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[Scouse]

Couldn't you just have said fuck off - bury it in the street?

 

[Deebs]

You don't think that Labour telling you that they're banning disposable barbecues across the UK is a political statement designed to show the entire population that the "government is acting responsibly"?

Is the information that they're banning disposable barbecues useful to you in a direct and targetted emergency message that is designed for you to be able to take action to protect your life?

I will tell you this about the alert, I didn't think once about politics but rather how they managed to send millions of text messages in a short amount of time. Some people need telling and if it helps to stop fires across the dry land then go for it, it is cheaper than attempting to put out fires, damage and loss of life.

Unlike you I can detach myself from seeing politics in everything that happens around me.

 

[gunner440]

Two things here come to mind:

1) If it was an emergency, then that alert didn't have the desired result - you should have jumped up and taken the necessary action to preserve your life (which is what we were told these alerts were setup for).
2) Was it direct and targetted to your area? Useful for you, or just generic?

Ours are supposed to be targetted to particular mobile masts in the areas that are under imminent and direct threat, but they're being used for party political broadcasts at the moment.

It targetted the affected areas of Andalucia. The message was to avoid leaving your house unless in an emergency as they were expecting the roads to be too dangerous which would have knock on effects on the other roads and safety services.

I mean it was raining a lot (moderate to higher moderate) over a long period of time being "a long period of time" the key issue in our case and our infrastructure couldn't cope. That's before considering some of the countryside areas getting flooded and a lot of erosion being caused on the mountain roads causing a lot of landslides. Some key mountain roads here were closed for months due to the extent of the damage.

To be fair I'm happy it was sent out. From my window it didn't look too bad but the roads were a mess and some of them definitely dangerous.

That's the first one I've ever received since moving back in 2012 and to be fair it's the only time I feel an alert message like that would have been warranted so while I wasn't sure what the hell was going on, I do think the message at the time was a good thing.

 

[Scouse]

@Deebs - it's the "get out of your house NOW" emergency alert system.

So people are turning it off.

It targetted the affected areas of Andalucia. The message was to avoid leaving your house unless in an emergency as they were expecting the roads to be too dangerous which would have knock on effects on the other roads and safety services.

Perfect

That's what it's for. "Stay at home - it's dangerous around you right now".

 

[DaGaffer]

Couldn't you just have said fuck off - bury it in the street?

That was my first question and...that's not the way it works in Ireland, and especially in VM areas.

 

[Deebs]

@Deebs - it's the "get out of your house NOW" emergency alert system.

So people are turning it off.


Perfect

That's what it's for. "Stay at home - it's dangerous around you right now".

Ah apologies I don't recall getting that message, only the one about the fires.

 

[Gwadien]

It was purely political.

The vast majority of people turned it off because Reform and GB News were outraged by it.

But obviously if there's a more serious emergency, it'll be Labour's fault that people turned it off, not Reform or GB News.

Also love people saying it cost us millions, it cost nothing. (Other than setting up the messaging system in the first place).

If people wanna turn it off and they get burnt by it, so be it, they made the choice.

I'd love to bookmark this post for the next couple of summers where the 'Government didn't do enough'. Fuck Labour for trying to prevent further stretching of limited resources of firefighters that were fighting fires far from home.

Imagine the the story after the summer we've had being about how bad Labour are for sending out a message, and not we should do more about climate change. It's almost as if certain people have had their way.

 

[Scouse]

The vast majority of people turned it off because Reform and GB News were outraged by it.

You're such a victim. Blaming Reform and GB News for everyone's outrage.

I'm not a reform voter and I've never watched GB News in my life - and I turned off the system looooooong ago. Because I knew this sort of shit would happen.

But this tranche of people turning it off? Labour through and through - it's meant for LOCAL EMERGENCIES.


There's multiple news channels - including your beloved GB News - for this sort of messaging. But no, the nanny-state cucks are fucking loving it.

Edit: Was the message LOCAL, and an EMERGENCY that you could do something about, or was it not? <Go on. Answer it.

