Ranger Jihad?

[Sharkith]

Been running about on a new ranger for about a month and a half now - he is a gimp and gets owned by just about anything. Other stealthers scare the crap out of me and the only RPs I can get are feeding off the scraps of the table that is the route to and from the zerg - shooting people who are pretty clueless etc etc.

We need a decent Melee option.

I was wondering is anyone else who plays a ranger interested in starting FG+ of rangers in protest at the state of the class?

The idea is to shoot anything on sight and create havoc until Mythic do something about it.

 

[Nate]

Thats what most of them ***** do anyway, I fucking hate archers! They all need to be deleted and removed from the game!!!!!!

Play a NS is you want to melee

Play a Ranger if you're a ****!

 

[Killder]

My Ranger is only useful for PLing lowbie toons, I'd Reroll Scout or Hunter if you wanna play with bows and arrows in RvR

 

[Raven]

I'll join you! Getting pretty fed of Ywain now and all the crappy mini groups running over soloers, would be nice to farm the crap out of them for a bit!

 

[old.Whoodoo]

Ohhhhh a gaggle of luris, yummy, my stealth group like them for breakfast!

 

[Maeloch]

They run US primetime, but worth keeping an eye out on VN for the Navereen Nation stealthzerg events. Last time they had 35-40 stealthers in Bg, vaguely remember mid mini grp chasing me across one of the aggro bridges, then like 20 stealthers pop and insta frag them.

 

[Maeloch]

Run an /as one sharky Sharky Nation!

 

[Dvaerg]

Sharkith you should try to run with my template... i ran only solo and got to 5L2 then had a break and like 120 Solo kills So its not bad, you just need mastery of stealth 5 and stealthlores...

There you go!

Bowless.
can melee too with a leggy blade or pierce no problem to take the last hits, thats what i did

Config Report
Stats
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STR: 39 / 75 INT: 0 / 75 Hits: 381 / 380 (+180) AF: 30/50 
CON: 75 / 75 PIE: 0 / 75 End: 0 / 25 
DEX: 113 / 95 (+20) EMP: 0 / 75 Pow: 0 / 26 
QUI: 22 / 75 CHA: 0 / 75 %PP: 0% / 25% 
Resists
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Body: 26 / 26 Energy: 22 / 26 (+5) Crush: 26 / 26 (+5) 
Cold: 26 / 26 Matter: 23 / 26 Slash: 25 / 26 
Heat: 26 / 26 Spirit: 25 / 26 Thrust: 25 / 26 
Essence: 0 / 26 
Skills
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7 / 11 All Archery Skills
3 / 11 All Magic Skills
7 / 11 Archery
11 / 11 Stealth
Other Bonuses
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10 / 10 Archery and Casting Speed
8 / 10 Archery and Spell Damage
9 / 10 Archery and Spell Range
2 / 10 Melee Combat Speed
2 / 10 Melee Damage
10 / 10 Spell Piercing
2 / 10 Style Damage
Piece Listing
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Chest
Name: GSV
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 15 Dexterity
Slot 2: 6 Crush Resist
Slot 3: 6 Thrust Resist
Slot 4: 6 Slash Resist
Slot 5: 4 Spell Damage
Slot 6: 4 Spell Range
Utility: 46.0
 
Arms
Name: Dragonslayer Nature Cailiocht Arms
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 22 Dexterity
Slot 2: 40 Hits
Slot 3: 5 Heat Resist
Slot 4: 5 Cold Resist
Slot 5: 5 Spirit Resist
Slot 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Slot 7: 1 Casting Speed
Utility: 54.7
 
Head
Name: Crafted Item30
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Overcharge: 5,5
Gem 1: 76 Hits - Perfect Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 9 Body Resist - Polished Dusty Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 13 Constitution - Imperfect Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 7 Matter Resist - Imperfect Earthen Shielding Jewel
Slot 5: 2 Spell Damage - (Crafted Item Bonus)
Utility: 59.7 SC Cost: 46g 65s 80c SC Price: 69g 98s 70c
 
Legs
Name: Astral Reinforced Leggings
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 15 Strength
Slot 2: 15 Dexterity
Slot 3: 15 Constitution
Slot 4: 40 Hits
Slot 5: 10 Dexterity Cap Increase
Slot 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Slot 7: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Slot 8: 2 Melee Damage
Slot 9: 2 Style Damage
Slot 10: 2 Spell Range
Slot 11: 2 Casting Speed
Utility: 40.0
 
Hands
Name: Mariasha's Sharkskin Gloves
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 3 All Archery Skills
Slot 2: 3 Archery Speed
Slot 3: 4 Crush Resist
Slot 4: 4 Thrust Resist
Slot 5: 4 Slash Resist
Slot 6: 3 Archery Range
Slot 7: 4 Heat Resist
Slot 8: 4 Cold Resist
Slot 9: 4 Energy Resist
Utility: 63.0
 
