Ren Pwr Relic Gone

[Icebreaker]

I'll wake up if you buy a clue... Hell I'll even lend you the cash

(Edit after Icebreaker's edit)

There were numbers to wipe us (as our final visit to the tower proved)
So if they didn't get their act together and kill a suicidal grp whose fault is that?

That my friend, is the truth from my perspective... You don't have to like it, you don't even have to listen but I'm posting it anyway, because I'm entitled...

It's easy, if you really wanted to suicide and there wasnt any Hibs then you could just hug some Guards.What you really wanted to do is killing more Hibs.If you wait 40 fucking minutes to suicide (yea yea) then there is something wrong with you.

 

[Dakkath]

It's easy, if you really wanted to suicide and there wasnt any Hibs then you could just hug some Guards.What you really wanted to do is killing more Hibs.If you wait 40 fucking minutes to suicide (yea yea) then there is something wrong with you.

There in lies the problem...

There were plenty of hibs present at the tower (approx 3fgs worth, be they grouped or not).

They kept comming, we kept killing. You're telling me you've never been on a 'final run' waiting to get wiped before you log?

 

[Icebreaker]

There in lies the problem...

There were plenty of hibs present at the tower (approx 3fgs worth, be they grouped or not).

They kept comming, we kept killing. You're telling me you've never been on a 'final run' waiting to get wiped before you log?

No, usually there are still alot people ingame and the fights still go on at the time i log.And you really think at this time there are any opted Hib fgs out to kill you? Next time be abit more clear. You sounded like there wasn't any (or almost none) Hibs at the end.

So with this Info about the 3fg hibs i would still say you didnt wanted really to suicide.

If i get tired and i know i cant suicide to real enemies i would let guard pwn me and log. I wont wait 40 minutes or would try to take a tower. Thats just stupid.

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

how about you wake up?

We tried to suicide but we couldn't for some reason. rofl

Happens a lot. If you never had an "okay, this is our suicide run" that lasts around an hour than you haven't played DAoC.

 

[Dakkath]

No, usually there are still alot people ingame and the fights still go on at the time i log.And you really think at this time there are any opted Hib fgs out to kill you? Next time be abit more clear. You sounded like there wasn't any (or almost none) Hibs at the end.

So with this Info about the 3fg hibs i would still say you didnt wanted really to suicide.

If i get tired and i know i cant suicide to real enemies i would let guard pwn me and log. I wont wait 40 minutes or would try to take a tower. Thats just stupid.

Hehe, as usual any thread I decide to post in becomes the 'Dakkath and Person X' show... Looks like it's you and me this time

On the clarity point, if there was room for misunderstanding (there obviously was, or you and I wouldn't have posted so many 'quote posts') then I apologise. I'll try to be a little more careful about clarity of my posts in the future...

 

[Sparx]

i was one of the albs tryin to defend out of about 10 of us

Good job hibs i say took just the right towers to stop us porting around

Grats

 

[Icebreaker]

Happens a lot. If you never had an "okay, this is our suicide run" that lasts around an hour than you haven't played DAoC.

For me its not a suicide run to do this. If we do that its called: last run

suicide = go, get killed, log

 

[Tuthmes]

For me its not a suicide run to do this. If we do that its called: last run

suicide = go, get killed, log

Yeh w8 for the brehon or greycon to pop le oil then stand under it, instead of popping up a warram and saying last run magem8's and kill the same 2 hibs over and over and think wtf there's over 3fg hibs here, because you only pressed f8 and nuke button!

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

For me its not a suicide run to do this. If we do that its called: last run

suicide = go, get killed, log

Just semantics then.

 

[Icebreaker]

Just semantics then.

The problems with forums are you don't have eyecontact or can use bodylanguage while talking to explain stuff. If you don't write it clearly enough you get answers you don't like or people read something out of it you never meant this way.

This wouldn't happen if you could talk to him while drinking a beer together. ^^

 

[Belomar]

This wouldn't happen if you could talk to him while drinking a beer together. ^^

No, then you'd just pour your beer over the other guy and that'd be end of that (friendly talk, that is)!

 

[Straef]

More easy maths:

50 = fuck all
600 = fuck all

I helped you out, Straef, and presented it in a more easily comprehendable manner for all the stupid people who disagree with you.

Lovely.

Give up lads, no matter how well you argument against AC raids and manage to push them up against the wall.. They will just bring in the ultimate counter arguments as:" Im a nice guy in real life" and "I pay my subs, i do as i want" or how about:" Its a 24/7 game lol meight"

Or 'I'll keep on bitching at a realm for as long as I want, and wherever I want, over the doings of a handful of guilds, and don't you dare disagree with me'. Would that work?

