Rastafarion

[Osri]

i killed both him and tinky same time...and just got nasty emotes next time rasta met me...not off tinky mind u..

jamie

Cheats imo xD

 

[Suedish]

<sarcasm>
Haha, diving is cheating? Thats pretty fun, maybe someone should send a report to Mythic that it is possible to dive (!) in the water, and thats just so unrealistic that this bug needs to be fixed asap!
</sarcasm>

 

[willowywicca]

<sarcasm>
Haha, diving is cheating? Thats pretty fun, maybe someone should send a report to Mythic that it is possible to dive (!) in the water, and thats just so unrealistic that this bug needs to be fixed asap!
</sarcasm>

It's not cheating, it's just using poorly designed game-code in an unintended manner.. same as how strafing and run-through aren't cheating.

Anyway it's not the fact that you can dive that's unrealistic, it's the inability to attack enemies on the surface when below, or enemies below when you're on the surface which is unrealistic, and which the exploit is taking advantage of..

Was funny watching tinky and rasta doing it tho when they were camping boat dropoff and I landed right in the middle of em, I just sat down cos was pointless fighting back and they were still at it

 

[Suedish]

I very much doubt it that anyone in my guild would use an exploit on purpose, but in this matter i would say its tactics, not bug abuse.

 

[Nausilus^^]

Anyway it's not the fact that you can dive that's unrealistic, it's the inability to attack enemies on the surface when below, or enemies below when you're on the surface which is unrealistic, and which the exploit is taking advantage of..

Agree

 

[Suedish]

I dont quite agree, as far as i know this is exactly how mythic wants it to be (if not, and it has been fixed in an upcoming patch then i truly apologise). And if you play the way mythic "says" is ok, then its not abuse in my opinion.

 

[willowywicca]

I dont quite agree, as far as i know this is exactly how mythic wants it to be (if not, and it has been fixed in an upcoming patch then i truly apologise). And if you play the way mythic "says" is ok, then its not abuse in my opinion.

You then would also think that run-through to completely prevent a caster casting on you is "ok", since mythic haven't fixed that too?

 

[Suedish]

I would go to the extent to say that its not bug abuse, no. I suppose i would be the only one to reason that way however

For me, bug abuse is something that the developers - or any person representing the company has stated is a bug and people still use it. Like this alb i have seen who was standing on a tent pulling loads and loads of mobs when the mobs were unable to hit him.
There's a big difference between bug abuse, and doing what is "not ok" is the eyes of the players. That's what my pathetic explanation above was all about =)

I am not however, going to sit around and just watch when my guild is being accused of bug abusing.

 

[Suedish]

that hard to not camp boat drop off + abuse Dive + outnumber us like fuck to win a fight ye pwned etc Grats to you

I assume PE has never killed a group with lesser numbers than themselves? Or else you would have no ground whatsoever to whine about it ..

 

[Overdriven]

/wub all WoV members =)

 

[Tizu]

i killed both him and tinky same time...and just got nasty emotes next time rasta met me...not off tinky mind u..

jamie

I want to 1 vs 1 you again ~_~

P.s Rasta I dont add on fight's that you/tinky can win. I recall your or tinky adding on a RR4 ranger that popped on me? lol

Anyways nm

 

[Faelinor]

tizu, we were standing by watching the fight, then the rr4 ranger decided not to fight you and started bashing tinky. I said so before in game and told you what happened. When this happened, the ranger was still on around 50% hp, what would you expected to happen? stand idly by while he took more and more % off tinky, or retaliate?

 

[Faelinor]

Willow -imo run through and diving are tools used by melee classes in a caster owned daoc atm. What would you do if you in a similar situation with a melee class and a SM moc'd life tap on you, sit back in your chair and decide "well, ive lost so i may aswell not bother" or try and win? no bug exploits at all are involved, and i honestly can't see why people whine about this, other than the fact that it could mean losing and getting pissed off at that

 

[Overdriven]

One realm person dies: they whine on FH

Repeat for each realm. =)

 

[Nausilus^^]

What's wrong with adding all of a sudden? If I see mids fighting albs/hibs I join in no matter the numbers (ok not always.. I've let a few 1vs1's have their fights without me interrupting before) If ppl don't like adding they should fight a place where they are sure not to get any adds imo

 

[Overdriven]

What's wrong with adding all of a sudden? If I see mids fighting albs/hibs I join in no matter the numbers (ok not always.. I've let a few 1vs1's have their fights without me interrupting before) If ppl don't like adding they should fight a place where they are sure not to get any adds imo

Or in my case just spam AoE dot either way is good

Think it's the fact that you can get a really cool fight then it gets fucked over because of adders who are greedy. =D

 

[Faelinor]

People dont like others adding, as it sort of ruins the fun element for the original people fighting, putting yourself up against others etc if that makes sense.

