Rational, Civilized People 1 : 0 Inbred, Bloodthirsty Toffs

Sissyfoo

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Umm...because I think hunting animals for sport/pleasure with dogs OR guns is fucking despicable!
 

gunner440

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er how can you call them inbred and bloodthirsty

i thought it was the "rich, civilised" people that went hunting in the first place
 

Sissyfoo

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Well, the bloodthirsty part is kinda obvious. :rolleyes: I'd hardly call something like foxhunting the act of someone who was 'civilized'.
 

gunner440

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foxhunting well..

it would depend on the point of view i think

i understood it showed a person to be "upper class" back in the day
 

Archeon

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My faith in the British government has been slightly restored.
 

Chronictank

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The same Rational, Civilized People who were attacking police yesterday :roll:
 

Archeon

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Chronictank said:
The same Rational, Civilized People who were attacking police yesterday :roll:

I think you'll find those would be hunt supporters. Not those against it. :rolleyes:
 

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Nice, now can they get around to sorting out extensive NHS Middle management issues and actually recruit more nurses, consultants, GP's, specialists, support staff etc?
 

Archeon

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gunner440 said:
let me guess

all of you are vegetarians

Far from it, but that doesn't mean I think Fox-Hunting isn't sick. Little extract from another post I made about it on a different board...

Archeon said:
Here's something they can do, they can take their dogs to a primary school and sick them on all the little children! Its pretty much the same thing.
I mean the little children will probably one day become Chavs and do more damage than any fox could ever hope to achieve! Get them while their young right?

There is no 'thrill' involved - unless there's somthing about sitting on a horse in a sexy red jacket while a pack of dogs do all the work for you if your idea of a turn on,
There are lots of easier and cheaper ways to solve fox issues on farms,
As for British Tradition, well its also tradition to own slaves and have public exectutions? Is it time to bring those back?

Basically Fox-Hunting is a celebration of human barbarity, if it wasn't for human rights laws you could probably find these twats killing black people and beating their children!

Personally I think the Government were too soft, i've have made a special preserve. Acres and Acres of land dedicated to Human-Hunting. Where packs of starved wolfs are set on humans and chase them across miles of open field until they inevitably tear the bastard to shreads.


Sorry if I seem a little overly passionate about this, but I don't like hunting on a good day - killing for food is one thing, but killing for fun!? Its just another form of cowardice, they don't want to join the army because the army kills things that can kill them back, so they have to go after stuff which can't hurt them back! I wonder if so many people would 'Hunt' if they didn't have guns? Somehow I seriously doubt it would be that many.
 

oblimov

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tbh who gives a shit really

wow a fox survives woo hooo

its so good that these issues are getting rushed through parmliment

i wish this country would look at the real issues such as the rising amount of drug users spoinging off the state, increased teen pregnancy, total lack of respect for people shown by young people today, ned culture, benefit fraud, hospital worries, corrupt politicians etc

they pass one law to keep the irritating lefties happy and everyone forgets the sess pit of shite we live in

god bless this country
 

Lumikki

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Some people actually care about animals.

Why anyone defends such cruelty is beyond me. Butchering innocent animals as a sport is just wrong and nothing justifies that.

Sure there are more important issues to be dealt with but this new law is a nice step forward in general.
 

Loxleyhood

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Really, I don't give a flying fuck. The ban on fox hunting is a cynical ploy to gain ignorant urban votes. I am not a fox, nor do I go hunting (nor would I want to) and thus I do not care. Hunting with dogs is just something that exists, it's been going on since dogs were domesticated. Are you against wolves being reintroduced to Britain? They're going to eat things you know.

There are enough foxes in Britain, and the Mink population is a serious threat to our natural wildlife. Hare hunting I could understand being banned because of the hare's population, but the effects of banning fox hunting will be nothing more than a slight rise in Labour votes?

Civilised people? Don't know about you, but faced with a Fox hunter and an animal rights activist I know who I would choose to spend time with.

edit: Just to point out that MPs have voted on a ban against hunting with dogs, not fox hunting in general.
 

