Resist debuffs and non-cloth casters

[Sepiritz]

Has anyone tested for sure if debuffing spirit for say necros and smite clerics doesnt work? I heard a loose rumour about it working in PvP but not PvE. I know for a fact it doesnt work in PvE but does anyone know for a fact it doesnt work in PvP?

IF it DID work maybe a

rej cleric, rej cleric,
enh cleric,
smite cleric, smite cleric, smite cleric
minstrel
spirit cabbie

setup might work out? Imagine the amount of instas that could be dished out.. *drool* and it could actually kill someone if the smite dmg could be debuffed, AND be very viable post buffshearing.. Alt. replace one of the clerics with a bodyguard, possibly pally.

 

[gunner440]

smite dmg isnt debuffed in rvr if i remember frpm some previous test.
not sure about necros tho

 

[Asha]

tested it 6 months ago for clerics
feel free to do it again, it only takes a moment, two players and a mob or player

 

[NetNifty]

Tested in under 1.65 with smite and necros, had no difference on mobs. Heard from necro forums that it still doesnt work for necros in 1.68.

 

[Flimgoblin]

it's the same as legendary weapons in PvE - doesn't work.

However legendary weapon debuffs work fine in RvR afaik....

 

[Flimgoblin]

I asked on VN - one of the long term smiters (board name Nine_Inchnails) said:

"It works. Have a spirit cab friend of mine and assisting him makes me feel like a wizard again."

 

[Asha]

maybe they stealth changed it then

I think it works for reavers but not positive. Maybe was wishful thinking.

 

[Flimgoblin]

quite possible it changed with ToA so that legendary weapons would work...

 

[Asha]

it would help with cleric groups BUT you would still be inferior casters due to cast times, dmg, range, power useage...

Someone test it I wanna know
I don't trust Americans.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Smite club may give it a shot

 

[Asha]

bit surprized that you haven't tbh
but I guess you would have to talk some poor caba into being the only caster in a group of smite clerics

heal
heal me damn it
HEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL













and that is the smite clerics to the caba ^^

 

[Sepiritz]

and that is the smite clerics to the caba ^^

rofl
nice one, totally didnt see it coming.
But yea, casttimes and all it would be inferior. Good things are:
Baseline stun (spirit) gets debuff advantage, yay, feels hibbeh..
Survivability, old skool smiteclerics had 23, 9, 48 smite, only need 43 smite these days for the best dd so they can have even more points for other stuff though even that spec gave you two instas, so every cleric will have two instas, with the exception of the full enhance cleric ofcourse.
And even though the ranged damage will be slower, clerics can still use all their pbaoe insta dds (spirit) that are 130(?) delve damage up close, so the dd'ing will NEVER stop and with a bodyguarded spirit caba with moc the spirit debuffs will just keep on coming.
I dare you to try and kill someone in under 10 seconds in a group where 80% of the members have a spread heal.
I would love to try this. In fact I would be prepared to respec my cleric to smite if it wasnt for the fact I have a spirit cabbie...
Anyway, does anyone know both a spirit cabbie and someone from an other realm willing to do some tests? If you can arrange something I dont mind providing cleric or spirit cabbie.
And im rambling, too much beer, too little tolerance...

 

[Flimgoblin]

it varies with smite club but we have

44s/30r people, 44s/split r/e 43s/29e/13r folks

now we have a 40e/35s cleric too

we even had a proper 50smiter

so not too many spreadheals unfortunately.

And too right - with extra points in body that cabbie will be healing fine

 

[Asha]

I meant combining slow cast with debuffing is teh sux I would imagine.

could be fun tho

adding caba + bg is two more slots tho

 

[NetNifty]

Just a case of timing And I should be up for Smite Club with my spirit cab... only problem is you'll lose Link's bot as its on same account as my cabby :/

 

[Kagato]

I've toyed with the idea of a spirit debuff group comprising of a couple of clerics, cabbie, theurg, sorc and tanks using spirit damage legendary weapons, or maybe with reavers after new frontiers, but with clerics not benefiting from debuffs it makes it less neat. I'd be interested to know if it has changed.

 

[sibanac]

I'dd be up for running the cabby, tho i only have the 30% spirit debuff.

 

[Flimgoblin]

looks like we're going with the bot transfigured into spirit cabbie plan... can run some other separate tests in emain sometime sib if you want?

 

[sibanac]

looks like we're going with the bot transfigured into spirit cabbie plan... can run some other separate tests in emain sometime sib if you want?

sure, tho playtime is a bit limited atm whit me moving house and stuff, but i should be able to fit in a night

BTW does the traldor lvl 10 work for clerics, would be another 5% extra dmg

 

[Flimgoblin]

sure, tho playtime is a bit limited atm whit me moving house and stuff, but i should be able to fit in a night

BTW does the traldor lvl 10 work for clerics, would be another 5% extra dmg

I get the buff icon ... and it seems to increase my damage - can't see why not

 

[Chilly]

we can ask killspanas to get his crossrealming friends to coem and help us, sib debuffs for chilly et voilla

 

[Flimgoblin]

we can ask killspanas to get his crossrealming friends to coem and help us, sib debuffs for chilly et voilla

lol

 

[Asha]

u guys take too long to do a simple test

 

[Belomar]

Just respecced out of the 50% spirit debuff myself, pity.

 

[Flimgoblin]

it works - at least in duels with the legendary weapon debuff.

Spirit mace + pbaoe nuke for teh win!