Radar bannings

Corran

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To be honest it quite funny seeing all these anti-aod comments now days. People say they poor yet they still quite effective. I dont agree with steveh on all things as people notice yet still group with him and we always have one thing on agenda, having fun. Fun > RP's. Though rp's are a bonus :D

And if they so poor how comes the group we ran today managed to walk up to a 40mids. Kill most of them with only a few managing to run off, and then leave without losing a single person? Was quite funny to see though i still think some RA's are totally overpowered when used together and with certain ml's it insta death for masses of players which depending on the side your on is a bad thing.
 

AngeLujo

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Tirfo said:
Awww listen to the aod kiddies jumping to the defence of uberlamer, even without gp a hib grp can beat you, its just now more than ever you will run with 1fg scouts (altho you will claim they are random adding lamers, bit like yerselves) :kissit:

awww liste to the hibbie kiddies jumping to throw shit on everyone and everything that can cause trouble to them. typical jackal u are, jump on things that are started by someone else as u are too narrow minded to write something by yourself that looks "cool" and agressive enough...
 

Quinlan

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Bhalage said:
look, sarcasme is sarcasme u maybe right at some point, but seeing that someone is throwing sh*t on your guildie and is not right about it makes me :puke:
guess ud make the same
who wouldnt

Sarcasm a side. You wont know if he uses radar or not unless you sit by him 100% of his playtime!
 

Tirfo

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AngeLujo said:
awww liste to the hibbie kiddies jumping to throw shit on everyone and everything that can cause trouble to them. typical jackal u are, jump on things that are started by someone else as u are too narrow minded to write something by yourself that looks "cool" and agressive enough...

Thats the wankest comeback ive ever seen tbh, you cant even open your own reply with your own words >< leave by the back stage door and dont forget your coat on the way out, and whats all this 'everyone and everything that can cause trouble to them'? that wouldnt be you then as you've never given me any trouble, so dont embarass yourself anymore. :m00:
 

Corran

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OK this is a long post but you people shouting "RADAR" and "AOD are blah blah blah" try read this. It late and im in a rush though so even though it long it wont be perfect im afraid :s

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If uberalma did have radar, thats a big IF, then the chances of it helping a group he is NOT leading is diminished greatly as in an albion group most of the time the CC sorc will not lead. This said DOES NOT mean it would be ok to use radar however. The leader of AoD groups primary would be Steveh. That means that uberalma would need to be saying that enemy are at xxx but that never happened in the times i was grouped with them. Also, i would like to add that most the information of enemy locations and headings that we worked from was actually from stealthers. You know the Scouse crew that people moan about alot for being multiple stealthers? Well they were always providing information to groups so that could try and intercept.

Now, I cant say for sure that he didnt use radar. HOWEVER you cant say he did for the same reasons. You have no evidence in which to show us solid reasoning for the accusations, actually you got no evidence here to even hint that he used radar which means you merely flaming at him and expect people that are his friends to just let you? Remember part of friendship is to TRUST and STAND UP for one another, you should know that. And that is why you will find AoD members sticking up for him.

Now, i have across my time had many hunches about people that may use radar and yet i havent named them here, and know what im not going to. There are some stealthers and group players that easily give of the impression that they MAY of used radar yet without solid evidence why tarnish the little reputation that they have got? What is it your actually seeking to achieve by attacking this player?

AoD may not be able to slaughter all the high RR groups from other realms. But then they do have the ability to do so sometimes, afteral they dont claim to be invincible, maybe luck and maybe not but you realise that these groups you keep going on about arent impossible to beat for anyone. Eclipse, NP, PE, Mael, BO and just about any guild you can mention have been beaten in a fair fight, hell i was in a random group with a friar as healer long ago that beat BO due to shear luck, and yet i bet that there many people somewhere that think there someone in EVERY single one of these guilds use radar, but aint slagging them off. Pre-NF what i simply did was talk to a GM about the issue and state reasons, and they would look into it. Afteral it not always possible to get proof yourself even if you think it clear, that something a GM could look into. You ever actually talk to a GM about the issue and ask them to look into it? On more then one occasion i spoke to one about my suspicions yet couldnt provide evidence, only other names of people that thought it was possible and based upon that they happy would investigate the claims. Afteral, there more then one way to skin a cat.

Now i really wish to ask a question here. What exactly makes you think Uberalma uses radar? It just that if he not leading the group then it cant be the fact they keep finding you as you would be accusing the personing leading. IF he was saying in group chat or guild chat where the enemy was then you not privilaged to this information and so it cant be that. So what exactly makes you folks so sure? I am generally interested. If you think the reason sounds stupid and dont want to look a fool then please feel free to PM it to me.
 

scarloc

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AoD get jumped as much as they get the jump.

And they run 1fg. And what else? Oh nm, just stop whining
 

Arethir

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Corran said:
OK this is a long post but you people shouting "RADAR" and "AOD are blah blah blah" try read this. It late and im in a rush though so even though it long it wont be perfect im afraid :s

...................................

If uberalma did have radar, thats a big IF, then the chances of it helping a group he is NOT leading is diminished greatly as in an albion group most of the time the CC sorc will not lead. This said DOES NOT mean it would be ok to use radar however. The leader of AoD groups primary would be Steveh. That means that uberalma would need to be saying that enemy are at xxx but that never happened in the times i was grouped with them. Also, i would like to add that most the information of enemy locations and headings that we worked from was actually from stealthers. You know the Scouse crew that people moan about alot for being multiple stealthers? Well they were always providing information to groups so that could try and intercept.