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

...or how about:" Its a 24/7 game lol meight"

argh, my mom always told me the servers was closed between 20 and 08

 

[Dakkath]

The problems with forums are you don't have eyecontact or can use bodylanguage while talking to explain stuff. If you don't write it clearly enough you get answers you don't like or people read something out of it you never meant this way.

This wouldn't happen if you could talk to him while drinking a beer together. ^^

Now there we agree

Beers all round!!!

 

[TheBinarySurfer]

Happens a lot. If you never had an "okay, this is our suicide run" that lasts around an hour than you haven't played DAoC.

Think our all-time record for a "suicide run" (me driving us at stupid odds or keep doors/guards while fighting and still survivng somehow stands at about 55 minutes-1 hour mani?

That one time at Bled was just an hour of "dear god SOMETHING please kill us". Then finally maelstrom did

 

[Martok]

Think our all-time record for a "suicide run" (me driving us at stupid odds or keep doors/guards while fighting and still survivng somehow stands at about 55 minutes-1 hour mani?

That one time at Bled was just an hour of "dear god SOMETHING please kill us". Then finally maelstrom did

no hour all time record was when mids had berks m8y and we were just bombing the zergs at the front door for about 1 hour - 1:15, was great fun that night was the night we made 90k old school rp's in an evening evita m8.

anyways back to the topic at hand, we try to suicide but we are not gonna give out free rp's, we will charge against the odds still try to kill things and die by droping stuipid abilitys like banelord ml 8 ect on all tanks in the middle of the zerg leaving us all on 10% hp just a fly can kill us on that low HP out of heal range.

Think at one point i made cinderella want to kill me herself with the way i was charging at everything and she being the only cleirc :worthy:

 

[Behmoth]

That's because they're unable to do so, or they would.

we are able to stop you but a RL demands that we have a bit of a life outside work/doac, so i wouldn't want to get up at 4am just to play a game.

that is the difference!

 

[Behmoth]

Valids point Straef, but we're not talking about the past. This is the present, nobody gives fuck all about what happened two years ago. It's just a fact that two certain albion guilds enjoy pve'ing the relics. This has never been a flame towards the whole realm Albion, but mostly against those guilds

AMEN :worthy:

 

[Straef]

we are able to stop you but a RL demands that we have a bit of a life outside work/doac, so i wouldn't want to get up at 4am just to play a game.

that is the difference!

What difference? ;p You won't find me online in the morning.

 

[Congax]

What difference? ;p You won't find me online in the morning.

Stop taking everything personal, Straefmater!

 

[Sharkith]

That's all very nice etc, Sharkith, but I thought he was referring to Evita?

oops less Magners in the mornings for me.... I remember Evita....

 

[Straef]

Stop taking everything personal, Straefmater!

But it's my 'thing'

 

[Spetsnaz]

<Yawn>...

You'd have thought with the same old crap being thrown about on here for years ppl would be bored of it by now... Obviously not...

As for the laughable suggestion that we (KF along with CM) tried to AC the relic... If you really believe that, then you're stupidier than you look I know most of you don't want the truth because you prefer to whine at the myth but you're getting it anyway.

10:30pm. KF had been running a while, being perma added in the back when we were engaged in grp fights (mostly by hibs). By all accounts, CM were suffering the same.

MSN msgs were sent to various opposing grp members saying that we were pissed off and that if it carried on we'd run as 2fg to even it up. No-one listened, we ran 2fgs. Simple.

A couple of minutes later, our 2fg having wiped forces 2 times larger than our own, those enemy realm grps went into hiding. We roamed for a bit and nothing.

So it's 10:35pm. Those adding on us have been wiped and there's not much going on. It's too early to log so we decide to 'find' some RvR action. Easiest way? Take a tower near a relic as you know that'll make people respond and farm incomming.

So we took and we farmed... Some of the hibs were damn sneaky with their treb placement (hats off to you for that) but we waited outside the tower and killed in open field (sometimes head on, sometimes circling behind).

By 1am most of us were tired so took to trying suicidal rushes, going perma outta cleric range etc but no-one wiped us. Tried this for 40 mins and still alive so we decided to suicide on the keep right next door to the tower. Start hitting the door (CM having driven the one ram all the way from tower X to tower Y) and no-one wipes us... So we get inside, run up top and wait for the wipe. When it finally came in significant numbers, most of us logged.

At no point did the KF GG attack the relic keep or even try to do so, we just knocked on a few tower doors to get the attention of the hibbies who were awake and tried to die at the tower on your doorstep.

