Range Debuff (or nearsight)

[Hellfire.Bane]

Just wanted to hear from any of the many fire wizzes i have cut off in mid bolt cast with my 2 second 65% range debuff. Do any alb classes get a nearsight ability ??


It makes me laugh, but not u guys i expect, as your casting range is reduced to the same distance i can shot put a Troll.

I think its a terribly underated weapon in RVR, but then thats my biased opinion as what seems to be the only active Light eld in Hib.



Horatio lvl 49 Light mage of the Sacred Nuts (at time of print)

 

[Fafnir]

Some of you hibs really love that nearsight, some hibs in thid chaincasted it on my warrior.

 

[old.Chavez]

They dont have nearsight....as the only freaking bolt caster in daoc they dont.

 

[Fafnir]

A small typo there, i know saracens etc. is not hibs but albs...

 

[- Pathfinder -]

We do have nearsight. On the most impopular class of them all. The fact that Hibs/Mids have it on popular classes says it all

 

[Myshra]

i cry when i get nearsighted, you dont know how worthless it makes me

im gonna have to go around with glut now so that he can get some revenge for me.

 

[kr0n]

Alb nearsight = CABALIST <<<-- !!!!!!!

Nearsight is the most lam0r, overpowered, only for gimps, stupid spell in the game after instalullaby.

Overpowered I say. Nerf.

 

[old.Bubble]

Yeah i know what you mean
you nearsighted me in yggdra lst night..u purged and nearsighted you

is a bit unfair that albion's gimp caster gets it (well they are gimp compaired to Eldys and runies)

 

[old.k70]

All i can say is: NERF

Huge range, long duration, fast casting, lower powercost and on top of all no cure spell for it.

Ridiculously overpowered. Totally fubar.

 

[old.Eynar_Vega]

Originally posted by - Pathfinder -
We do have nearsight. On the most impopular class of them all. The fact that Hibs/Mids have it on popular classes says it all

Be Happy, in Midgard the most impopular class is our secondary CC class ffs...

 

[VidX]

Originally posted by old.Bubble

is a bit unfair that albion's gimp caster gets it (well they are gimp compaired to Eldys and runies)

Have you had a Juggernaut run at you?

EEK! RUN AWAY!

/em wants a massive lvl 50 Underhill Zealot

 

[old.Chavez]

As if your NUKING PETS THAT HAS UNLIMITED MANA AND IGNORES LOS WITH ITS NUKES is not good enough (well atleast next patch they are)

 

[old.Bubble]

enchanter pets are badass already

 

[Hellfire.Bane]

Nearsight continued

How did i no that there was gonna be, blah blah overpowered blah blah nerf etc.


gues u cant have any class or ability without someone disliking it, anyway a few points to clarify.

long range = yes 2300, fast casting = yes 2 secs dead.

long lasting = debatable if 2 mins is a long time, in some battles maybe.


what you may fail to see is that i have given up a few things to go with a light eldritch, namely uber bolts, and ranged AoE DD, as this is the void spec line that most (but not all) elds go for.

However on the upside i do get an AE mezz, a fast casting low power using high damage output targetted DD as well as the range debuff. Oh yes and a very big qui/dex debuff, which i have never used in rvr. so u see to get range debuff in hib (to a respectable lvl, ie max in light spec.) u do have to give up some other tools.

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by old.Eynar_Vega


Be Happy, in Midgard the most impopular class is our secondary CC class ffs...

and what do you need a Secondary CC for ? when your primary got Instan AoE CC ( only class in Daoc with AoE stun ), chain, instant heal ( self and group ) etc etc.. could go on for ever, but would probably only end with a Nerf healer comment so I stop there... ( oh and how usual do you think Albions Primary CC are ? )

And about the nearsight, dunno what Mythic been smokein when they came up with the great idea, hey let's give Bolt casters Near sight, anyway must've weard off when they came to Albion....

 

[Hellfire.Bane]

erm hello bubble, did u not read the previous post, if u have range debuff u dont get bolts, only DD,

I suggest u read b4 posting.

enough said

 

[old.Atrox]

Originally posted by Hellfire.Bane
erm hello bubble, did u not read the previous post, if u have range debuff u dont get bolts, only DD,

I suggest u read b4 posting.

enough said

Way of the Sun Shadow Control (Specialization)
10 Enemy Negate Sight 120 Sec 2 Sec - 4 P
40 Enemy Abrogate Sight 120 Sec 2 Sec - 20 P
Cold | Range : 2300

Way of the Eclipse
46 Enemy Void Abyss 239 D 4 Sec - 30 P
Cold | Range : 1875 | Recast : 20 sec

So if you spec so you get the Nearsight, you lose your Free ( none spec ) Bolt ?

 

[Danya]

You can have the lowest level nearsight and still have both bolts. The lowest level of nearsight is a 45% debuff (iirc). That's hardly a small amount...

