rangers and bow

RandomDotCom

Fledgling Freddie
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so ... omg mates ... gone to the dark side, getting a ranger up (using auto train on bow)

It is going to be a pure sniper (50 bow) with some melee skills (39 pierce 21 Cd i decided on) but i was wondering on what BOW to use.

I looked and the ranger champ bow and it looks mint. 3 TOA bonuses and 9 dex capped, mounted onto a sweet 5.7 draw speed. So is this the bow of choice for rangers now a days?

i will ofc be getting fools bow for hitting doors. This will decrease my dex by 9 when i swap between the 2, but bow skill still capped, but not as my main weapon i dont see this as a problem.

feedback please

and i'm a luri btw

maybe some tips on a template too pleas :x
 

Elkie

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RandomDotCom said:
so ... omg mates ... gone to the dark side, getting a ranger up (using auto train on bow)

It is going to be a pure sniper (50 bow) with some melee skills (39 pierce 21 Cd i decided on) but i was wondering on what BOW to use.

I looked and the ranger champ bow and it looks mint. 3 TOA bonuses and 9 dex capped, mounted onto a sweet 5.7 draw speed. So is this the bow of choice for rangers now a days?

i will ofc be getting fools bow for hitting doors. This will decrease my dex by 9 when i swap between the 2, but bow skill still capped, but not as my main weapon i dont see this as a problem.

feedback please

and i'm a luri btw

maybe some tips on a template too pleas :x


can let my ns get into teh pl grps to tbh:< lol:)

Although i dont know alot about ranger specs and templates but from what ive heard and seen the cl bow is your best option
 

Mastade

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Fooooools bow!

i was dreaming that we were relic raiding alb and had 5fg FB rangers shooting down the relic keep gates.. wooooooooooosh!
 

Deadnala

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My ranger got:

Fools bow - For siege only
Bragarts bow - Before champ bow exist (main bow good damage)
Champ bow - this is now may main bow
Bow of the appolo - this bow got a red dmg add like the one in the pathfinding line

ill share my spec allso: i respeced like 7 times and this come out the best imo

50+15 bow
35+15 stealth
46 pathfinding (red speed, red dmg add, red af that stack)
4+15 celtic dual
rest+15 pierce

mos 4 i go for 5 i can see most stealthers from 1k range or more (must)
aug dex 4 this make you hit critshots over 1k dmg (must)
fe 2 atm i believe (increase crits)


i admit in melee he sucks over RR5 it be beter but im a sniper so i dont care melee
 

Deadnala

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RandomDotCom said:
i will ofc be getting fools bow for hitting doors. This will decrease my dex by 9 when i swap between the 2, but bow skill still capped, but not as my main weapon i dont see this as a problem.

Usualy there are bards with ae end near when you need to shoot towers.
with end you can rapidfire fools on a keep: the rapidfire will drop the dmg a litle and the dex allso but with rapidfire on fools bow procs like mad and its the proc that do the big damage.
 

Kaun_IA

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i used champ bow :) its the best bow imo u can use on a sniper. has nice stats + allso SLOW draw speed... more dmg :)

no need to worry about fools bow tho, ull only use it on doors and its not often u do that :D
 

Fatload BoysDoCry

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Use the champ bow, the 5.7 delay is very very nice. Fools bow for siege and your good to go, those are the only 2 bows i use on my ranger.

This is my 1.84 template.

