render creation failed ??!!

[jenifer]

ok heres the deal

i hope you guys can help as im so annoyed wiht this sh!t!!!

i have two comps and now both have the same error after i reinstal windows (due to spyware / messing up windows issues and being generally a clumsy witch!). I reinstall windows and update drivers and install directx 9b... and both ocmps have the same config justo ne is at 500 ram the other is a 1000ram...

now when i try playing daoc i get a

'render creation failed'

i use ...

Comp one:

service pack 1
pent 4 3.0ghz
nvidia fx 5000
1gb ram

comp 2:

service pack 2
pent 4 3.0ghz
nvidia geforce4 MX 4000


i dont know whats worng with it

plz help!

 

[Kami]

A few things to try:

1. Reinstall Direct X9b and your video card driver
2. Uninstall your video card driver and install either the one that came with the card or the latest one (whichever you haven't tried before)
3. Check your monitor can run the game at the resolution it's trying to load at (might be using a different monitor driver since you've just reinstalled windows).
4. See if any other game will run (San andreas is a good test)
5. Run DXDiag (start menu > Run> Dxdiag) and run the tests in the display tab

 

[jenifer]

did your suggestions

comuter one s working now

but computer 2 is still giving me render creation failed

computer one is also giving me a blue screen of death woth the msg

IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL


erf i hate comps!

 

[stickyplaster]

looks like a graphics driver errror. check in your bios that fast write is enabled for the agp slot (assuming u have agp gfx). Then go to control panel ==> system ==> harware monitor and uninstall graphics card. reboot and reinstall card drivers, reboot again......

sorry its longwinded but this should solve the issues.

 

[jenifer]

im rly sorry


but could u explain that in a long winded way ... im a girl im nto really fast on catching on to the 'technical' side of life


but thank you for replying swiftly

 

[jenifer]

lo before my very eyes when i cleaned out heatsink and removed dust / reinstalled directx and graphic drivers i get a 'new and imporved' blue screen

Technical information:

STOP: 0x00000008E

nv4_disp.dll - address BFB699e0 base at BF9B8000


... shall i throw my machine out the window ?

 

[Jeriraa]

This is a tricky one... it should be driver related but can aswell mean that your RAM is faulty.

Try this driver and see if it works: http://www.nvidia.com/object/winxp_2k_56.72.html

 

[Samaroon EatsCheese]

its defo either driver related or you need a newer direct x, happened to me ages ago

i don't know much about this shizz so thats all the help i can give! >.<

 

[Jeriraa]

Is the one with the bluescreen the one without SP2? You might wanna install that then.

Oh and about the redercreation failed error on the other one: Rename the file user.dat in the camelot directory to user1.dat. Sometimes this file gets messed up and since it contains info about your gfx adapter and resolution to start the game at it can create this error.

 

[Jeriraa]

Just remembered 1 more thing: Did you install the AGP drivers for your mainboard on the machine with the STOP error? If not you might want to do that too.

 

[jenifer]

agp ??

can u explain that plz .. i might have but not sure what it is .. would that be the intel chicpset drivers ?

 

[liloe]

agp ??

can u explain that plz .. i might have but not sure what it is .. would that be the intel chicpset drivers ?

Well, when you look into your computer to the gfx card you'll see it connected through a slot and there're (basically) 3 different types for that: PCI, AGP and PCIe. I googled it for you, no problem, your gfx card is connected via AGP. So what Jeriraa means is the following:

You check out the CD that was given with your motherboard (should be something from Asus, Asrock, Gigabyte or so). Put in the CD and look for a thing called like AGP Miniport driver, they're called like that on most systems. Install these drivers, restart the system and try again.

There is another thing I saw when checking for your gfx card. The nVidia 5000fx is an AGXx8 card and they sometimes have problems, so if you know your way around the BIOS, try to lower the card from 8x to 4x speed. It will cost you some performance, but it might help. Hard to explain how to find it in the BIOS though, as it's different depending on the manufacturer.

And about these Intel Chipset drivers. If you haven't installed them, do that aswell =)

 

[jenifer]

its now when i wish i was back in the uk ad could get al lmy friends to ocme over and help!!!!


im still getting the arror ...

its giving me the blue screen of death again with the following message

nv4_disp.dll

what does this now mean ? I have a feeling it is my graphics drivers for sure now as nv4 soundsto me like a short for an nvidia.dll

justtried jerriras idea so will haveot wait till after work (three hours) to find out what happens... will keep u all updated ofc


and thank you all for your replies... VERY appreciated (anymore suggestions would also be great )

PS: could someone give me a link for directx 9c download... i cant dl it from microsoft website cos of a validation prob or sumin... just not my day eh!

 

[jenifer]

ok just tried the suggestions of nvidia drivers...

right the 56.72 ones give me the same error

BUT

when i tried the 78.01 drivers my comp was more stable and there were no 'greyed out' patches in armor models... but i still get a screen will record what it says nxt time

 

[Dwali]

sounds like u have a really serious prob here...i have gotten thouse render alot to i just reinsladd daoc most of the time and the directx and it workt (most of the times)

and i have a borrow x700 pci-e card now so i´m using the drivers from the internet and they works fine...i have a fx 5500 lying around somewhere in my room...and that did work like a charm from day 1

 

[Pera]

Hey there,

I had the same problem with my ATI card and it took me almost a week to finally find a driver that worked flawless. A good thing to do is to check camelot support web page and see what drivers they recommend for nvidia chipset based gfx cards. I am almost positive its a driver related issue because I used to get blue screen saying that "ati2dvag.dll" caused an error. Something similar to yours I guess. so yeah try to find a driver that works with yours.