Feet
Name: Crafted Item33
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 Overcharge: 5,5
Gem 1: 5 Thrust Resist - Flawed Airy Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 11 Energy Resist - Faceted Light Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Body Resist - Imperfect Dusty Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 4 Stealth Skill - Flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Slot 5: 15 Constitution - (Crafted Item Bonus)
Utility: 76.0 SC Cost: 20g 16s 80c SC Price: 30g 25s 20c
 
Neck
Name: Goddess' Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 3 Matter Resist
Slot 2: 3 Body Resist
Slot 3: 3 Spirit Resist
Slot 4: 9 Strength
Slot 5: 9 Dexterity
Slot 6: 9 Constitution
Slot 7: 10 AF
Utility: 36.0
 
Cloak
Name: Astral Cloak (Archer)
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 4 All Archery Skills
Slot 2: 4 Stealth Skill
Slot 3: 22 Dexterity
Slot 4: 22 Quickness
Slot 5: 50 Hits
Slot 6: 2 Casting Speed
Slot 7: 5 Spell Piercing
Utility: 81.8
 
Jewel
Name: Tablet of Atlantis
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 2: 5 Spell Piercing
Slot 3: 15 Acuity
Slot 4: 3 All Magic Skills
Slot 5: 40 Hits
Slot 6: 10 AF
Utility: 35.0
 
Belt
Name: Soulbinder's Belt
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 7 Body Resist
Slot 2: 7 Heat Resist
Slot 3: 7 Matter Resist
Slot 4: 7 Energy Resist
Slot 5: 7 Spirit Resist
Slot 6: 7 Cold Resist
Slot 7: 35 Hits
Slot 8: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 92.8
 
Left Ring
Name: Ring of Dances
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 3 Stealth Skill
Slot 2: 15 Strength
Slot 3: 15 Dexterity
Slot 4: 5 Crush Resist
Slot 5: 5 Slash Resist
Slot 6: 10 AF
Utility: 55.0
 
Right Ring
Name: Ring of the Torrent
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 10 Thrust Resist
Slot 2: 10 Slash Resist
Slot 3: 11 Crush Resist
Slot 4: 2 Casting Speed
Utility: 62.0
 
Left Wrist
Name: Hydra Eyes Bracer
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 15 Dexterity
Slot 2: 15 Acuity
Slot 3: 50 Hits
Slot 4: 4 Heat Resist
Slot 5: 4 Cold Resist
Slot 6: 4 Spirit Resist
Slot 7: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Slot 8: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Slot 9: 50 Hits Cap Increase
Slot 10: 2 Spell Damage
Utility: 56.5
 
Right Wrist
Name: Bracelet of Springtime Folly
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Slot 1: 50 Hits Cap Increase
Slot 2: 50 Hits
Slot 3: 6 Cold Resist
Slot 4: 6 Matter Resist
Slot 5: 6 Spirit Resist
Slot 6: 6 Heat Resist
Slot 7: 22 Constitution
Utility: 75.2

 

[Punishment]

My ranger is in a 300p template and i never play it coz its crap

 

[BloodOmen]

Welcome to Dark Age of Healprocalot.

 

[Puppet]

My ranger (RR10L4) has a (much) better template then the one listed (capped STR, DEX, 85 CON, 70 QUI, 375 hits, all resists 23%+) and the only stuff I could beat was much lower RR assassin-trash.

I tried different specs (as high as 44 CD for Frozen Comet and off-evade stun and 50 bow 44 Blades as well) and it barely matters: Most other classes simply have much more DPS and/or much more survivability.

Eventually I realised that ranged is gimped because it only takes 1 interrupt to loose (hello reactive armour-procs interrupting archery!) the interrupt-war and you have nothing like Sureshot/Quickcast to regain the initiative.

Ofcourse if you leech, zerg and don't care running off from melee all the time you might kill a few, but other chars are much better equipped to do that and if you spend so much points in melee it would be nice to be atleast viable in melee to tick off the last 25-30% of an enemy in melee.

So I went to play my Elph Nightshade (RR9 now) and the difference is enormous. Killing in melee is much more easily and even ranged you can do some damage (but even more important: Interrupt enemies instantly at range to closen the gap) and funnily enough you have much better tools to quickly kill before the cavalry arrives.

I don't think EA will restore old ranger-supremacy and they don't have to; but they gotta give us something. Both scouts and hunters are much better and can with lame tools (engage, dog-kiting) do a lot better then our current 'supreme melee' which is complete and utter wank with the changes to it.

It is kinda funny a hunter is better at archery and at melee then a ranger. Time will tell what they throw us to be (more) competative but I ain't holding my breath and will play other chars in the mean-time.

 

[Sharkith]

Puppet have you got MOCIII?

