Relics Held after 12 days of NF.

[Huntingtons]

Those that stayed in Alb got a kick out of beating opposition who possessed not just better setups

which realm has the best setup of? stealthers ;o? i thought that was alb... FG? i recall the alb caster grps are a pain to kill in OF. Best setup i know came from alb. I'd like to see what you based this on 8(

 

[Calo]

So, you reckon Mids/Hibs were skilled in OF?

You don't think it had anything to do with +20% damage?

I really feel sorry for all the clueless Hibs/Mids atm. Not all Albs in OF zerged, and those of us that didn't and instead ran solo/duo/fg in Odins/HW did so knowing that everytime we left atk every single enemy we fought had all the aces. Every single enemy had +20% damage advantage.

Did we whine and quit?

Overall, no. Some less motivated players rerolled Hib/Mid to be uber. Those that stayed in Alb got a kick out of beating opposition who possessed not just better setups but had 20% extra damage.

Feels good killing an enemy who has every advantage.

Look forward to the challenge instead of whining. You might enjoy it!

So your saying now that every mid &hib is not skilled and only albs are skilled? plz explain cause thats what u said.

 

[Flimgoblin]

So your saying now that every mid &hib is not skilled and only albs are skilled? plz explain cause thats what u said.

I think he's saying the realm you pick doesn't make a lot of difference in skill. But that relics and class balance play far more.

 

[Skilgannon]

So your saying now that every mid &hib is not skilled and only albs are skilled? plz explain cause thats what u said.

What I'm saying is simple.

Albion had to RvR in the face of a 20% damage deficit constantly...but we still RvR'd, and not all of us ran in an Emain zerg.

Take the likes of Kagato, Mmmpie et al, running solo against an enemy that starts the fight with a 20% damage advantage.

Alb groups facing enemy groups not only had to win the CC war with no instas, but had to overcome the damage advantage of the enemy.

We still won fights. We didn't just whine and quit.

All we hear from the vast majority of mids here is how now they'll quit. How about getting some steel into your spines and do what Albion did...fight without relics.

 

[Runolas]

Take the likes of Kagato

He's scary without any relics.

 

[Dorin]

Lol, so Hibs did not have "random" mages for about 2 years now nuking you for 500+hp?

yes, still WAY less then alb scout - added pwn billionz of castur adds. Never thought once i will remember Elwizardo hib caster zerg as something nice and easily handable. That was a minor problem compared to albs everywhere current nf status.

And qq'ing about scouts, while a treb can keep a tower/keep walls under constant bombardment... Shows how you guys hate adapting.

not each fooking fight is at keep walls and if so the not fully retarded scouts will move from the bombarded area and keep "fragging".

You joined Midgard/Hibernia to be uber, and now find that you might lose sometimes.

how about, no... ever thought some ppl dislike your realm, just 50% of excalibur does the same towards mid/hib (to make it easier, the players of albion). thats an idiot point glottis and you know it, less ignorant bullshit plz.

 

[highland3r]

stop whinin ffs

cant wait 2 be februari yet cous several mmorph new games r comin out like guildwars , wow etc.....

lets see how goa copes with there pitty game than imo lol

 

[Helme]

stop whinin ffs

cant wait 2 be februari yet cous several mmorph new games r comin out like guildwars , wow etc.....

lets see how goa copes with there pitty game than imo lol

Can you kindly fo with the WoW and guildwars crap none frankly cares if you go there or not.

 

[lathoniel]

u mids have had it on easy mode for so long uve dumped tactics. now when u need em the most u jus whine uve been nerfed. so fecking what, scouts been nerfed forover a year. I DONT CARE ABOUT UR TOONS PROBLEMS! learn some team work. ur uber days are over.

 

[Dathcald]

What I'm saying is simple.

Albion had to RvR in the face of a 20% damage deficit constantly...but we still RvR'd, and not all of us ran in an Emain zerg.

Take the likes of Kagato, Mmmpie et al, running solo against an enemy that starts the fight with a 20% damage advantage.

Alb groups facing enemy groups not only had to win the CC war with no instas, but had to overcome the damage advantage of the enemy.

We still won fights. We didn't just whine and quit.

All we hear from the vast majority of mids here is how now they'll quit. How about getting some steel into your spines and do what Albion did...fight without relics.

Where on earth have you read that the vast majority or "mids here" will quit?

 

[Skilgannon]

Where on earth have you read that the vast majority or "mids here" will quit?

On these forums?

 

[Overpowered]

u mids have had it on easy mode for so long uve dumped tactics. now when u need em the most u jus whine uve been nerfed. so fecking what, scouts been nerfed forover a year. I DONT CARE ABOUT UR TOONS PROBLEMS! learn some team work. ur uber days are over.

