Regarding "Scamming" Posts

[majik]

Recently there appears to have been an outburst in posts explaining how someone has been scammed of an in game item, or how someone pulled the mob after we wiped etc.

The only way to solve this problem is via goa and saking what they can do about it with your evidence. So the question is "why bother spamming this forum with posts about the event". If you wish to discuss the events happenings with the people that were present, why not use PM's. The usual reason is to warn people, but seriously after 40 whines about BC stealing this and someone stealing that, there is no need to spam this forum any more.

I'm sure im not the only one who despises scamming posts, as they generate endless whine and just end up in post farming threads.

Agree or disagree?

 

[Ixu]

agree.

 

[Archeon]

In a word: Attention.

People want sympathy, in the same way your mother would kiss a cut they want that same feeling and turn to the forums as the best place to get it. There's not 'I wanted to inform people' about it, they just want attention.

If they honestly wanted to inform people they'd add in the 'evidence' that never materialises anyway.


Just my view on it anyway.

 

[Helme]

Agree, but maji are you on drugs mate? you like whinethreads ;p

 

[majik]

Agree, but maji are you on drugs mate? you like whinethreads ;p

Whining about whine threads is far more fotm than just whining....

 

[[NO]Magmatic]

Getting scammed on a trade is the users own responsibility... You accepted the trade, and all trades are final...
So I'd say posts like 'blabla scammed me out of blabla', arent that bad... As GOA wont do anything about trades that have gone wrong...

Arti stealing is another thing, that should go through GOA...

 

[Tiztla]

/disagree, i just love reading whinethreads, it keeps me busy when i am at work for an example

 

[raid]

Getting scammed on a trade is the users own responsibility... You accepted the trade, and all trades are final...
So I'd say posts like 'blabla scammed me out of blabla', arent that bad... As GOA wont do anything about trades that have gone wrong...

Arti stealing is another thing, that should go through GOA...

What he said, if its something like cross-server cash trade where "scamming" is ok by goa's rules, its good to let others know about it.

Then again these "omfg BC stole yet another camped arti" -threads are completely useless, if someone broke the rules just report it to goa.

 

[Cerberos]

Name and shame them in puplic so people get to know these a******.

 

[Castus]

Actually reading Urmes scammed piece on here helped me warn others in Aegir when the same named guys were offering monies on Camlann the other day for trade.

 

[Ixu]

Actually reading Urmes scammed piece on here helped me warn others in Aegir when the same named guys were offering monies on Camlann the other day for trade.

Oki, some post where u REALLY got scammed might be ok, but some: ANOTHER SOJO TOOK SOM !!!111 posts really kick ass. No one doesn't care so just gogogo and send mail to RN if someone break CoC.

 

[Jika]

Idontcare

 

[Naugi]

Like Castus said, knowing who the people are that scam is useful if you want to avoid them yourself or help others avoid them.

On another note, my definition of scamming has always been tricking or deceiving someone out of something they already own - the artifact 'thefts' that are whined about so often arent examples of scamming at all imo, just ignorance and rudeness.

So keep real scammer whines.

 

[majik]

My opinion: If its scamming posts where an account or money irl is threatened etc, then I believe people should be informed, but the majority of posts, <Random person/guild here> stole my <Random artifact here> posts are just pointless.

 

[Shrye]

I actually find this thread utterly useless, even if you can't use the ie. BC whine threads for anything, I've personally used them - if not participating in them directly, at least it's told something about what to expect from their members and their behaviour.

 

[majik]

I actually find this thread utterly useless, even if you can't use the ie. BC whine threads for anything, I've personally used them - if not participating in them directly, at least it's told something about what to expect from their members and their behaviour.

Utterly useless yet you read it and posted in it?
How about someone has a nice big slice of stfu pie?

 

[Xandax]

Utterly useless yet you read it and posted in it?
How about someone has a nice big slice of stfu pie?

Eehh - you asked for people to agree or disagree with your original post, and then when somebody disagrees, you tell them to "stfu"?

 

[majik]

Eehh - you asked for people to agree or disagree with your original post, and then when somebody disagrees, you tell them to "stfu"?

No I ask people their opinions on the posts regarding scammers, not to write on a thread just to say that the thread is pointless, that is what i was refering to in my opening post about post farming.

I think this thread is pointless yet i will post to tell you this as it increases my post count etc.

 

[Nukez]

agree maji!

 

[Xandax]

No I ask people their opinions on the posts regarding scammers, not to write on a thread just to say that the thread is pointless, that is what i was refering to in my opening post about post farming.

I think this thread is pointless yet i will post to tell you this as it increases my post count etc.