/cheers

 

[jenifer]

ok now my computer just restarts ...

 

[Pera]

Hey again,

What do you mean by "My computer just restarts"? Does it restart when playing DAOC? Does it restart just after it starts? What have you done to it to make it restart? It would help if you could be more specififc

 

[jenifer]

yes sorry bout that ^^

when i play daoc it restarts at random when it doesnt like something... i can play sometimes for a hour then it restarts ... or after 5 minutes of being in it restarts...

no blue screen anymore though so I think the problem is ifne tunining ... just got the nasty restart...

and all of this cos of some sad bastard making 'harmful' spyware!!! ffs

 

[jenifer]

hmmm still says nv4_disp.dll is causing the blue screen again

does it matter where i install nvidia drivers ?

cos i have a new driver with nv4_dsp.dll in a nvidia display folder on C and also a nv4_disp.dll file on c:windows\system32

one is > than other but i cant replace em cos they r being 'used' by the system

 

[liloe]

hmmm still says nv4_disp.dll is causing the blue screen again

does it matter where i install nvidia drivers ?

cos i have a new driver with nv4_dsp.dll in a nvidia display folder on C and also a nv4_disp.dll file on c:windows\system32

one is > than other but i cant replace em cos they r being 'used' by the system

the drivers your system uses are automatically set to the correct place, so no worries about that. If you want to get rid of the old drivers, you can delete your gfx card in the hardware properties of your computer ( dunno english name for it, only got German Windows =)) ). After that, reboot the computer and start at 0 with installing the gfx drivers. This way you can test multiple versions. Try out the one provided with your card, try out the newest from nVidia homepage.

Btw, u're not the only one with problems in that direction, someone posted a similar thing on the french technic forums, but not many replies there and all of them were mentioned here already.

 

[jenifer]

see ive done what u suggested... but the two files always remain i nthe placesi mentioned...

and dxdialog (i read in another ofurm) was meant to help and DID mention there was an error with the one in c:/windows/system32 ... but i cant seem to remove it

right now im trying out the safe mode with drivercleaner suggestion...

will be back with an update in 20 mins

 

[jenifer]

didnt work

stil lgetting the nv4_dsp.dll blue screen of bs!

 

[jenifer]

The file nv4_disp.dll is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.


according to dxdiag

 

[liloe]

The file nv4_disp.dll is not digitally signed, which means that it has not been tested by Microsoft's Windows Hardware Quality Labs (WHQL). You may be able to get a WHQL logo'd driver from the hardware manufacturer.


according to dxdiag

the newest drivers from nVidia homepage should be WHQL signed....but that's not much an issue, WHQL is only some Microsoft bullshit to make people believe their system works

But wew at your problem....it's hard to say more without looking at it atm, at least for me :/

I'm sorry but I don't have any other idea atm

 

[Kaun_IA]

why are you useing dx 9b?? install c version(has bee out for a long time allredy)

mybe it helps

 

[Pera]

Jenifer,

I would go ahead and download SpeedFan and monitor the temperatures on your gfx card. However, I am almost positive you are having a driver issue. Like I said it took me about a week to find a good driver that works with my pc.

Try to see if there is a software at Nvidia's website that helps remove all the gfx card drivers. Also , like the above poster said make sure to install directx 9c if you are runing DR client. I am sure your problem will be solved once you find a driver that is stable with your system.

 

[jenifer]

heres the deal... i just found out that directx *real* version is 9b but i have installed 9c and it does say 9c installation complete... but then on dxdiag it says 9b ...

According to all the posts i have tried various drivers, checked my ram (is working) cleaned out and tested my fan (40-50C is not bad imo, so thats working) clean isntall of windows twice (so its not the iwndows).

so there are two issues remaining here:
1) its my nvidia (fx 5000) gfx driver
2) direct x issue possibly

Thank you all for your help, unfortunately this still isnt resolved so any mroe suggestions or links to helpful drivers / good nvidia (fx 5000) drivers u would suggest would be great!!! im nto very good at finding a 'compatible' driver... if it says new i dl it - oly cos i dont understand much hehe.

Also if anyone would be sooo kind as to send suggestions on how to remove Directx compeltely form my system and possibly send me directx 9c (cant dl itform windows cos of some validation error - which im not going into!)

also you can find me on msn at tkloel@hotmail.com

Once again thank you all and if i do solve this problem besure to find a HUGE thank you post to all those who helped and a 'sticky' how to solve this problem hehe post

 

[mze]

Directx can not be uninstalled as far as i know, only updated, you can dl it from here from one of the mirrors at the bottom :

http://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=835


As for graphics drivers you should try Omega drivers, which you can aquire from this link :

Here

/edit also try to update your windows to SP2 as next option (google.com for free dl links) , turn on auto update to get the rest of the updates, that doesn't require legal windows or any tricks with IE to get .

 

[jenifer]

wil ltry the sugestions out now

but a quick q as im nto so familiar with microsoft dl temrinolgoy *if that exists* but is 'directx 9c redistribution' a directx 9c download or is it some sort of add on ?