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Twitter looks to be a barrel of laughs.

Still don't understand how this was an emergency message, where there was an imminent threat to life, and targetted to the local area affected through cell-based geolocation as the system was designed.
 

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Twitter looks to be a barrel of laughs.

Still don't understand how this was an emergency message, where there was an imminent threat to life, and targetted to the local area affected through cell-based geolocation as the system was designed.
You've confused yourself again. You're (probably) talking about covid alerts. These are regional, and all regions are ready to go up in flames.


...and if people are ignoring the warnings, then interrupting The One Show to get the message across is a small price to pay.

Ey Dazza, what was all that about?

Er Sharon, something about only those that should have been aborted at birth light fires in these conditions.

Ey Dazza, that's us, isn't it?

Er Sharon, Yes Dazza, that's us.
 
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You've confused yourself again.
Nope. Plenty of people from all walks of life saying that it's "massive overreach and it's meant for 'drop everything and prepare for something terrible'" situations. Not public information broadcasts.
 

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Doing stuff on autopilot at stupid o clock this morning. Couldn't sleep so was watching UFC and doing stuff on the laptop and remembered I wanted to move some data around so had to power on my spare NAS.

I have 2 NAS' now, A and B, currently lots of VMs are located on NAS B and I wanted to turn on NAS A. No problem, wander off to power on the NAS. Held the power button to start a controlled startup and came back inside and sat dranking coffee when after about 5/10 minutes I noticed this place was dead, then email, then DNS.

Dozy cunt I am turned off the live NAS by mistake, don't get me started, it looked like it was off and was the correct one. Also I realised I have the labels on the devices round the wrong way.

Yeh you can all fuckoff when laughing, cunts.
 

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C: software bloat.

I have a 250g SSD for windows and a bunch of extra drives for games and media, and C: is nearly full, despite nothing ever getting installed to it. Now having to go through Appdata folder by folder to remove stuff, nearly 50g of shite left over by long forgotten games and software so far.

Yes I could get a larger one, but I cannot be bothered with the hassle, and I think 250g should be far more than enough.
 

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And now their control rooms are inundated with calls from people reporting their neighbours for having a BBQ in their back garden.


Add in the people disabling it because you've cried wolf all I'd say is - Slow clap "govern me harder daddy" lamers.

It was a ridiculous use of the Emergency Alert system - just send a text message to those cell towers affected. And I say that as someone who lives next to Cannock Chase which has been on fire for a month.


That includes on Saturday, after the retarded message went out.
 

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Too long to edit, but yes, you can disable them if you care enough.
That's all this made me do. It was annoying and an overreach. Banning one combustible item isn't going to "make safe" and Burnham just wants to be seen to do "things". That's fine but stick to the evening news and TikTok so I can continue to avoid both.

@Deebs point about water infrastructure resonates more. If it was sufficiently robust we wouldn't be facing water shortages and maybe we could manage to keep areas less of a tinderbox because they could be watered. It's also going to be more critical if temperatures keep going up in future years.
 

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Yep and yep.

Not sure we could wholesale water farmland, heathland and moorland. But under Labour the regulator is now talking about allowing surge pricing for water - so if you're already paying more because of heavy usage on a metered connection, they want you to pay double if you want to use water during the summer months.

So, no longer a flat fee for a service provided. Extra profits for water companies. All because they want to "drive down water usage" in one of the wettest countries in the world.

How about fuck driving down water usage. Flat rate fee. Company profits are denied unless they can provide that service - nothing to shareholders, no bonuses, build and fix your infrastructure, build reservoirs - because since 1997 (the last time our population was relatively stable) we've added 12 million more people to the UK population, and built no infrastructure to deal with that.

So why should everyone get less, whilst profits go to shareholders. We need a minimum of 20% more water capacity. We've already paid for it...
 

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Yep and yep.

Not sure we could wholesale water farmland, heathland and moorland. But under Labour the regulator is now talking about allowing surge pricing for water - so if you're already paying more because of heavy usage on a metered connection, they want you to pay double if you want to use water during the summer months.

So, no longer a flat fee for a service provided. Extra profits for water companies. All because they want to "drive down water usage" in one of the wettest countries in the world.

How about fuck driving down water usage. Flat rate fee. Company profits are denied unless they can provide that service - nothing to shareholders, no bonuses, build and fix your infrastructure, build reservoirs - because since 1997 (the last time our population was relatively stable) we've added 12 million more people to the UK population, and built no infrastructure to deal with that.

So why should everyone get less, whilst profits go to shareholders. We need a minimum of 20% more water capacity. We've already paid for it...

