about that opening shot it would have been much better and quite artistic too. They could have easily created a silhouete on a dirty cockpit screen with next to no money.

And I'm alway right, I can't help if if sometimes people disagree with me.