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Melee
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Config Report

Stats

Str: 75 Int: 0 Hits: 184
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 93 Cha: 0
Qui: 59 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 25 Energy: 32 Crush: 26
Cold: 25 Matter: 25 Thrust: 25 (3)
Heat: 26 Spirit: 29 (5)Slash: 29 (2)

Skills

11 Stealth

7 Recurve Bow

11 Piercing

11 Celtic Dual

Focus

Cap Increases

17 Dexterity

Other Bonuses

50 AF

8 Archery Speed

4 Archery Damage

9 Fatigue

7 Melee Combat Speed

7 Archery Range


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Bow mode
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Config Report

Stats

Str: 75 Int: 0 Hits: 184
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 101 Cha: 0
Qui: 59 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 25 Energy: 32 Crush: 26
Cold: 25 Matter: 25 Thrust: 25 (3)
Heat: 23 Spirit: 29 (5)Slash: 29 (2)

Skills

11 Stealth

11 Recurve Bow

Focus

Cap Increases

26 Dexterity

Other Bonuses

30 AF

11 Archery Speed

7 Archery Damage

9 Fatigue

7 Melee Combat Speed

10 Archery Range

--------------------------------------------
Piece Listing
--------------------------------------------

Chest
Name: Golden Scarab Vest
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 6 Crush
Effect 3: 6 Thrust
Effect 4: 6 Slash
Effect 5: 4 Archery Damage
Effect 6: 4 Archery Range
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 Flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 22 Quickness - 99 Precious Airy Essence
Gem 3: 9 Heat - 99 Polished Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Cold - 99 Flawed Icy Shielding
Utility: 59.33

Head
Name: Winged Helm
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 5 Fatigue
Effect 3: 10 AF
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Spirit
Effect 6: 5 Matter
Effect 7: 15 Strength
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 Perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 19 Dexterity - 99 Faceted Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 22 Quickness - 99 Precious Airy Essence
Gem 4: 5 Heat - 99 Flawed Heated Shielding
Utility: 56.00

Hands
Name: Mariasha's Sharkskin Gloves
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 4 Cold
Effect 2: 4 Heat
Effect 3: 4 Energy
Effect 4: 4 Crush
Effect 5: 4 Thrust
Effect 6: 4 Slash
Effect 7: 3 Archery Speed
Effect 8: 3 Archery Range
Effect 9: 3 Recurve Bow
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 63.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 5 Stealth - 99 Imperfect Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 4 Recurve Bow - 99 Flawed Airy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 5 Cold - 99 Flawed Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Crush - 99 Imperfect Fiery Shielding
Utility: 69.00

Right Hand
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 6 Celtic Dual - 99 Polished Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 5 Piercing - 99 Imperfect Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 7 Dexterity - 99 Rough Vapor Essence
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 59.67

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 6 Piercing - 99 Polished Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 5 Celtic Dual - 99 Imperfect Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 3 Heat - 99 Rough Heated Shielding
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 61.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Name: Dochar Recurve Bow
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Recurve Bow
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 3 Archery Damage
Effect 4: 3 Archery Range
Effect 5: 3 Archery Speed
Effect 6: 9 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Neck
Name: Kraken Beak Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 8 Body
Effect 2: 8 Thrust
Effect 3: 8 Slash
Effect 4: 20 Hits
Effect 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 3 Archery Speed
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 53.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist (stealth)
Level: 46 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 Stealth
Effect 4: 4 Fatigue
Effect 5: 10 AF
Effect 6: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Eerie Darkness Stone
Level: 51 Quality: 89
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 5 Body
Effect 2: 5 Cold
Effect 3: 5 Heat
Effect 4: 5 Energy
Effect 5: 5 Matter
Effect 6: 5 Spirit
Effect 7: 4 Crush
Effect 8: 4 Thrust
Effect 9: 4 Slash
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 84.00

Belt
Name: Belt of Thunder
Level: 49 Quality: 99
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 22 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Body
Effect 3: 8 Energy
Effect 4: 8 Spirit
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 58.67

Right Ring
Name: Zahur's Ring
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Body
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 6 Energy
Effect 4: 6 Matter
Effect 5: 6 Spirit
Effect 6: 60 Hits
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 75.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring of Dances
Level: 51 Quality: 89
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 3 Stealth
Effect 4: 5 Crush
Effect 5: 5 Slash
Effect 6: 10 AF
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 55.00

Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of Rain
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 30 Strength
Effect 2: 9 Matter
Effect 3: 64 Hits
Effect 4: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 54.00

Left Wrist
Name: Shaitan Wind Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 89
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 22 Dexterity
Effect 2: 9 Energy
Effect 3: 10 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 2 Archery Speed
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.67
 

RandomDotCom

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Fatload BoysDoCry said:
Use the champ bow, the 5.7 delay is very very nice. Fools bow for siege and your good to go, those are the only 2 bows i use on my ranger.