 

[Puppet]

Puppet have you got MOCIII?

No I don't. I never really tried MoC on my ranger to be fair; dunno I never got around speccing it. I suppose it's a win against non-shield classes; but with Mos5, Purge3 and IP2 you don't really have the points to get MoC3, so would need to drop something (Purge to 2 or something :X )

I think MoC3 is a band-aid around the interrupting-problem we face against casters (also the fact Critshot does not remove BT; so next arrow goes into the BT). A decent equipped caster has too much HP to reliably kill with 3 arrows shot, you will need *atleast* to shoot 4 times and most likely 5x. That's too much considering the caster can just /face QC CC or Nearsight and then blow us up in considerable less time then firing 5 arrows.

Perhaps it's an idea for EA to replace one of the 4 useless shots (Acid Shot, Poisoned Shot, Cold Shot and Fire Shot) with a Sure Shot which is an uninterruptable shot doing same ~same damage as a Standard Shot on a fast cast (as fast as PB shot). Give it a 15 sec CD and atleast we got a way to counter casters without the need to blow more then Purge after their QC

Then again, the 'general feeling' of how the ranger performs is just bad in my eyes currently, so they need to give us something *really* good to make me play my ranger over my shade atm.

 

[Soulja_IA_]

Been saying it for ages now Rangers are completely useless unless zerg surfing.

At least give something to Rangers to put on par with other ranged classes.


Soulja

 

[Tuthmes]

Been saying it for ages now Rangers are completely useless unless zerg surfing.

At least give something to Rangers to put on par with other ranged classes.


Soulja

You're just looking for an excuse to zerg.

 

[Punishment]

I must say tho ive been trying to solo on my low rr alb visuals mainly the last few weeks as im taking a break form my hibs and formign a zerg of rangers isnt gonna help anyone out longterm , its basically saying i cant compete so im gonna clusterfuck anyone i come across , my rr3 arms got beaten soundly by a kite+bow rr4 ranger this afternoon , fair enough i almost 3 shot him in melee but he used his tools and won and kudos for that

If you arent enjoying the class play another imo

 

[Tuthmes]

If you arent enjoying the class play another imo

You mean jump on the FotM bandwagon, like everyone else does.

 

[Punishment]

Hardly if i was playing fotm id be on my shade surely

I play for fun so instead im on my rr3 arms and rr3 sorc soloing

 

[Sharkith]

I must say tho ive been trying to solo on my low rr alb visuals mainly the last few weeks as im taking a break form my hibs and formign a zerg of rangers isnt gonna help anyone out longterm , its basically saying i cant compete so im gonna clusterfuck anyone i come across , my rr3 arms got beaten soundly by a kite+bow rr4 ranger this afternoon , fair enough i almost 3 shot him in melee but he used his tools and won and kudos for that

If you arent enjoying the class play another imo

Change the RR balance and you would have ripped him a new one. Truth is some of us have limited time to kit toons out and so rolling new ones and becoming one of the many realm hoppers is not really an option.

As for a ranger Jihad - truth is rangers have no choice. I can kill stuff solo but usually those players are clueless. Meet someone with half a brain and you die every time.

I just think it would be amusing to group and watch the whine from others who are getting ganked by them. Four rangers can kill most small man groups.

 

[eble]

dropped my ranger and rolled a warlock

 

[Punishment]

Change the RR balance and you would have ripped him a new one. Truth is some of us have limited time to kit toons out and so rolling new ones and becoming one of the many realm hoppers is not really an option.

As for a ranger Jihad - truth is rangers have no choice. I can kill stuff solo but usually those players are clueless. Meet someone with half a brain and you die every time.

I just think it would be amusing to group and watch the whine from others who are getting ganked by them. Four rangers can kill most small man groups.

Wow so let me sum this up , im a realm hopper with too much time and that makes it ok to make a rangerzerg and wait at agramon bridge for one of the few solo people left just so see them whine ..... ok

 

[Congax]

four rangers can kill most small man groups.

 

[Genedril]

I'm happy as hell that Punish didn't do the abridging of Uni texts I had to use way back when.

 

[Sharkith]

So am I!

Punishment I wasn't talking about you - no need to take things personal!

If I had a group of rangers they would not be looking for soloers on Agramon bridges - I can promise you that....

 

[Punishment]

So am I!

Punishment I wasn't talking about you - no need to take things personal!

If I had a group of rangers they would not be looking for soloers on Agramon bridges - I can promise you that....

Im just being a dick looking for a reaction ignore me

 

[Nate]

And if this dick doesn't fuck this asshole, we'll all be covered in shit....

 

[Tuthmes]

Nate Dizzle put the pieces to the pizzle!

 

[Nate]

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[Tuthmes]

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[Nate]

Fo sho lizzle doggizle