As for those whining about the time... Next time if you let me know what time you intend to log from RvR I'll tell all of Albion that they also have to log at that time as as well. We just didn't realise that you controlled the RvR hours in the game and we'll try to stick to your 'officially sanctioned' hours... Maybe we could petition GOA to close the frontier zones during that time...

next time im gonna fraps u just to show what hypo u are (cant expect better from KF or CM i guess):

1) nice story i almost believed it ...

2) at least 10 ppl of u died below T2 Ailine (mostly casters+healers) as they was on the left side of tower and stacked nicly inside twf and we was charging

3) ur tanks managed to get the tower but hibs that was there meleed tower door in less than 20-30 seconds and wiped the ones who managed to get inside.

4) i was leading the Bg at that point and i tell u there was about 15-20 ppl hibs around Ailine of witch i managed to make a small pug with whoever was solo and one more pug group + some solo and from my calculation u had more than 2FG.

5) lol u was wating for some1 to kill u? go at DL and guards will take care of u next time.

6) T2 ailine didnt looked like suiside run (2 warrams used and at least 2 trebs dont recall seeing more as i was busy powerleaksing some sorcs+healers downstairs) and u had wall at Ailine down to 70-80% or less with the trebs u put bechind the T2 ailine.

7) stop being a fucking hypocrit

 

[Brackus]

your so full of shit

Which bit of what I said was shit?

If you notice I never said:
FACT: Albs outnumbered hibs
FACT: Hibs outskilled Albs
FACT: Your not a complete wanker

because I dont know if any of the the above are true

I was saying what I was told

 

[Fuaip]

If you notice I never said:
FACT: Albs outnumbered hibs
FACT: Hibs outskilled Albs

:worthy:

 

[Dakkath]

next time im gonna fraps u just to show what hypo u are (cant expect better from KF or CM i guess):

1) nice story i almost believed it ...

2) at least 10 ppl of u died below T2 Ailine (mostly casters+healers) as they was on the left side of tower and stacked nicly inside twf and we was charging

3) ur tanks managed to get the tower but hibs that was there meleed tower door in less than 20-30 seconds and wiped the ones who managed to get inside.

4) i was leading the Bg at that point and i tell u there was about 15-20 ppl hibs around Ailine of witch i managed to make a small pug with whoever was solo and one more pug group + some solo and from my calculation u had more than 2FG.

5) lol u was wating for some1 to kill u? go at DL and guards will take care of u next time.

6) T2 ailine didnt looked like suiside run (2 warrams used and at least 2 trebs dont recall seeing more as i was busy powerleaksing some sorcs+healers downstairs) and u had wall at Ailine down to 70-80% or less with the trebs u put bechind the T2 ailine.

7) stop being a fucking hypocrit

Spetsnaz, I have no idea who you are, what you play, what you do... Let's face it, I've never even heard of you so if you wanna throw random insults around at me, go for it but they don't mean much to me (with one exception, but we'll get back to that later...)

As far as your responses go, you obviously can't handle the truth. (insert Jack Nicholson moment here). You know what they say, you can lead a horse to water...

So, let's address your comments one by one...

#1 That is my story and it is the truth (like it or not). I posted those comments to specifically refute claims the KF were attempting to AC a relic. From the time I got there at approx 10:35 to the time I left, at 2am none of us made any moves what so ever on the relic keep. (I cannot comment on what went on after as I was not there ofc...)

I have told you what was going on, from the perspective of the KF group. I only speak for the KF group in that time frame. I have no idea about the intentions of any one else, nor can I speak for the actions of anyone after 2am when I finally logged.

#2 I don't understand your issue here, you've not contradicted a single thing I've said...

I have openly said that, to the best of my knowledge, on the tower that we wiped (and most of KF planned to log on) there was one group from KF and one group from CM. I can also confirm that there were 7 of us in grp when we finally attacked that tower to await the wipe. I do not know the positioning of everyone in the grp (although most were on the roof waiting) and I cannot account for the positioning of anyone else so you may well have killed 10 people. I can neither confirm or deny this.

#3 Again, I don't see the problem...

I've said we attacked the tower expecting to be wiped, we got in (which surprised us) and we got wiped by superior numbers. Your self confessed 20 > 15 that I was aware of (1fg +7) and deffinately > than the 7 of KF who were there at the end...

Again you've contradicted nothing I said and brought nothing new to the discussion with that statement. I can't see the point you're trying to make.

#4 You believe there were more than 2fg...

It's possible that a few randoms dropped in on the party, lets face it, the first tower flamed a few times with us attacking (and taking it) then you guys counter attacking. It may have drawn the odd random, I don't know, I'm not the keeper of Albion (nor do I pretend to be), so I'll have take your word for it.