This is my 1.84 template.

---------------------------------------------
Melee
---------------------------------------------

Config Report

Stats

Str: 75 Int: 0 Hits: 184
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 93 Cha: 0
Qui: 59 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 25 Energy: 32 Crush: 26
Cold: 25 Matter: 25 Thrust: 25 (3)
Heat: 26 Spirit: 29 (5)Slash: 29 (2)

Skills

11 Stealth

7 Recurve Bow

11 Piercing

11 Celtic Dual

Focus

Cap Increases

17 Dexterity

Other Bonuses

50 AF

8 Archery Speed

4 Archery Damage

9 Fatigue

7 Melee Combat Speed

7 Archery Range


---------------------------------------------
Bow mode
---------------------------------------------

Config Report

Stats

Str: 75 Int: 0 Hits: 184
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 101 Cha: 0
Qui: 59 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 25 Energy: 32 Crush: 26
Cold: 25 Matter: 25 Thrust: 25 (3)
Heat: 23 Spirit: 29 (5)Slash: 29 (2)

Skills

11 Stealth

11 Recurve Bow

Focus

Cap Increases

26 Dexterity

Other Bonuses

30 AF

11 Archery Speed

7 Archery Damage

9 Fatigue

7 Melee Combat Speed

10 Archery Range

--------------------------------------------
Piece Listing
--------------------------------------------

Chest
Name: Golden Scarab Vest
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 6 Crush
Effect 3: 6 Thrust
Effect 4: 6 Slash
Effect 5: 4 Archery Damage
Effect 6: 4 Archery Range
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 36.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 Flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 22 Quickness - 99 Precious Airy Essence
Gem 3: 9 Heat - 99 Polished Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Cold - 99 Flawed Icy Shielding
Utility: 59.33

Head
Name: Winged Helm
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 5 Fatigue
Effect 3: 10 AF
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Spirit
Effect 6: 5 Matter
Effect 7: 15 Strength
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.00

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 Perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 19 Dexterity - 99 Faceted Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 22 Quickness - 99 Precious Airy Essence
Gem 4: 5 Heat - 99 Flawed Heated Shielding
Utility: 56.00

Hands
Name: Mariasha's Sharkskin Gloves
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 4 Cold
Effect 2: 4 Heat
Effect 3: 4 Energy
Effect 4: 4 Crush
Effect 5: 4 Thrust
Effect 6: 4 Slash
Effect 7: 3 Archery Speed
Effect 8: 3 Archery Range
Effect 9: 3 Recurve Bow
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 63.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 5 Stealth - 99 Imperfect Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 4 Recurve Bow - 99 Flawed Airy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 5 Cold - 99 Flawed Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 7 Crush - 99 Imperfect Fiery Shielding
Utility: 69.00

Right Hand
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 6 Celtic Dual - 99 Polished Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 5 Piercing - 99 Imperfect Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 7 Dexterity - 99 Rough Vapor Essence
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 59.67

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 6 Piercing - 99 Polished Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 5 Celtic Dual - 99 Imperfect Icy War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 3 Heat - 99 Rough Heated Shielding
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 61.00

Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Ranged
Name: Dochar Recurve Bow
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Recurve Bow
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 3 Archery Damage
Effect 4: 3 Archery Range
Effect 5: 3 Archery Speed
Effect 6: 9 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Neck
Name: Kraken Beak Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 8 Body
Effect 2: 8 Thrust
Effect 3: 8 Slash
Effect 4: 20 Hits
Effect 5: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 3 Archery Speed
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 53.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist (stealth)
Level: 46 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Quickness
Effect 3: 3 Stealth
Effect 4: 4 Fatigue
Effect 5: 10 AF
Effect 6: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Eerie Darkness Stone
Level: 51 Quality: 89
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 5 Body
Effect 2: 5 Cold
Effect 3: 5 Heat
Effect 4: 5 Energy
Effect 5: 5 Matter
Effect 6: 5 Spirit
Effect 7: 4 Crush
Effect 8: 4 Thrust
Effect 9: 4 Slash
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 84.00

Belt
Name: Belt of Thunder
Level: 49 Quality: 99
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 22 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Body
Effect 3: 8 Energy
Effect 4: 8 Spirit
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 58.67

Right Ring
Name: Zahur's Ring
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 6 Body
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 6 Energy
Effect 4: 6 Matter
Effect 5: 6 Spirit
Effect 6: 60 Hits
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 75.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring of Dances
Level: 51 Quality: 89
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 3 Stealth
Effect 4: 5 Crush
Effect 5: 5 Slash
Effect 6: 10 AF
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 55.00

Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of Rain
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 30 Strength
Effect 2: 9 Matter
Effect 3: 64 Hits
Effect 4: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 54.00

Left Wrist
Name: Shaitan Wind Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 89
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 22 Dexterity
Effect 2: 9 Energy
Effect 3: 10 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 2 Archery Speed
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.67


see, people post these kinds of templates, but i can't raid that often (obviously i've had this week off so been raiding like mad) therefore my chances of being able to ever get something like shaitan wind bracer is almost 0. Kraken beak necklace maybe if someone sold it to me for a fair price, i saw ONE in housing for 20p. i'm not made of money, and this does cause a lot of problems with making 'leet' templates. I can farm zahurs ring, but i've yet to find anyone that will show me the trick Using CT to hold agro
 

Meradesh

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Messages
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Nuxtobatns said:
rangers can spec bow ?? o0o0o0o0

Ofcourse we can! but scouts and hunters overperforms us with bow, said this, hunters must face scouts & minstrels, scouts must face hunters, a ranger must deal with all them, that's 3/5 enemy stealther classes who can negate all our dps (as sniper ranger) with easy.

RandomDotCom, about specs, being hybrid you are gonna die a lot by assasins, I mean as 50 bow you need MoS 5, vs good assasins you will be able to land 1 normal shot and maybe up to 2-3 RF hits (crishot will land only on noobs), many times you won't be able to land a single shot (assasins can spot you at MoS 4 range). So if you are lucky enought you'll have the assasin on you at 60%-70% hps, that's more than enought to wipe a 39 pierc/21cd with low AF (you don't spec high at PF and proly low AF on items), low ToA melee stats ( you are going for archery ToA stats , not melee), no melee RA (you are focusing on MoS5 and archery RA's), and not as many melee toys as a melee ranger would have.
I believe the best spec as sniper ranger is 50 bow 46 path as deadnala told, 46 path increases a lot your bow dmg, when you shot on RF mode you can hit up to 1/2 normal delay up to 1/2 dmg, but this is a nice deal to us rangers, becouse RF does not decrease dmg add spells ( it should, call it a feature or bug), that is an effective 18'8 ranger dmg add when you use rapid fire.
If you pick the banzai sniper spec you must think how you wanna play your sniper:
A)Camping, adding in sight, stick to zergs, towerhuging mode, your bow is Chapion bow, don't worry too much about template, cap archery stats and put orion's belt+snatcher's bracer at template to get +11% rps. you don't need MoS 5, 4 or 3 will do, all the other points to Aug dex & Falcon eye.
B)All around sniper, you must be ready to solo assasins, there are a lot of em around and MoS 5 is not enought to get a good jump on them, put SoM, RoD, Godness Necklace and Cyclops shield (yes your melee won't do nothing for you forget about CD), that's 4 x SL charges, go for MoS 5 and some Long Wind to kite and shot your enemies to death, purge 1 to deal with snare poisons, and archery RA's at the end.
About bows use always fool's bow vs stealthers, when it procs (80%-90%) your target can't restealth in 26 seconds, so he MUST chase you (that's nice to your kite tactics) or be chased and shoted.
To deal with visibles use champion bow, your best weapon to fight mages is your superior range, a nice idea is to get braggart's bow at template too, equip it 30 minuts get 300 arrows and use it only vs mages, it makes a huge diference to fight mages at bridges, then you can come back to the champion bow. Get traittors dagger (the offensive proc can add nice dmg on RF mode) and Golden Spear, just becouse of the charge.
Seriously, the only thing a 50bow 39pierc / 21 cd can do better is to melee scouts, but that's only if they are snipers as you, now go and think, how many scouts you find soloing not being melee specced and then , do you think they won't escape from you easily with slam/Fz/RR5?

