Remember DoD?

[throdgrain]

If you liked the original DoD, particularly the late betas like me, you might want to have a look at this.

Its called Darkest Hour, a mod for Red Orchestra. It's a bit ugly, but then its an old game engine, but still a good game I think. As it says, you need Red Orchestra to play it, but thats on sale on Steam at the moment for £2.99 which is bloody good value on its own if you ask me, without being able to download another whole game for free too!

Darkest Hour by the way is based on the WW2 Normandy campaign, with British American and German armies. The British guns are realisitic, the voices (amazingly) arn't stupid, it really is kinda good

If you like quake style games where you stand in front of each other with rocket launchers, this aint for you. It's very, very realistic, to the point I think of being a ww2 sim.

Anyway. There you are. A thread from me, a rareity

 

[MYstIC G]

I've been mulling this over for a few days. Is it better than DoD? I liked that but then refused to pay £££ for the "source" version which seemed 100% identical on paper.

Since I feel you too are a bit of a Steamhead now throdders, have you got America's Army 3 on pre-load?

 

[throdgrain]

Well, the thing about beta dod was that it attempted a bit of realism. This went out the window with dod:S. It looks good, I do like it actually, but it's css in WW2 in many ways

This game is very realistic, and plays pretty well, though the graphics are a bit of a blast from the past. People who play Red Orchestra take it pretty seriously. I expect they will take this seriously as well I think for £2.99 it's worth a go.


I was waiting for AA3, didnt know you could get it on steam, so cheers for that, Im downloading now !!

 

[MYstIC G]

It does strike me as a bit of a cross between Operation Flashpoint and Day of Defeat, problem is I get the impression that the Dev's will now squarely only be looking after killing floor. How popular would you say it is throdders?

I figured it was you that would be into AA, my memory is ubervague but I seem to remember playing it like twice and you shooting me in the head both goes I did like AA until it got very "poor mans CS"

 

[throdgrain]

As we speak there's probably 10 40 man servers full, not too bad for a mod thats just come out.

 

[Mabs]

red orchestra is without doubt the BEST fps u can get

the gfx are old, the game however is immense.
Darkest Hour however went badly wrong in the development stage, havent checked it recently, but they really fucked it up

so.

get RO if you havent got it, and give it time. most people hate it for a day or 2 till they get used to it, and by all means try DH, but...

 

[MYstIC G]

But... what... ?

You saying stick to just RO?

 

[Mabs]

But... what... ?

You saying stick to just RO?

they may have since changed it
however, the problem was :

tanks were made realistic.
anyone who knows their WW2 history will know that the axis tanks were very nice, the allied ones were wank.

now put 20v20 on a tank map.. imagine what happens... 35v5 OH LOLOLOLOL etc

non tank servers should be ok, but tanks is what makes RO tbh

 

[throdgrain]

The tanks are fine, they just balance it by having one tiger to 6 shermans, just like they did in history

 

[Mabs]

The tanks are fine, they just balance it by having one tiger to 6 shermans, just like they did in history

you tried to drive a sherman out of a spawn with 2 tigers camping it from the OTHER SIDE OF THE MAP

 

[Mabs]

they seem to have fixed most of the probs, so its rather good now

and for those of you that think "oh it looks a bit dated", i can say only 1 thing

3km x 3km tank maps...
that is all

 

[Ctuchik]

The tanks are fine, they just balance it by having one tiger to 6 shermans, just like they did in history

you just cant make a ww2 multiplayer game realistic when theres tanks involved because the tiger tanks just were THAT good in comparison

theres storys from both the germans and allies of just a few tigers taking out a few platoons of the allies spitwad tanks.

gotta respect something that can take 30+ direct hits, even if it is from the shermans leaf blower


/edit: i'm just bloody happy it werent the soviet we were up against.... that T34 (wich were the only thing that could take the tiger on and win) would have wooped us so bad we'd been speaking rusian now

 

[Jaberwocky]

That's why we Brits added a Firefly to every Sherman squadron, later we developed the Comet and Sabot round to take on the tiger one on one in the latter days of the war.

The Development of the Centurion and the Challenger's, along with American ABRAM M1, echo from the British design ethos than we shall never be so out classes ever again.

 

[Rubber Bullets]

I started playing DoD:S a couple of months ago, almost by accident, and have got strangely hooked. Found quite a nice server to play on, and am having fun. Odd thing is that for the last couple of nights there has been someone called Jupitus on there, but it seems it is not our very own Jup!