 

[Hufner]

True Dannyn, and as runies have no big incentive of maxing RC past 47 (highest bolt) you can easily put the last points and get 26 in Supp and therefore get the lowest range debuff...

Not that I'm complaining

 

[old.Atrox]

and almost every single Runie ( rc or not ) spec 26 Sup to get the 10sec PBT

 

[Hellfire.Bane]

the saga continues

a few points....


the lowest lvl nearsight is 25%, then it goes up in 10% steps to 65%


the standard bolt (eclipse line) i have never used after the 1st couple of tries in rvr for one reason.... because its total shit. it hits about as hard as a wet paper bag, and is blocked or partially blocked 50% of the time (even when target not in melee).

my lvl 15 DD hits harder than the lvl 46 eclipse line bolt in rvr, so it may as well not be there.

I use the sun line DD occasionally, and the light spec DD mostly

only void spec bolts actually hit hard.

 

[Myshra]

the arguement that stood was wizards are pure damage no support, ok fair enough but a 2 min duration??? serveral thoughts from the wiz community who seem to be the worst effected was that it should be a poison, and therefore curable as 2 mins is effectivly, battle over for us.

when you say 25% debuff is nothing, think this

my normal bolt range: 1850

1850x0.75 = 1387

thats less than my DD, god help me if i get hit by a harder one

if im pure damage id at least expect to be able to do 20% more damage than ANY other mage class as i dont get chuff all in return.

if you ask me nearsight should be put in the wiz earth line as well

 

[old.mattshanes]

Nearsight(whatever its called) is the biggest load of bullshit in the game,also has everyone noticed how quick hibs/mids casters cast to alb ones?and it seems as if hibs have unlimited mana.

 

[Pixie.Pebr]

Lets just nerf away _all_ abilities from _all_ classes.
Give everyone a non-speccable staff ability and then go out and bash.

Oh, wait, that would be boring...
Maybe thats why different classes got _different_ abilities?
Maybe thats why we are supposed to _cooperate_ when RvRing, not running around trying to be übersolo?

Fact 1 (and it has been said before):
There are no bad classes, only bad players.
Fact 2 (has been said before as well):
DAoC is a cooperative game. The diff classes' strength show its full potential when used in a _team_, not when running around solo.

 

[old.Atrox]

Nearsight should be cureable ( w/o useing Purge ) and it should'nt be on a Bolt char, Nearsight should be on the "Pet mage's" ( Spiritmaster/Cabalist/Enchanter ) as an defence against the long range attacks, near sight a 1500 range caster and you'll out of range for him in a staff fight ffs.

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by old.pebr
Lets just nerf away _all_ abilities from _all_ classes.
Give everyone a non-speccable staff ability and then go out and bash.

Oh, wait, that would be boring...
Maybe thats why different classes got _different_ abilities?
Maybe thats why we are supposed to _cooperate_ when RvRing, not running around trying to be übersolo?

Fact 1 (and it has been said before):
There are no bad classes, only bad players.
Fact 2 (has been said before as well):
DAoC is a cooperative game. The diff classes' strength show its full potential when used in a _team_, not when running around solo.

True graham but when you have spent ages getting lv50 with your char then realising other casters kick you ass most the time because they are simply better,you do intend to have a moan i guess

 

[VidX]

Originally posted by old.Atrox
Nearsight should be cureable ( w/o useing Purge ) and it should'nt be on a Bolt char, Nearsight should be on the "Pet mage's" ( Spiritmaster/Cabalist/Enchanter ) as an defence against the long range attacks,

Yeah yeah yeah!
Gimme!

/em would think that would be nice for enchies

Range debuff Wizzie/Runie, pet, target tank, stun, heat debuff, DD, DD, DD

Nice, like the sound of that

 

[Myshra]

dont give it to them, i started a mana chanter on excal (Loraine Kelly if you run into her, say hi) and they are stupidly overpowered compared to my wizard (cue flame)

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by vidx

Yeah yeah yeah!
Gimme!

/em would think that would be nice for enchies

Range debuff Wizzie/Runie, pet, target tank, stun, heat debuff, DD, DD, DD

Nice, like the sound of that

Hey usp do runemasters have more spells then what you have?they seem to have every spell there is

 

[Hellfire.Bane]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Nearsight(whatever its called) is the biggest load of bullshit in the game,also has everyone noticed how quick hibs/mids casters cast to alb ones?and it seems as if hibs have unlimited mana.

we seem to have unlimited mana because we got mentalists giving us 4 or 5 X mana regen, or bard power song.

our bolt casters have the same time as all bolt classes = 4 secs

my light DD is 2.6 seconds.

however i can get it to 2 secs dead with my dex buffed to 290 mark, and 2 lvls of RA in mastery of the art.

I suggest if u want to cast faster get your dex sorted out or buffed, it makes a large difference to cast times when it approaches the 300 mark.