Realm Rank 12l0 @ 23,3M RPs

wittor

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Vindicator said:
Who says you have to hit rr12 ? Thats a bonus/ reward for doing well or putting time into RvR.

10 realm points wont effect RvR very much espically considering there will be perhaps 1 rr12 in a group if your lucky and ultra rarely MAYBE 2. Over Time ye maybe there will be more rr12's but the other ppl will also be higher RR and they get more abilities Faster because of needing less rps so it all balances out. It's not going to have a huge impact tbh and yet it still gives the ultra high RR's something to Aim for.

i'm just saying 15/16mill would be better :p
 

Dorin

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nobody is unbeatable, not even defender grps >< Anyways my oppinion is +10 realm points (most of us wont be playing daoc when the first rr12l10 grp would roam around imo) wont make that much of a difference (like rr4-5 vs rr8-10 etc), so this wont have that much of an impact on rvsr, just a lil fluff for rr11+ doods oO
The Lord/Lady idea rox :)
 

Alithiel

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If they're going to extend Realm Ranks in this way, I hope they do something to extend/renew the durability of items and armour (particularly artifacts) in RvR...

Dorin said:
The Lord/Lady idea rox :)
I suspect those will be the Albion titles, and that Midgard and Hibernia will get realm specific versions. Maybe Jarl and Cheiftain and whatever the female equivalents of those may be. ;)
 

Dukat

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Gorrion said:
For what i care Realm ranks could be unlimitted, the realm ranks really dont prove or show anything about the chr or player, mostely high realm ranks is gained by the use of buffbot's and by players having no life beside sitting behind the pc and play daoc.
what i find disturbing is that casual players have to endure to look at a neon sign above a no life player saying, im rr12 no life noob, plz, leave that to Duskwave and other realm list's out there.

1. realm ranks prove dedication and/or skill. i dont care what anyone says, to earn that amount of RPS takes some amount of skill.

2. yes bb's are annoying but tbh most ppl use one now, it doesnt mean u cant win against BB'd players 1 on 1.

3. why oh why do you have to start the 'omfg u have no life'. just because someone does somthing well and has achieved somthing, and you havent, you cant stand it and start the idiotic name calling, its pathetic, leave it out tbh.

4. you dont have to look at a rr12 player if you cant stand it, if your too jealous just look else where.

tbh sounds good to me, somthing to aim for.
 

oblimov

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to be honest anyone whos sole goal is to reach RR12 needs to stop and think about whats important in life lol

but then again for the peeps that achieve this they should be rewarded and i think the title is a good idea

also would be good if say you could design your own cloak or something as well or something similar, perhaps a trophy room in the main cities showing the best players statues or something similar?

would be fun idea

but tbh i think it will have the wrong effect on server and probs this will be another nail in the casual player coffin :(
 

Gordonax

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Khefru said:
The downside for me is there was always a motivation to RvR to perhaps get rr11 1 day. If they introduce this, then there is no motivation to 'finnish' the game as the target will be unreachable for 95% of players. The people who are asking for this are those who are in the fantasy land of farming 200-400k rps a week. Wonder how long it will take me on my 30k rps a week to get rr12? :puke:

Many of us lowbies will quit RvR or the game completely. Without the rp fodder like us, who are these rr11's and 12's going to farm with ease then?

Roll on WOW.

I really don't understand this attitude. RR10 is already way beyond what I'm realistically going to get. I play the game for fun, to have fun with my friends, not to get some silly rank or title. I don't see this game as something to be "finished".
 

Gordonax

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oblimov said:
but tbh i think it will have the wrong effect on server and probs this will be another nail in the casual player coffin :(

Disagree. I'm about as casual as they come and it makes no difference to me. I'll never get RR10, let alone 12, because I simply don't play enough. 1vs1, an RR10 already kills me fast. So he'll do it 0.0001 seconds faster? Big deal :)
 

Gordonax

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[TB] Benedictine said:
Erm people who have reached RR10 need motivation to play? :kissit:

But that's the point - the target of RR10 was already unreachable for 95% of players, so how does it affect them to raise it to 12? It doesn't - it affects the people who are already RR10 or close and want a new challenge. That makes it a good thing in my book.
 

Flimgoblin

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omg they increased the RP treadmill! gits!

don't they know the game only starts at RR10L10? now we need to get RR12L0 to compete!
 

Dorin

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Alithiel said:
If they're going to extend Realm Ranks in this way, I hope they do something to extend/renew the durability of items and armour (particularly artifacts) in RvR...

I suspect those will be the Albion titles, and that Midgard and Hibernia will get realm specific versions. Maybe Jarl and Cheiftain and whatever the female equivalents of those may be. ;)

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :((((
 

Brommix

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To be honest i dont see the problem with giving the high RR people an "apple" to chase, people need to chill and not take it personally if someone else want to spend alot of their time in this game.
Also i agree with Garba.... I dont see it being harder now then before toa to take down high RR groups...I remember it being slightly harder before TOA than now..if people want to do the arti and Ml levelling then im quite sure its easier now comperatively.
 

Killrake

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Garbannoch said:
i mean come on most of the regular players are at least RR8 - you really think the difference is so big between rr8 and rr11?

I have never laughed more since I started read BW and FH OMG are u for real?
Womder what planet u are coming from.....

Excalibur
There are 296 lvl 50 RR8+
There are 10642 lvl 50 RR8-

Is that most players?