It's pretty fucking simple cut-and-dried abuse of a system, with a predictable outcome - turn the fucking pointless invasive waste of time off and leave the retards who feel warm and fuzzy about idiot messages to receive them.

 

[Scouse]

Imagine the the story after the summer we've had being about how bad Labour are for sending out a message, and not we should do more about climate change. It's almost as if certain people have had their way.

Burnham's flirting with more drilling.

If he presses go, then you can't blame anyone but Labour for that.

Exactly like Biden did...

 

[Gwadien]

You're such a victim. Blaming Reform and GB News for everyone's outrage.

I'm not a reform voter and I've never watched GB News in my life - and I turned off the system looooooong ago. Because I knew this sort of shit would happen.

But this tranche of people turning it off? Labour through and through - it's meant for LOCAL EMERGENCIES.


There's multiple news channels - including your beloved GB News - for this sort of messaging. But no, the nanny-state cucks are fucking loving it.

Edit: Was the message LOCAL, and an EMERGENCY that you could do something about, or was it not? <Go on. Answer it.

It's pretty fucking simple cut-and-dried abuse of a system, with a predictable outcome - turn the fucking pointless invasive waste of time off and leave the retards who feel warm and fuzzy about idiot messages to receive them.

I know you're not a Reform voter, you're a Reform apologist, because you refuse to accept there's things going on outside if your bubble.

GB News is the most popular 'news' or 'entertainment company' out there, what do they pedal? They pedal that the BBC is woke and left wing so you shouldn't watch it. What don't they talk about? Climate change, why? Because it's in their overlords interest NOT to talk about it - so the whole idea people would hear 'don't set fires' on GB News is utterly bullshit, along with all of the other right wing social media outlets, which MASSIVELY outweigh anything centre ground. (Yes, centre ground, not radical far left wing Marxists, or whatever the far-right describe the BBC as.)

I still admire your faith in people that you think that everyone is clever enough to not set fires when it's really dry - but why else would they? Fires are the fault of Labour and their failings, not because of climate change. So yes people could absolutely do something about it as an emergency, by not setting fires.

It perfectly explains why Labour aren't bothering about climate change and are going for drill baby drill - because the people have been convinced that short-term gains by making more money outweigh destroying the planet.

Anyway, I'm not engaging with this anymore, it's pathetic. If people wanna turn off their notifications because they bow down to Farage and friends or because they think a message on their phone is the deep state spying on them, go for it.

 

[Scouse]

I still admire your faith in people that you think that everyone is clever enough to not set fires when it's really dry

No. I think that 50% of the population have an IQ of less than 100.

We're beset on all sides by knuckle-dragging retards. 100 ain't nothing to write home about.

But the existence of retards does not give Labour carte-blanche to start nanny-stating the whole country. They can get in a hole and die - because a life free from government interference is a right.


I'm taking your answer fully as NO it wasn't local. It wasn't a local emergency that enabled people to do something to save their life. It wasn't a "get out of your house" message - or @gunner440's - "stay inside, there's local flooding and it's dangerous".

But you don't care about that. You're a nanny-statist that thinks you've the right to disturb everyone because of the existence of retards.

It perfectly explains why Labour aren't bothering about climate change and are going for drill baby drill - because the people have been convinced that short-term gains by making more money outweigh destroying the planet.

So, what you're saying is that Labour are spineless, weak and have no backbone.

Government should do the right thing.

Anyway, I'm not engaging with this anymore, it's pathetic.

You didn't engage. You refused to answer the question. You always refuse to answer the question. No matter how simple it is.

 

[gunner440]

But the existence of retards does not give Labour carte-blanche to start nanny-stating the whole country. They can get in a hole and die - because a life free from government interference is a right.

I'm against the government in a lot of ways over here but I'd like to think the risk of fires here is greater in my part of the world but no one would tolerate the public bodies interfering with whether we could have barbecues at home or in designated public places. Not sure if you have them here but we do have public places that are equipped with public barbecue facilities for people to book out, usually at the beaches or public parks.

The recent fires we've had in my area were due to illegal outdoor cabling done by people in remote areas and they've had charges pressed against them because a bit of ash + the winds we get here turned into a shitshow.