Hope it helps you, btw roaming sniper needs a lot of patience bring always a beer and pretty flowers when rvring!
 

Fatload BoysDoCry

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RandomDotCom said:
see, people post these kinds of templates, but i can't raid that often (obviously i've had this week off so been raiding like mad) therefore my chances of being able to ever get something like shaitan wind bracer is almost 0. Kraken beak necklace maybe if someone sold it to me for a fair price, i saw ONE in housing for 20p. i'm not made of money, and this does cause a lot of problems with making 'leet' templates. I can farm zahurs ring, but i've yet to find anyone that will show me the trick Using CT to hold agro

I was in the same boat as you mate, i had no cash and my template is poor, so i made a chanter and got ml10, now i can buy those things. I will happy tell you or show you how to do the zahur thing.

If you farm zahur i am sure you can find people willing to trade zahurs bracer or ring for the wind bracer/kraken necky.

Any questions ask someone in the Second coming for me or pm me and ill help where i can :)
 

Fatload BoysDoCry

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Just to make you aware, since 1.83 killing someone with mos5 is exremely hard, they have to be semi afk to die. I used to be 50 bow 46 pf but noticed that i died many times to people who got to me with 10%hp left and melee'd me down. Going 45 bow 44 thrust is a good option if your auto-trained, with a decent template u should be able to deal with those who get to you on low hp.
 

Meradesh

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Fatload BoysDoCry said:
Just to make you aware, since 1.83 killing someone with mos5 is exremely hard, they have to be semi afk to die. I used to be 50 bow 46 pf but noticed that i died many times to people who got to me with 10%hp left and melee'd me down. Going 45 bow 44 thrust is a good option if your auto-trained, with a decent template u should be able to deal with those who get to you on low hp.
I deal with with em and I'm running CL+self buffs just for fun of the challenge, MoS 5 is to spot your enemy, the other 4xSL charges are to jump on them at a nice range. And I don't mellee at all my 0.0 dps flowers would be ruined smashing enemies with it.
 

Fatload BoysDoCry

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Meradesh said:
I deal with with em and I'm running CL+self buffs just for fun of the challenge, MoS 5 is to spot your enemy, the other 4xSL charges are to jump on them at a nice range. And I don't mellee at all my 0.0 dps flowers would be ruined smashing enemies with it.

Even with SL up an assasin can still use los and vanish, since the armor table changes dps has dropped by quite a bit on the bow line. Only assasins since 1.83 i can kill before they get to me are low rr ones stood still. Good assasins usually get to me and i was 100% bow specced.
 

Meradesh

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Fatload BoysDoCry said:
Even with SL up an assasin can still use los and vanish, since the armor table changes dps has dropped by quite a bit on the bow line. Only assasins since 1.83 i can kill before they get to me are low rr ones stood still. Good assasins usually get to me and i was 100% bow specced.

Agree 100% that's why they must not get to you, that's kite tactics, sprint run and shot, be prey and hunter at a time.
 

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