Well - he didn't just say it was worthless.
He said it was worthless because he actually used the threads you don't want posted on the forum.
He gave a reason, and you telling him to "stfu" looks as you not wanting to hear his side of the discussion, so you focus on a few words of the post instead of the contex, and respond with such language.

 

[majik]

And for the relevant point he made I'm sure everyone will take in but responding to a post that you think is pointless is the main reason I made this thread...

 

[Xandax]

And for the relevant point he made I'm sure everyone will take in but responding to a post that you think is pointless is the main reason I made this thread...

Then there are ways to explain that withouth using "stfu" (or what else abbrivations people like to use to be abusive to others).
Mostly it just looked like you wanting to quell disagreeing opinnions, because of him explaining why he found it useless.

Besides - you can reply to something useless because it still interests you.
Useless doesn't mean it can't be interesting to people.

 

[Species]

Strongly disagree, warnings should be made allways, just the endless useless replies in these threads are not needed. and shrye was actually expressing his opinion.

 

[majik]

Agree that warnings should be made a few times but seriously the amount of BC whine threads that there are etc, and most of the thread is just +1 replies

And tbh I respect what Shyre said but with most +1 replies come from ppl posting in threads that they find completely useless, which is the issue being discussed... the stfu wasn't meant in a disrespectful way but if we all posted in threads we thought were useless then we'd have the current spam we have atm... Hence my 'harsh' reply.

 

[Shrye]

No I ask people their opinions on the posts regarding scammers, not to write on a thread just to say that the thread is pointless, that is what i was refering to in my opening post about post farming.

I think this thread is pointless yet i will post to tell you this as it increases my post count etc.

What, postfarming? That's a really nice one, do a search on my posts and you'll find that I basically never post in the most blatant post farming threads (Gratz!!111).

And for the relevant point he made I'm sure everyone will take in but responding to a post that you think is pointless is the main reason I made this thread...

I'm not sure if I understand what you wrote correct, however you're complaining about that I ain't making a valid point, because I ain't pointing out exactly what I mean?

If that's the case, then... Just because I get to learn/know something, doesn't a) mean others get the same out of it as me, merely that it's a possibility that some people learns something, b) nor do/did I want to go into a discussion about what I get out of these threads either, else I'd already have elaborated, right?



Seems to me that Xandax hit it pretty accurately, you simply can't have that someone else disagrees with you and what you think is the absolute truth, without resorting to a lower level of debating.

 

[Shrye]

Agree that warnings should be made a few times but seriously the amount of BC whine threads that there are etc, and most of the thread is just +1 replies

And tbh I respect what Shyre said but with most +1 replies come from ppl posting in threads that they find completely useless, which is the issue being discussed... the stfu wasn't meant in a disrespectful way but if we all posted in threads we thought were useless then we'd have the current spam we have atm... Hence my 'harsh' reply.

agree.

Idontcare

Yet you single out me and call my initial reply for a +1? Guess I've wasted enough time in this thread already, gl2u.

 

[majik]

I don't particulary understand what your second post meant, but your point was completely valid, the issue was that people who use threads as post farm usually post in threads that they have little or no interest in.

I didn't say you were a postfarmer etc and tbh I don't really want to know, I was using you as an example, and my 'lower' level of discussion is activated automatically when people say things like you did, "this thread is pointless, so ill post here" sorry but what part of that made any sense at all?

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Scamming posts I do agree with, naming chars responsible can show up hacked accs that ppl might once have trusted, that may have been ebayd, or given to someone less than honest, and gives ppl a general heads up. Shame ppl still fall for it, but hey, one whine "i got raped" thread could save 10 others suffering the same fate.

As for the arti stealing, sorry, this is a public forum and therefore everyone is entitled to say their peice, you dont have to read it, so just dont click any thread entitled "BC does it again" and move your mouse a little lower to a more appealing thread. While 90% of the games populus are honest and willing to share their toys, some are not, and choose to ruin the game for others.

I would love to see the people agreeing here keep schtum when XXX guild does exactly the same to them after many hours waiting for that illusive atrifact to appear, its the same as all those who said they would leave for SWG, bullplop.

 

[Vind]

Useful

Scamming posts might indeed be very usefull, since this is one of the easiest ways of informing large amounts of ppl, who's been scamming or arti-stealing.
Heads up

 

[Mehuge]

Agree that warnings should be made a few times but seriously the amount of BC whine threads that there are etc, and most of the thread is just +1 replies

number of replies is kinda irrelevent, you have a choice not to clicky the thread title and read all the posts

Your not asking for a gentlemens agreement are you?

didnt think we did gentlemens agreements in DAoC universe

its a public forum, ppl can post what they want aslong as its within CoC

imo

** EDIT ** basically agree what Whoodoo said