#5 This one has been done to death already... We were ready to wipe at 1am but your little pug bg (no insult intended) kept comming at us, kept feeding us rps and kept us entertained, so we stayed. We attacked the tower, in order to die, when you guys stopped appearing.

#6 That makes no sense tbh, maybe I'm mis-reading it maybe you're unclear... Why would we ram and treb the tower at same time? Even if you are correct that there were 2 war rams on that final tower (which I don't remember at all), why on earth would the albs waste their time trebbing when they could have killed the small trickle of hibs who tried to get into the tower before the rest of you got back there to kill us?

I've already stated that CM had a ram they drove from one tower to another which was used on the tower but I'm not aware of either CM or KF using trebs there.

The only thing I can guess at here, is that you're trying to tell us that Albs were trebbing the main keep from behind the tower. Again, I reiterate the fact that KF had no trebs on us, and that we made no move on the relic keep itself in any way between 10:35pm and 2am UK time.

As for 'it didn't look suicidal to me'. You weren't in the grp, you don't know what our interpretation of a suicide run was. For us, at that time, it was attempting something where the odds are so heavily stacked against us we couldn't reasonably expect to suceed but trying anyway for a laugh before we log, just to see how long we last. The tower attack was suicidal simply because we were expecting to be wiped at any moment but figured it was a good way to go out. If you'd have gotten there 2 mins earlier you'd have killed us 2 mins earlier... But you didn't...

#7 I'm assuming you do actually know the meaning of the word hypocrite so I'm not going to waste my time by providing a definition (much the same as I CBA to attack peoples spelling - what's the point)...

What I don't get is how you can justify that statement. Please, feel free to show me where you believe I was being hypocritical because I just can't see it. Just to cover any possible misuse of the word on your part, I'll end by saying this...

I don't tell people how to play the game.
I don't tell people they should do something one way then go off and do the complete opposite.
I don't mouth off about anyone behind their backs, if I have a problem with someone I say it to their face.
I treat people as they treat me, both in game and IRL.
I don't suffer from blind loyalty, I defend people and their actions (friend or foe) when the accuser is in the wrong.
I do not defend those who are in the wrong (unless it gets physical and there's a real threat undue of harm ofc...)

If you *think* you can prove me wrong then go for it. I'll answer all sensible return posts honestly and openly (what's the point in lying) and will happily reply to any PM U send. If anyone wants to discuss in a civil, constructive manner, this gimme a yell and I'll happily discuss this, or any other matter, via MSN, IRC, a pub and a pint (if you're in the area), whatever. Just let me know...

Finally, the fraps comment... The way I read it, you're esentially insinuating that I'm a liar, and, suggesting that you can get footage to prove it. That's crap and we both know it... I do not lie on FH and I strongly resent any implication that I do... I feel strongly enough and confident enough about that claim to make this little deal with you right here and now, infront of all these FH witnesses...

Fraps me all you like, hell, collect your own little collection of Wisteria fraps porn to disect over sad, lonely nights if you really feel the need... If you manage to capture one, genuine shot of me doing something questionable and then, when asked, see me lie about it on FH, produce that vid for all to see...

Obviously it has to be revevant to a current thread. No footage of something I've allegedly done or said soooo far in the past I have no way of remembering or defending myself against it.

On the day that happens and you can *prove* me to be a liar beyond reasonable doubt, I will leave the FH DAoC community and never return. Concidentally, it'll be very, very cold in hell that day.

 

[Spetsnaz]

and i dont know who are u prollly just got to 50 or something...?

and i still stongly belive u are a liar and sorry but its a fact or...(cheak below)

ps. im the fucking blue/black firby warden cant miss me even if u try (probably u talking about some other event like a year ago or something?)

ps2. anyway u not worth it so enough flaming the liars for today...


ps3. (edit) question why Kupa flush and Custodia malakatana are always running on stick or one is like a bit further from other?

 

[Ging]

and i dont know who are u prollly just got to 50 or something...?

and i still stongly belive u are a liar and sorry but its a fact or...(cheak below)

ps. im the fucking blue/black firby warden cant miss me even if u try (probably u talking about some other event like a year ago or something?)

ps2. anyway u not worth it so enough flaming the liars for today...


ps3. (edit) question why Kupa flush and Custodia malakatana are always running on stick or one is like a bit further from other?

speznaz has got sand in his vagina!

 

[Netcode]

speznaz has got sand in his vagina!

U lajk it vagingy

 

[pip]

speznaz has got sand in his vagina!

its a old remedy from old days for crabs, poor wine on the area and sand, when crabs get drunk they stone each other to death