RB

 

[00dave]

T34s were mostly effective because they just charged the german lines so quickly the German tanks couldn't get an accurate shot off.
It's a wonder we won the war when you compare our equipment to the germans, a pathetic submachine gun that fell apart, a machine gun that was too accurate for suppresive fire, an anti tank weapon that was basically a spring loaded bomb and only a bolt action rifle. If it weren't for the fact that we're the sneakiest bastards on Earth we'd have been stuffed from the start.

What version was DoD when you could play as the British?

 

[Jaberwocky]

What version was DoD when you could play as the British?

In the Original DoD you could play as the Brits, the Source version is of the "the Yank's won the war single handed" mantra.

I had a quick blast on this mod last night once I crawled in, not much of an indepth test but it seems respectable, game play wise.

 

[00dave]

I meant which version of the original DoD, not sure if I played source or not, I remember playing when omaha beach was a cliff which only 2 entry points and the garand was a recoilless rail gun that pwned all lol. Used to love playing DoD. Sitting in a window with a sniper rifle and waiting was as good as it got, you just don't get the same from CoD.

 

[throdgrain]

you just cant make a ww2 multiplayer game realistic when theres tanks involved because the tiger tanks just were THAT good in comparison

theres storys from both the germans and allies of just a few tigers taking out a few platoons of the allies spitwad tanks.

gotta respect something that can take 30+ direct hits, even if it is from the shermans leaf blower


/edit: i'm just bloody happy it werent the soviet we were up against.... that T34 (wich were the only thing that could take the tiger on and win) would have wooped us so bad we'd been speaking rusian now

That's not really true. The main advantages of the T34 were it's speed its sloping armour (copied on the Panther) and the fact there were millions of them The Tiger gun was far more powerful than the T34s.

The only tank we had that could cut the mustard in fire power against the Tiger was the Sherman Firefly. This was a regular Sherman fitted with a British cannon.

The Yanks didnt want the Firefly though, they preferred the idea of attacking a Tiger with 6 Shermans, knowing full well that the Shermans could flank the Tiger, but only the last 1 or 2 could get behind it. They were quite prepared to sacrifice thier men and tanks to do this.

The British idea was to shoot the fucking thing with a big gun.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherman_Firefly

 

[throdgrain]

I meant which version of the original DoD, not sure if I played source or not, I remember playing when omaha beach was a cliff which only 2 entry points and the garand was a recoilless rail gun that pwned all lol. Used to love playing DoD. Sitting in a window with a sniper rifle and waiting was as good as it got, you just don't get the same from CoD.

Dod with Brits was versions 2.xx

 

[Jaberwocky]

Sitting in a window with a sniper rifle and waiting was as good as it got, you just don't get the same from CoD.

A casual comment by one of the EA higher up's let slip that Dice are indeed working on Battlefield 3, the the old BF games had a nice touch realism, but not too much realism as to make the game bog down or sacrifice enjoyable game play. Perhaps this might fill the void left by the current gen of online FPS games.

 

[00dave]

Do you remember when operation flashpoint came out and we all did a bit of sex wee at the realism. That game changed fps but very rarely gets mentioned.

 

[nath]

Which reminds me - Arma 2 out in a couple of days. I can't ruddy wait.

 

[throdgrain]

Do you remember when operation flashpoint came out and we all did a bit of sex wee at the realism. That game changed fps but very rarely gets mentioned.

Its still installed here I couldnt get into Arma, try as hard as I can

 

[nath]

Have you seen some of the Arma 2 videos though?

Rock, Paper, Shotgun: Broken edit function Bloody Hell: ArmA 2 Vids

Caaaaaant waaaaaaaaaait.

 

[throdgrain]

Yeah looks good I know, only hope it's better than Arma 1

 

[nath]

I hear mixed things, plagued with the same bugs but very good fun. Plus I hear it doesn't need quite as much of a ninja-pc as it would seem from the vids.

 

[00dave]

Its still installed here I couldnt get into Arma, try as hard as I can

Just for old times sakes park a jeep on a hill/mountain, plant charges one one side and see how far you can send it

And wtf is arma?

 

[nath]

Arma is the spiritual sequel to OpFlash, by the same people (Bohemia Interactive) after they lost rights to the name to Codemasters. Arma 2 is just out in a few days and looks lush.

 

[KevinUK]

Arma = Armed Assault. Operation Flashpoint 2 looks rubbish, I'll probably get Arma 2 but want to try a demo first.

The Darkest Hour mod is ok, it's nice to be playing some different maps at least.

 

[Ch3tan]

Do you remember when operation flashpoint came out and we all did a bit of sex wee at the realism. That game changed fps but very rarely gets mentioned.

Are you kidding, it gets mentioned at least once a month, hell it had servers running for it on BW

Waiting for opf 2, and trying to figure out what I can pawn to afford the hardware to run it