 

[Arid|Disci]

<sarcasm>
Haha, diving is cheating? Thats pretty fun, maybe someone should send a report to Mythic that it is possible to dive (!) in the water, and thats just so unrealistic that this bug needs to be fixed asap!
</sarcasm>

YES THAT'S WHAT I MENT ? oO lol you got me ther e:<

 

[poisono]

I can beat up Rastafarion in RL if u lot want Only diving he is gonna be doing is into the River in town

Kidding m8e nice to see a Durham person doing well in DAoC again

 

[Suedish]

What's wrong with adding all of a sudden? If I see mids fighting albs/hibs I join in no matter the numbers (ok not always.. I've let a few 1vs1's have their fights without me interrupting before) If ppl don't like adding they should fight a place where they are sure not to get any adds imo

Agreeed.
You all know what the R's stand for in RVR i hope? Its REALM vs realm, not PLAYER vs player.

 

[Suedish]

YES THAT'S WHAT I MENT ? oO lol you got me ther e:<

Haha. /hug

 

[Tizu]

Agreeed.
You all know what the R's stand for in RVR i hope? Its REALM vs realm, not PLAYER vs player.

and on PvP server you still get out numbered lol.

what people are saying is.. the 2 who have started the fight if 1 on1 should be left to fight. ofc heal your realm mate if hes gonna die

 

[Nausilus^^]

I don't give a damn who starts what.. if they're fighting on my turf they should expect me to interfere

 

[Gamah]

I don't give a damn who starts what.. if they're fighting on my turf they should expect me to interfere

Ever thought of moving to Albion? You would make a perfect alb.

 

[Nausilus^^]

Ever thought of moving to Albion? You would make a perfect alb.

Not really, being on same side as you would make me go suicidal, and atm I really don't have a deathwish.

 

[Zebolt]

It's not cheating, it's just using poorly designed game-code in an unintended manner.. same as how strafing and run-through aren't cheating.

How is diving using poorly designed game coding?

It's just as good as running behind an obsticle (like a keep wall), when you dive you are out of sight, the surfice is an obsticle which can't be seen through. It's not the same as run through since then there are no obsticles in the way it's just a poorly designed game code ^^

 

[willowywicca]

How is diving using poorly designed game coding?

It's just as good as running behind an obsticle (like a keep wall), when you dive you are out of sight, the surfice is an obsticle which can't be seen through. It's not the same as run through since then there are no obsticles in the way it's just a poorly designed game code ^^

Why is the surface an obstacle that can't be seen through? I think it's because mythic sucks and couldn't figure out how to program it otherwise.. try going to a swimming pool.. you don't suddenly gain the ability to see through water only after you dive, when you're on the surface you can see through too. similarily, it makes no sense that when you're on the surface with your feet dangling beneath you, that someone underwater couldn't cut them off.. it's just poorly coded that the game has to treat it like a barrier to support the diving action they've implemented.

 

[Dumle]

If Im not mistaken in US beta it was possible to nuke through the surface, however they removed it because ppl were camping beneath bridges and nuking everything going past without even being seen.

Not sure tho but I think I read it somewhere.

 

[Tristessa]

If Im not mistaken in US beta it was possible to nuke through the surface, however they removed it because ppl were camping beneath bridges and nuking everything going past without even being seen.

Not sure tho but I think I read it somewhere.

It's funny though because if it was really like that now, everyone would be like *wtf? Why cant mythic separate above water fights and below water fights so people dont gank us all the time? omg lol mythic sucks at coding*

So basically Mythic would be flamed whatever the circumstance (Not that they dont deserve it anyways though )

 

[Zebolt]

Why is the surface an obstacle that can't be seen through? I think it's because mythic sucks and couldn't figure out how to program it otherwise.. try going to a swimming pool.. you don't suddenly gain the ability to see through water only after you dive, when you're on the surface you can see through too. similarily, it makes no sense that when you're on the surface with your feet dangling beneath you, that someone underwater couldn't cut them off.. it's just poorly coded that the game has to treat it like a barrier to support the diving action they've implemented.

It's just the same as every obsticle if you haven't noticed. If your arm stick out behind a keep wall you can't nuke him.

But yes, I allso think that it's mythics bad coding that they couldn't do the surfice as clear as the water itself. But now that it isn't it is an obsticle and not nearly as same as being out of view in thin air imo nor an abuse at all, it's just as any obsticle. You can't compare everything to real life cuz' it's a game. Maybe we should discuss the fact that maybe using kobolds and inconnu is infact abuse too cuz' they are not big enough to be suited as players in real life