(info from Duskwave)
 

Asty

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Killrake said:
I have never laughed more since I started read BW and FH OMG are u for real?
Womder what planet u are coming from.....

Excalibur
There are 296 lvl 50 RR8+
There are 10642 lvl 50 RR8-

Is that most players?

(info from Duskwave)

Notice that duskwave figures also include alts.. and garba said regular players so it might not be that far from the truth.
 

Danya

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Also there are more high RRs in hib than the other two realms which may bias Garb's observations somewhat.
 

Ralgedi Smurf

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Phule_Gubben said:
I'd be happy to get 1 mill+ rp on any of my chars.

allrdy at rr5 you are up and running you got a nice basis set of ra's probaly most of the goods once for your class(sos, Gp, pr etc.), after rr5 meny of the small increases suddenly cost more and tbh its not that big a difference.

then 10 pts from rr11 to rr12 is hardly something that will ruin the balance :)
 

Mithryn

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Killrake said:
I have never laughed more since I started read BW and FH OMG are u for real?
Womder what planet u are coming from.....

Excalibur
There are 296 lvl 50 RR8+
There are 10642 lvl 50 RR8-

Is that most players?

(info from Duskwave)

Most REGULAR players. If you go outside of Druim Ligen each night and look at those players running out to Emain day after day, those are RR7-8+ most of them. Thats what Garb ment about regular players, he didnt talk about those people doing PvE most of the time and just crying for groups once a week to get another ability to hit mobs harder. Those that have been on server for 1-2 years and played RvR regularly would have to be awefully bad not to have achieved RR7-8 in that time.

Personally I have been on this server for no more than 4 months. In that time I have close to 1 mill rps, and I play VERY casual RvR, no Emain at all. So for those going out with groups high RR is very attainable.
 

Bracken

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Mithryn said:
Most REGULAR players. If you go outside of Druim Ligen each night and look at those players running out to Emain day after day, those are RR7-8+ most of them. Thats what Garb ment about regular players, he didnt talk about those people doing PvE most of the time and just crying for groups once a week to get another ability to hit mobs harder. Those that have been on server for 1-2 years and played RvR regularly would have to be awefully bad not to have achieved RR7-8 in that time.

Personally I have been on this server for no more than 4 months. In that time I have close to 1 mill rps, and I play VERY casual RvR, no Emain at all. So for those going out with groups high RR is very attainable.

Putting REGULAR in capitals doesn't help. It's still wrong. There may be a higher proportion of Hib players that are rr8, but the reality is the majority of regular players are below rr7 - for a range of reasons. And your condescending comment on those who prefer pve is pathetic.

The bottom line is that there actually isn't really a problem with raising the limit to rr12 - but the rp bonus modifier for lower rr players needs to be increased considerably to justify the effort/ numbers of them it is going to take to have a chance against a rr12 group. 30% at rr1 is way too low. The reward should reflect the difficulty of the encounter - just like any aspect of the game.
 

Maleg

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Q: Will Catacombs raise the Realm Rank level?
A: We are looking at raising the Realm Rank level to 15 in Patch 1.72
Note:
Realm Rank Expansion post on the Herald:
Posted By: Sanya Thomas 2004-09-28 17:12:45
On Saturday at the Roundtable, the guys on the Catacombs panel announced that we were going to extend the Realm Rank levels to fifteen. We warned everyone at the time that things can and will change between then and launch - and here's the first change: After a discussion today, the design team decided to extend the system as far as twelve, not fifteen. I should have the full details of the new system to post for you all tomorrow.
Looks like RR cap will be 1.72 not Catacombs
 

Filip

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Miss said:
Is it Lady for female chars then? :eek6:

Lady Miss would sound a bit funny :p

dont worry i bet you would get the fancy title of...

chieftaness miss....
 

Ilienwyn

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Well, I am quite regular but rr8 is still a dream with the way people don't get reavers into groups for various reasons...
 

Gordonax

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Asty said:
Notice that duskwave figures also include alts.. and garba said regular players so it might not be that far from the truth.

Not even close, unless you define regular as "more than four hours per day, six or more days a week".
 

fl3a

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Arnor said:
first: you get _nothing_ for what you invest, i mean 10rsps (and one word ahead of your name) for 15mill rps, yemk, especially because of the rp penalty system.

well, 10 rsp and a word in front of your name > no reward whatsoever (what it is atm)
 

Gordonax

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Gordonax said:
Not even close, unless you define regular as "more than four hours per day, six or more days a week".

OK, I'm quoting myself here. To explain that a little better...

In order for "most" players to be above RR8, the number of regular players would have to be around 500. Now you can find the number of regular players by looking at the numbers who reached specific RP goals in the last few days.

So I did some diggin around at Camelot-Seer, to find the minimum number of RPs last week which gets us to 500-ish players. That comes to about 40,000. So in other words, in order for the number of RR8 players to become the majority, you have to define a "regular" player as someone earning 40,000 RPS per week (and of course assume that all those RR8s play all the time as well, but we'll ignore that).

The actually average for characters who are level 50, have earned at least 1000 lwrps (to cut out buffbots and crafters) and who've been online "recently" (past couple of days) is... 26,000. And there's about a total of 2,600 of them, across all three realms.

Which I think shows that RR8's are not the majority of regular players. QED. :)
 

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