Lol, we have tried anything. Siegezergs for cleaning walls, luring u out of keeps and then charged, roaming to lessen your numbers, farming u at towers, attacking u from behind when u try retake towers, camping bridges and chokepoints and alot more. Every single time Albs win quite simply because they got shitloads more ppl then us.
Looks like Prydwen have better pop balance though.. mite go play my 1337 RR7 sorc again there.. or reroll Hib if it still is damn boring.
(btw, scouts can stand at bottom of tower, out of range for any hunter on walls, and kill of the hunter.. now imagine you are the hunter, not the scout.. fun gameplay, eh?)

 

[Aussie]

(btw, scouts can stand at bottom of tower, out of range for any hunter on walls, and kill of the hunter.. now imagine you are the hunter, not the scout.. fun gameplay, eh?)

rofl, retard.

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Lol, we have tried anything. Siegezergs for cleaning walls, luring u out of keeps and then charged, roaming to lessen your numbers, farming u at towers, attacking u from behind when u try retake towers, camping bridges and chokepoints and alot more. Every single time Albs win quite simply because they got shitloads more ppl then us.
Looks like Prydwen have better pop balance though.. mite go play my 1337 RR7 sorc again there.. or reroll Hib if it still is damn boring.
(btw, scouts can stand at bottom of tower, out of range for any hunter on walls, and kill of the hunter.. now imagine you are the hunter, not the scout.. fun gameplay, eh?)

just go to pryd and quit whining - see how long they ca put up with you

At no point did you manage to successfully split Alb forces, deplete them, knock out their port points etc. Most of the above tactics are OF involving what mids like best - mez it then charge wiv da big axe!

Newsflash! Treb>scout!

 

[Overpowered]

rofl, retard.

Still strong words from a guy that could have a macro playing for him.

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Still strong words from a guy that could have a macro playing for him.

Hey - his cat could play for him and it'd still kick your ass ;p

 

[Overpowered]

just go to pryd and quit whining - see how long they ca put up with you

At no point did you manage to successfully split Alb forces, deplete them, knock out their port points etc. Most of the above tactics are OF involving what mids like best - mez it then charge wiv da big axe!

Newsflash! Treb>scout!

Well, the fun thing about NF is that u can get back into action 1 min after u released, even if port points are disabled, thus nomather how many u slaughter the enemy numbers wont be depleted.
If it where so that u had a decent delay on coming back we would have a chance to retake keeps, considering how many times we have mullered shedloads of Albs (I have higher RP income now then I ever had).
Tbh I hardly seen mez used by Mid realmdefence zergs. Healers have poor range and castingspeed on their mez, making them bad for zergs.

 

[Smilewhenyousaythat]

Well, the fun thing about NF is that u can get back into action 1 min after u released, even if port points are disabled, thus nomather how many u slaughter the enemy numbers wont be depleted.
If it where so that u had a decent delay on coming back we would have a chance to retake keeps, considering how many times we have mullered shedloads of Albs (I have higher RP income now then I ever had).
Tbh I hardly seen mez used by Mid realmdefence zergs. Healers have poor range and castingspeed on their mez, making them bad for zergs.

Oh dear gods....

So insta cast speed is too slow for you? And don't whine about range - wth does it matter if you're mezzed at range in a keep standoff - no-ones going to close and twat you.

(And btw - was it Aussies tests that showed spd5+insta could close and cast before a fully toa'd sorc could cast?)

Knock out towers and block docks - you've done it before. Yes some will get through but not enough, and much more slowly. Once you have the edge take it. Hell if you've disabled ports and are making int hard to get in launch a diversionary into Alb. C'mon - you must have half a brain in there to figure some of this out!

 

[Calo]

Oh dear gods....

So insta cast speed is too slow for you? And don't whine about range - wth does it matter if you're mezzed at range in a keep standoff - no-ones going to close and twat you.

(And btw - was it Aussies tests that showed spd5+insta could close and cast before a fully toa'd sorc could cast?)

Knock out towers and block docks - you've done it before. Yes some will get through but not enough, and much more slowly. Once you have the edge take it. Hell if you've disabled ports and are making int hard to get in launch a diversionary into Alb. C'mon - you must have half a brain in there to figure some of this out!

We know this kinda of tricks, well i do but I just cba to make a cg/bg and lead all the things. But then again, i don't mind that u took relics and i said grats for it(well until i got flamed for inc ac's etc like always)

 

[Svartmetall]

wth does it matter if you're mezzed at range in a keep standoff - no-ones going to close and twat you.

They don't need to. The Scout /assistzerg will kill you in 3 seconds, at a range no other archer can manage.

Not a whine, just a statement of fact.

 

[Overpowered]

Oh dear gods....

So insta cast speed is too slow for you? And don't whine about range - wth does it matter if you're mezzed at range in a keep standoff - no-ones going to close and twat you.

(And btw - was it Aussies tests that showed spd5+insta could close and cast before a fully toa'd sorc could cast?)

Think zerg, not emain. Id like to see a insta halt a zerg.. u need mezspam and nice range (limited number of chars have longer range then boltrange.. and amnesia hardly works).. insta stops the first line, the casted mez the second, then someone throws something at boltrange and the bard/healer is mullered. In keep warfare it kinda sucks to stand mezzed out in the open.. and in keepwar range is the key isnt it..