Throwing cigarette butts out your window while driving is 6 points removed from your license (here it's the other way round, you get deducted points from 15 and your license is taken away at 0) and a massive fine if caught.

Link to the fire caused by illegal outdoor cabling: https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-...cene-as-emergency-services-contain-the-blaze/

 

[Gwadien]

I'm against the government in a lot of ways over here but I'd like to think the risk of fires here is greater in my part of the world but no one would tolerate the public bodies interfering with whether we could have barbecues at home or in designated public places. Not sure if you have them here but we do have public places that are equipped with public barbecue facilities for people to book out, usually at the beaches or public parks.

The recent fires we've had in my area were due to illegal outdoor cabling done by people in remote areas and they've had charges pressed against them because a bit of ash + the winds we get here turned into a shitshow.

Throwing cigarette butts out your window while driving is 6 points removed from your license (here it's the other way round, you get deducted points from 15 and your license is taken away at 0) and a massive fine if caught.

Link to the fire caused by illegal outdoor cabling: https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-...cene-as-emergency-services-contain-the-blaze/

I don't think I've seen a single argument against not using barbecues (especially disposable ones) tbh, I think it's simply because we don't have a culture of having public gatherings with BBQs - I've actually seen a few videos of Afro-Caribbean people & Asians having public barbecues and people frothing at the mouth at it - jealous fuckers.

I suspect it was aimed at kids who get a disposable, a couple of sausage and have a lil bbq with your mates, I did it a few times as a kid and in hindsight it was stupid - what's even more stupid is that a copper found us once and told us so long as we cleared up it's fine, lol.

I don't think we've ever had fires like that in the UK? I can't really remember a time hearing of fields burning super quickly, that's not for little rainy Britain.

 

[Scouse]

I don't think we've ever had fires like that in the UK? I can't really remember a time hearing of fields burning super quickly, that's not for little rainy Britain.

Happening for decades. You're just missing it.

Most of the time it's started by farmers burning bracken and gorse. I've posted about it on here over the years, repeatedly. Including when one wanker set fire to a whole mountain in wales last year and destroyed the last known nesting place of an endangered bird.

It's definitely bad this year. But it only made the press because people's homes actually got hit.

 

[Scouse]

I don't think I've seen a single argument against not using barbecues (especially disposable ones) tbh,

I can make one easily. I have spent most of my life using them very occasionally. Maybe once a year in a pinch. They're fine, for what they are. And they're made of tin-foil, so when done, they can be recycled. And they're a good way of having a contained BBQ when you go camping.


But them I'm not a dumb cunt* who'd put one down on a tinder box and then leave it. And neither are the the vast majority of people who use them all the time. It's retards that are the problem. And texting them won't fix them.

*Or a smoker, who unthinkingly throws fag butts away - saw that twice at the weekend.

 

[Raven]

Farmers used to burn the stubble, back when I was a kid. We had to close the windows for a week after harvest.

 

[Embattle]

The media starting its endless coverage of Harry & Meghan....again.

 

[Gwadien]

The media starting its endless coverage of Harry & Meghan....again.

What, you're not excited they're coming back? I AM WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

 

[Deebs]

Farmers used to burn the stubble, back when I was a kid. We had to close the windows for a week after harvest.

I remember this, not seen it for years. Guess the insurance is too high just in case it spreads? My brother lives near a farm that grows hops and there is no sign of any firebreaks at the edges and one edge touches a forest.

 

[Raven]

I remember this, not seen it for years. Guess the insurance is too high just in case it spreads? My brother lives near a farm that grows hops and there is no sign of any firebreaks at the edges and one edge touches a forest.

It was banned in the early 90s. They have to buy nutrients now.

 

[Scouse]

Or, alternatively, they burn the shit.

Stubble, grass, gorse, bracken. Might be illegal, but everyone's at it and nobody blinks.

Oh, and they're hunting foxes and badgers with dogs and shooting them. They have guys on walkie talkies each end of the road in case hunt sabos turn up. Or (lol) the po-po.