Radeon 9600

[Cyfr]

Got a radeon 9600...

Installed it, latest drivers ect, my pc would randomly crash or the screen would go black.

After lots of messing about trying ram and stuff, I reformated, same problem

Anyone any idea whats going on?

 

[behatch]

is it 9600pro? faulty? does it run other games ok?

 

[Retrakith]

I have the Radeon 9600PRO, runs fine on any game. Try running with a driver other than Catalyst drivers (spelling?) as it sometimes bugs with them, other than that..i dont know

 

[plomien]

try here http://softmod.ocfaq.com/download.php

if you still get problems it might be the gfx card is faulty i know i had problems withe my 9800 causing problems and i was the gfx card was U/S

 

[Cyfr]

Btw this is to do with my pc in general, I originaly posted it in the daoc section for some unknown reason

The pc crashs whenever it feels like it, even on desktop.

plomien those links don't work

 

[Xavier]

Ok, for starters do NOT use softmodded drivers when diagnosing problems. And ignore Retrakith - if he wants to be a pleb that's all good and fine, but not in here please.

The first thing you should do is give us a full breakdown of the kit inside your PC, your OS, service pack status, version of DirectX and the driver you're using. Then we can go about fixing your problem.

Xav

 

[Cyfr]

Before I reformated, I had Windows xp SP1, directx9, newest catalyst driver.

No idea what mobo I have, amd athlon 2000xp+, 256mb ram.

Currently updating my pc again atm

 

[Xavier]

Ok, so that we can actually begin to fix it, are you back at XP / SP1/1a and DirectX 9.0b ? Let me know when you're all updated and we'll have a crack at sorting you out.


Xav

 

[Cyfr]

Ok i'm all updated again, no drivers currently installed for the gfx card, Dx9.0b

 

[Xavier]

Ok, well I'd whack the latest catalysts in there, preferrably downloaded from ATI.com, I've spotted a few bugs in the current release (4.5) but can't see 4.4 available for download on their site, but not to worry, none of them are exactly show-stopping and they're due to release another WHQL revision to iron out the issues shortly...

Once you have video drivers installed we can look at resource conflicts and whatnot, which is a second port of call methinks...

Xav

 

[Cyfr]

Ok done, thought it was fixed, lasted a 30mb into patching up my game then it froze

 

[Danyan]

Catalyst 4.4s:
http://www2.ati.com/drivers/wxp-w2k-8-00-040322a-014266c.exe

See also: http://www.ati.com/support/products/radeonwinxppreviousdrivers.html

 

[Xavier]

Aha, well you can revert to the 4.4's if you like, but it sounds more and more like some kind of resource issue maybe...

 

[JBP|]

your previous card wouldnt have been made by nvidia would it?


when i installed yonis card from nividia to ati we had similar problems(and again when i installed mine)

i think nvidia leave something behind on your hd when you remove the drivers as i had to format both machines to make the cards stable

 

[Cyfr]

4.4's make it freeze too

 

[Xavier]

Ok, next step - go into device manager, (right click my computer, -> properties -> hardware -> device manager) select 'resources by type' under the 'View' menu, and then expand 'Interrupt request (IRQ) - are any of the devices in there sharing an IRQ with anything else? or does each device have it's own IRQ number?

Xav

 

[Cyfr]

Can I do this while in safemode so I can actualy do it without crashing over and over?

 

[Cyfr]

Ok.. in safemode (as I can't get into it otherwise due to crashing) all of tjem have their own number apart from:

(PCI) 12 Sis 7001 PCI to USB open host controller

(PCI) 12 Sis 7001 PCI to USB open host controller

Its listed twice like that, and my gfx card is #5

 

[Xavier]

Ok, do you have your old card to hand? What was it? And is your motherboard running the latest BIOS?

Don't worry about the USB, they're fine to share, I was more concerned about your AGP card using a shared IRQ... Sometimes they end up on the same interrupt as your Soundcard, IDE or if you have it, SCSI, and that can cause merry hell.

You're going to NEED to know what motherboard you're using, have a look between PCI slots 3 and 4 for a model number (it's usually there, printed in big white text) - have a look for the manufacturer name too if you can spot it...

Xav

 

[Cyfr]

No model number or make, i've had this before and it's a pain in the ass.

There any programs that can tell me what mobo I have?

edit: Thinking about it.. elite something comes to mind, do they make mobos?
There is a sticker that says EA= then a long number.. but thats all I can find.

I'm not sure if I have the latest bios, I've never updated it tho..

Oh and, my old gfx card did this... i'm not sure if it was because the card was buggerd tho as i've had it a few years and the fans breaking down.

Want me to try my 9800pro from this PC?

 

[wyrd_fish]

sandra'll tell you anything you want to know

 

[Xavier]

Not in all cases... there are plenty of motherboards Sandra can't identify correctly...

Xav

 

[sibanac]

if you are realy quick, there should be a series of number and letters on the bottom of the screen after the HD detection (press pause write it down and post it here)

 

[Cyfr]

hmm... I just went into bios and set everything to default and its working fine.. sorry all

 

[Xavier]

huzzah!

Xav

 

[Cyfr]

Hm...

It's not as bad now, but still randomly making the screen go blank

 

[Cyfr]

Hur... now its running fine, im confused I need to take it back anyway because it's supposed to be a 9600 not an SE

 

[Xavier]

isn't the 9600 se slower than a normal 9600?

*checked* yes - it is, only 64-bit bus as opposed to 128.

Xav

 

[Cyfr]

Yup. I saw a 9600 in the shop, £74 I thought it wasn't too badly priced to say I could have it right then.

Got it home then noticed on the box that it has a very small 'SE' in the corner
Damn ati hiding it from me , on pro's it has it in big writing.

Gona go get my money back as £74 for a SE is insane, can get pros for a few £ more online..

 

[Cyfr]

Ok well after lots of unfortunate events (namely me crushing the core of my spare pc's cpu ) I have my other pc up and running again, however I still have this problem.
If I install any new drivers it imediatly gives the big gfx bugs on the desktop, if I install 4.4 it runs games fine for about 15mins then huge gfx bugs in that. (Game is daoc)

The motherboard must be almost 2 years old now, it only supports apg 2x so as you can see it's not so good . Do you think maybe its the motherboard thats causing these problems? Remember I had a 9600se which did the same as this 9600pro so I doubt its the actual card itself..