Knock out towers and block docks - you've done it before. Yes some will get through but not enough, and much more slowly. Once you have the edge take it. Hell if you've disabled ports and are making int hard to get in launch a diversionary into Alb. C'mon - you must have half a brain in there to figure some of this out!

Yep, but whatever tower we take and whatever spot we camp you bring 2x as many ppl as we have there. Thus the problem is that u bring twice as many ppl out in the field, not lack of organisation or new thinking from our part.
Check duskwave,
Statistics for server Excalibur
Realms
Albion Hibernia Midgard Total
Characters 11,583 (41%) 7,024 (25%) 9,598 (34%) 28,205
Active Characters 5,076 (43%) 2,848 (24%) 3,918 (33%) 11,842
Level 50's 4,371 (40%) 2,952 (27%) 3,686 (33%) 11,009

Note the "Active Characters." Hope u understand more of the Hib/Mid motives for leaving now.

 

[Dorin]

u mids have had it on easy mode for so long uve dumped tactics. now when u need em the most u jus whine uve been nerfed. so fecking what, scouts been nerfed forover a year. I DONT CARE ABOUT UR TOONS PROBLEMS! learn some team work. ur uber days are over.

every high rr scout is acting like an idiot on excal ?


t_t

btw.: do you have any grp class xpect siege - leech char? speaking of tactics as a fooking stealther is a kinda retarded u know...

di > your leeching abilites still.

 

[Skilgannon]

They don't need to. The Scout /assistzerg will kill you in 3 seconds, at a range no other archer can manage.

Not a whine, just a statement of fact.

You need to get some of your endless hunters and sms to reroll warriors and stick guard on.

You'd be amazed at how good guard is.

Perhaps one of Midgard's current problems is that the Mid zerg seems to consist of loads low RR Hunters/SMs/RMs/Savages, whilst the Alb zerg has a pretty good mix of classes.

Oh, and that most of your high RR casters are running solo/duo caring only about their rps.

 

[TinyPop]

What I'm saying is simple.

Albion had to RvR in the face of a 20% damage deficit constantly...but we still RvR'd, and not all of us ran in an Emain zerg.

Take the likes of Kagato, Mmmpie et al, running solo against an enemy that starts the fight with a 20% damage advantage.

Alb groups facing enemy groups not only had to win the CC war with no instas, but had to overcome the damage advantage of the enemy.

We still won fights. We didn't just whine and quit.

All we hear from the vast majority of mids here is how now they'll quit. How about getting some steel into your spines and do what Albion did...fight without relics.

being ex-alb, i joined mid pre NF - about 1 or 2 months before NF launched, and i agree with alot skilgannon says - alot is v true except about the "did albs whine - no". i dont recall any FH "whines" and if there were - then they were few and far between, but albs did complain in-game.

but thats the thing with albs, they took it on the chin, and got their heads down and got on with it - underpowered from relic loss and also a "struggle" for fotm grps and utility - they still managed to batter mids and get battered more than their fair share.

skill is not sumth u can beat down ppl for - u have it or learn it, mythic have issues they need to fix, but until then - just paly it, if all this rly gets on ur tits, then perhaps the real issue is "why am i playing this game" if these forums consumed so much of your time? a flame is a flame, a put down is a put down from sum1 who doesnt know u, as you them - so why let it matter?.

relic loss is a hurt in realm pride, but its not game-over... it wasnt for albs it wont be for mids, nor hibs for that matter.

revenge is best served cold - so go get it on the field - not here...

 

[Helme]

blablabla whilst the Alb zerg has a pretty good mix of classes.
.

sorc's and scouts?

 

[Skilgannon]

sorc's and scouts?

Alot of them no doubt, but we still seem to have retained a fair few shield tanks.

Now when I run into a Middie keep room to plant twf and bomb all I see is loads of kobbies and dorfs waving their hands in the air like their at an end of term school disco!

 

[Kagato]

He's scary without any relics.

Nerf Vanish

 

[Danya]

Alot of them no doubt, but we still seem to have retained a fair few shield tanks.

Now when I run into a Middie keep room to plant twf and bomb all I see is loads of kobbies and dorfs waving their hands in the air like their at an end of term school disco!

Not seen many shield tanks in alb tbh - mostly various casters and scouts, with some clerics.

 

[lathoniel]

every high rr scout is acting like an idiot on excal ?


t_t

btw.: do you have any grp class xpect siege - leech char? speaking of tactics as a fooking stealther is a kinda retarded u know...

di > your leeching abilites still.

only thing retarded around here is ur grammer. back to school baby.

 

[Aybabtu]

They don't need to. The Scout /assistzerg will kill you in 3 seconds, at a range no other archer can manage.

Not a whine, just a statement of fact.

Then again, if the kill you in 3secs, mezz should be the least of your problems