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I just think its bad because the animals don't choose to do it, if 2 people wanna do some really dangerous fighting sport against each other (like some where you can die), as they have agreed to it I think thats fine. But chasing down something that has no chance with a group of 50 people is sucky. Would be fun to do a man hunt sorta thing and chase down some of these 'upper class' fuckers some day ><
 

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Ummm... foxes kill the farmyard animals, so the population has to be kept down.

Banning fox hunting will only bring on the use of traps and guns instead, while at the same time putting a load of people out of jobs, and resigning a heap of dogs to the scrapheap.

It seems to me that the people who want fox hunting banned are the placard waving ponces in the south east of England*. To be honest, I don't really give a shit about the foxes; and I don't see why people should be put out of jobs just so that the government can get some votes from some animal rights activists with their heads stuck up their arses.

* And no, I don't really care if you support the ban and aren't a placard waving ponce from the south east of England.
 

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Reasons to ban hunting with dogs:
To reduce the sporting aspect of hunting. Population control is not supposed to be fun.
To remove an excuse to train animals for violent behaviour. The treatment of hunting dogs is probably not something the RSPCA are too happy about, notably the danger to which they are exposed durring a hunt.

Whether or not you believe fox hunting is nessecary hunting with dogs is not.
 

tRoG

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Alkoran said:
Reasons to ban hunting with dogs:
To reduce the sporting aspect of hunting. Population control is not supposed to be fun.
This I sort of agree with. I'd say that going out and killing them in a cruel way for sport was the real point there - but killing for sport is something I personally enjoy to do. Not without reason, though; I only shoot rabbits (Because they're a pest and eat all our crops) and geese (Because they taste nice).

To remove an excuse to train animals for violent behaviour. The treatment of hunting dogs is probably not something the RSPCA are too happy about, notably the danger to which they are exposed durring a hunt.
This one I'm a bit unsure about. I don't think the dogs are put in much danger during a hunt, since they outnumber the fox 50:1 and have a team of blokes with guns helping them out. Dogs being trained specifically to sniff out and rip lumps out of an animal does irk me somewhat, though. Besides anything else, it means that when the ban is finally in place, all the hounds will be unable to find new homes, so will have to be put down. After all, who's going to want a pet that's spent the last 10 years of it's life attacking things?
 

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Well if it was banned ages ago there would be less dogs like that :p I wouldn't care so much if they just shot the dogs and ye farmers etc have a reason to do it, but the rich motherfuckers who would prolly get raped by a fox 1v1 setting 50 dogs on it to rip it apart, thats not frickin sport :p
 

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i am glad fox hunting has been banned, i do not however believe the hunting of animals should be banned (using rifles etc) tbh an animal that is shot goes through far less trauma than one packed into a meat wagon and taken to an butchers to be smacked in the head by a steal rod.
 

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At last, the only reason for fox hunting was the pest problem. The simple way to get around this is still kill the foxes, but in a more humane way, ie not chase the poor fuckers on horseback with dogs.

About time it was banned!

i'm really stoned - ie, no coherent argument.
 

gunner440

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er "ok"

think of how much food gets wasted on a daily basis

how much of that food consists of meat products

how many animals died for "nothing"

but it's ok cos it's food?
 

Aoami

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who you talking too gunz? dont the spanish only eat tapas anyway?
 

gunner440

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wasn't directed at you

was directed at the one who said it's ok to kill animals .. for food.
 

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About time it was banned, fcking upper class ponces.

Gotta admit tho, was funny watching the old bill take a truncheon or 20 to their heads when they were protestin.

And then they have the audacity to complain about gettin twatted. Yeah, im sure the foxes felt the same way when they were gettin torn from limb to limb too.
 

oblimov

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like raven says

youve gotta think how many wee dogs will be put down cuase of this

Im pretty sure there is some legit reason for the culling of foxes, if i remember they really harm the countryside if in mass numbers

imo if your going to ban fox hunting coz foxes die, should we ban horse and dog racing? where hundreds of animals are put down there and then on the track for not completing a race?

or in greyhound racing where they are thrown live rabbits to rip apart to increase their killer instinct so they "chase" the fake rabbit better?

You cannie just ban one thing and ignore all the others

oh and as far as it being toffs

I dont think all the lackies who look after the horses/hounds, run the stables, manage the hunts, look after the firearms and all that shit are toffs, there just hard working people who will now be out of a job
 

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