Apparently it's not additional storage capacity we need - it's the delivery systems (leaky pipes etc) which are limiting how much water we can use. There still plenty of water in the reservoirs, we just can't get it to people due to the creaky old distribution system we have.

The water system is definitely something we need sorted, but I'd avoid any simplistic solutions like "bring it into public ownership" - for which I still haven't seen a decent argument for yet.

OK Thames Water look to be a shitshow, we're with Severn Trent who have been absolutely fine - and a lot more responsive than the council when it comes to fixing noisy drain covers on the road outside our house.


The water clearly needs more investment to sort the leaks out and improve the infrastructure - however I don't see that coming from anywhere except the Private Sector. The Government are skint, and if it was publicly owned it would be competing with schools, prisons and the sainted NHS for funding.


Maybe of OFWAT hadn't been repeatedly defanged then we would be having quite this issue.
 

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The problem is that water seems to be a short-term investment plan, it seems odd to me that you could essentially keep water bills at the same level, fix up the pipes and by doing that you'd increase your profits...

I wouldn't even mind if we had massive amounts of public funding to fix up pipes, so long as then it's then explained to water companies that they must be maintained at a certain level and if not we'll give them a smacked bottom.
 

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The water clearly needs more investment to sort the leaks out and improve the infrastructure - however I don't see that coming from anywhere except the Private Sector. The Government are skint, and if it was publicly owned it would be competing with schools, prisons and the sainted NHS for funding.
I'd go with this - but leaky water infrastructure was practically my first term lecture series in 1992. Along with shit-filled rivers.

The private sector is failing - and when we kick off then the money comes from us anyway.

Our water bills simply are government-quango-regulated taxes. It's an arrangement by which the government gets to say "it's Thames Water's fault". That's literally the only benefit as water is a natural monopoly.

So these "companies" (lol) simply administer the local infrastructure to government-mandated (via the quangos) standards. Problems have been apparent for my entire lifetime - which is one of the reasons they were privatised in the first place - not to fix the problems, but to give government an easy life and someone to blame, whilst making some profit off assets.

The asset being taxpayers.

You're absolutely right that government never fixed the issues prior to privatisation. But all privatisation has done is make it harder for government to fix - and harder for the taxpayer to hold government to account over failing infrastructure. We'll lose when taking Thames into public ownership - not only will we be on the hook to fix it, we'll have to buy the assets (us) from Thames water shareholders first. Then, once we fix it, we'll re-sell.

Privatise the gains. Socialise the losses.
 

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I wouldn't even mind if we had massive amounts of public funding to fix up pipes, so long as then it's then explained to water companies that they must be maintained at a certain level and if not we'll give them a smacked bottom.
They've already got that arrangement. And their bottom is being smacked to the tune of "fix it" - "ok, give us the money" - "err. ok, lets start allowing surge pricing".

Labour are particularly weak on this. They'd rather everyone had less water and the richer funded more (because double water-tax would just be something else they can foist on middle classes) and the poor would have to be monitoring their water meters all the time to make sure their already-thin gruel they call life doesn't get even more expensive.
 

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They've already got that arrangement. And their bottom is being smacked to the tune of "fix it" - "ok, give us the money" - "err. ok, lets start allowing surge pricing".

Labour are particularly weak on this. They'd rather everyone had less water and the richer funded more (because double water-tax would just be something else they can foist on middle classes) and the poor would have to be monitoring their water meters all the time to make sure their already-thin gruel they call life doesn't get even more expensive.

Ofwat allowed surge pricing, Labour didn't support it...
 

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Ofwat allowed surge pricing, Labour didn't support it...
Labour ministers have overseen and inputted into scarcity-pricing proposals from Ofwat and the industry. It's only in the last couple of days that surge pricing has been reported on that Burnham's backtracked as the discourse has become toxic. Labour minister s have been involved in the tariff trial areas and inputting into the process:

Emma Hardy Labour Water Minister said:
This government supports the innovative approaches being taken to trial new charges ..... Ministers had held regular discussions with the industry on various issues, including progressive and seasonal water metering tariffs

"Progressive" = some people have to pay more for the same service. Labour have been involved all along. They're governing. They've pulled the proposals for now* because Burnham is getting kicked in the press.

Don't be fooled by "Ofwat <whatever>" - that's the whole point of the quango. To shield government from criticism.


*Edit: With water meters the temptation will always be there. It'll get resurrected at some point. Too tempting for arsehole money-grabbers. Any way of raising taxes without it looking like them "raising taxes".
 
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Seems fitting.
 

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