Relics In Public CTF Servers?

[old.Rasczak_UK]

I'm fairly new to the UT CTF scene (having now witnessed the final end to QW CTF) so some of you may not appreciate me posting my opinions so soon. However thats never stopped me before so.... is there any chance of adding any of the "Relics" to one or both of the CTF servers? If not all of them how about the four "quake style" ones: strength, regen, haste and resist? I always thought these added so much to QW CTF and Q2 CTF. Perhaps these have been tried, tested and dumped in the past but I've played a number of offline games with them and they seem to add to the gameplay. Any opinions on this?

 

[Wij]

Haste would ruin CTF imo. Flag runners zooming across map double speed :/ Plus no competition/league I know of uses relics so there's not much call for them on public servers. Maybe on a seperate 'FUN' server it would be OK but I doubt it would get used that much.

 

[old.Kez]

argh no, relics are shite :/

the end.

 

[old.Rasczak_UK]

Haste didn't cause any problems in QW or Q2 CTF. Surely this is especially true in TU because the speed difference is balanced out by the fact that pursuers can use the Translocator to keep pace with (and overtake) the flag carrier.

 

[old.Rasczak_UK]

Oops - obviously I meant UT - I really should check things through before hitting submit!

 

[old.[DzR]Castor Troy]

gawd, relics. UT CTF is amazing as it is, if it ain't broke don't fix it, as I always say.

 

[old.Mig]

No relics please
sometimes it's hard to catch up the nme flag carrier with TL, imagine with Haste.......
Besides Vengeance is a bit stupid.

=[SK]=Mig

 

[old.Kez]

and from memory, without dynamic lighting its hard / impossible to see what relic they have, which is a bit stupid really.

blah blah.

it all sucketh

 

[old.Rasczak_UK]

Well it seems no one likes the idea of relics

At the moment though we have at least three Barrysworld UT CTF servers (including the PCF one). Why not try out the third one with Relics - it seems pointless having three servers all similar? If there is a real problem with Haste it can be left out. It's only a suggestion for a trial!

As was stated in another post - there aren't that many good CTF maps (although I agree there are more 'good' UT CTF maps than there 'are' CTF maps in Q3) so adding the new dimension of relics can only add variety in the game. Can't it just be tried and if doesn't work remove them?

 

[old.Rasczak_UK]

In fact if I can just add something (if nothing else it gets my total number of posts figure up ) - Kez in one of your other posts you mention QW CTF was the best to date. I agree. And one of the reasons it worked was because of the runes! And back in those days none of us had fancy graphics cards to show who had what rune - only the sound told us who had what and that was awful on the Soundblaster 16!

I just think adding relics to one (just one!!!) server for a trial period would add some of that great QW CTF gameplay back to online gaming.

 

[Jace]

If the CTF servers were empty all the time then I would be all for trying something new but the last time I checked they are still very popular so to change one server would be to alienate the current users?

Also the runes just don't seem popular in UT, don't forget that UT is not Quakeworld. It is an entirely different game and should find it's own way without falling foul of "it worked in QW so will work in UT" type assumptions.

 

[old.Rasczak_UK]

Yeah to an extent I agree that UT is not QW. That said QW CTF set the standard for CTF which UT has followed. If something worked on QW CTF should it be automatically ruled out for UT CTF?

As for the servers being empty - I disagree. One server is nearly always full but, more often than not, at least one of the other two is empty. Perhaps adding relics to just one would help increase users while still giving the existing users exactly the same setup?

 

[old.Ian]

Have to agree with the others. I've played a bit on a dedicated Face server with relics on, and the Haste/Speed/whatever rune is just silly on that map.

 

[old.Rasczak_UK]

Well I seem to be in a minority of one - so I'll shut up now. It was only an idea anyway.

 

[old.[DzR]Castor Troy]

Ah a man who knows when he's beat - that's what I like to see

 

[old.Kez]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rasczak_UK:
Well I seem to be in a minority of one - so I'll shut up now. It was only an idea anyway.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>It was a fair one, wasn't like you were asking for anything outlandish (Jump match instagib 100% air control fatboyz face only server )

 

[old.Rasczak_UK]

That was going to be my next suggestion

 

[old.[DzR]Castor Troy]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Kez:
(Jump match instagib 100% air control fatboyz face only server )<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>


Now that would be a laff