Now, I cant say for sure that he didnt use radar. HOWEVER you cant say he did for the same reasons. You have no evidence in which to show us solid reasoning for the accusations, actually you got no evidence here to even hint that he used radar which means you merely flaming at him and expect people that are his friends to just let you? Remember part of friendship is to TRUST and STAND UP for one another, you should know that. And that is why you will find AoD members sticking up for him.

Now, i have across my time had many hunches about people that may use radar and yet i havent named them here, and know what im not going to. There are some stealthers and group players that easily give of the impression that they MAY of used radar yet without solid evidence why tarnish the little reputation that they have got? What is it your actually seeking to achieve by attacking this player?

AoD may not be able to slaughter all the high RR groups from other realms. But then they do have the ability to do so sometimes, afteral they dont claim to be invincible, maybe luck and maybe not but you realise that these groups you keep going on about arent impossible to beat for anyone. Eclipse, NP, PE, Mael, BO and just about any guild you can mention have been beaten in a fair fight, hell i was in a random group with a friar as healer long ago that beat BO due to shear luck, and yet i bet that there many people somewhere that think there someone in EVERY single one of these guilds use radar, but aint slagging them off. Pre-NF what i simply did was talk to a GM about the issue and state reasons, and they would look into it. Afteral it not always possible to get proof yourself even if you think it clear, that something a GM could look into. You ever actually talk to a GM about the issue and ask them to look into it? On more then one occasion i spoke to one about my suspicions yet couldnt provide evidence, only other names of people that thought it was possible and based upon that they happy would investigate the claims. Afteral, there more then one way to skin a cat.

Now i really wish to ask a question here. What exactly makes you think Uberalma uses radar? It just that if he not leading the group then it cant be the fact they keep finding you as you would be accusing the personing leading. IF he was saying in group chat or guild chat where the enemy was then you not privilaged to this information and so it cant be that. So what exactly makes you folks so sure? I am generally interested. If you think the reason sounds stupid and dont want to look a fool then please feel free to PM it to me.


:clap: :clap: :clap:

Also people.. if he was saying it on grp chat.. AoD invite other people than only the ones from their guild you know... i have been in their grps myself.. wouldn't it be odd if noone was to EVER say anything about it? none of the loads of ppl that has been in an AoD grp has ever seen anything that could even look like radar-use..
 

Belomar

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Radar accusations, be they sarcasm or not, have no place on a forum like this. Take it to RightNow or knock yourself out about it on IRC.
 

TheBinarySurfer

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IMO Radar accusations on here should carry a temp FH ban if youre been warned about it already.

Also very much doubt AoD ever did that - grouped with them on 2 chars a bit and youre quite right - they get jumped as much as they jump others.Duracellus and Uber FTW though ;)
 

Graendel

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Same really.

Grouped with AoD several times - only ever seen them move on information from stealthers / bg / alliance / other members in grp like me. They're great players, always nice and is out for a good time. I smell sour grapes from people who have been killed by them far too often.
 

Edlina

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Well if aod gets all their info from stealthers on where grps move around etc. and then act off of these informations.

I think they should stop making up excuses about not wanting stealthers to add on their fights cos doing the above is clearly an incitament for stealthers to come and add on their fights (it's not like scouse etc isn't gonna try to get the rps they can from adding when aod fights the grp they reported moving somewhere)

So less stupid excuses about stealthers moving mach 5 following us, and we don't like the stealther adds etc, cos that's clearly a lie, if you don't want them to add, don't react to/obtain information from them.

Corran said:
Eclipse, NP, PE, Mael, BO and just about any guild you can mention have been beaten in a fair fight

Not by AoD though, in 8 vs 8, at least not where I've been there.

Anyway, I personally don't think Uberalma (sp?) uses radar, never had any real reason to belive so anyway, and he's kinda too crappy to be using it :p

ANYWAY this thread wasn't about radar accusations, it was about if anyone know if GOA has the same tools Mythic used to find radar users, and it would be nice with a GM responce to this...
 

Aldrick

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Edlina said:
ANYWAY this thread wasn't about radar accusations, it was about if anyone know if GOA has the same tools Mythic used to find radar users, and it would be nice with a GM responce to this...
Ofc they do and if they dont it would just show how freaking incompetent GOA are and that would certainly make me quit the game now.
 

Maleg

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Edlina said:
ANYWAY this thread wasn't about radar accusations, it was about if anyone know if GOA has the same tools Mythic used to find radar users, and it would be nice with a GM responce to this...
Probably don't / can't due to some licensing issue :p

As much as I hate cheats can Pryd afford to lose any more of it's playerbase?
 

jenifer

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DaggerElivager said:
thats presuming that all radar users have a brain. Even this wont deter some people from trying to be the best at this game and willing to do it anyway, even cheating. BUT i do hope this did serve as a warning and they did all quit using it. tis lame


but they dont... otherwise they would no that tests for radars started some time ago... btw i know 2 peeps on lab that got banned! rl acquaintences (sp?) etc...

tbh... i feel with NF and the warmap Mythic have decided to employ the 'if u cant beat em join em stance' and now every potential zerglings from all TWO AND A HALF realms 'technically' have rader.. the days of 'classic n00bs' has gone ... make way for the 'Modern nubs' and expect to hear / see the 'where is bledmeer from nottmor' questions...

ps: if that happens u know u r better off leaving realm for us hibs :D :flame:
 

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