Race and Class

[aardwolf]

could someone give me some ideas who is the best and the worst from races and classes to chose from. some people say rangers some say mages. but really who has the total domination among all other races and classes. I know i have read the manual but all of you guys from your experiance should know better. I want to be a magician but need to stand up for my self in close combat plus quickness and stealth. soundls like an ultimate race. thats why i need your experianced advice.

 

[yog-hurt]

omfg what a uber none answerable question, that ius very difficult to answer mate


although my best advice is to try a few chars to lvl 10 say, then caryy on from there, class's are very personality based...


hf

 

[aardwolf]

well that helped> not.
could you be more precise like who shows advantage in battle. whats the best advantage you think a race should have magic, agility, strength??? you know i am loking for someone who is better.

 

[Aule Valar]

I want to be a magician but need to stand up for my self in close combat plus quickness and stealth

the closest your likely to get to having all of those is a mincer however whilst it can do all of them they're not all that good at most (except speed, which apparently got stealth nerfed)
other options ranger or nightshade, these two are considered the gimps of archers and assasins, but do have magic, stealth and combat ability

 

[aardwolf]

mincer? who is that? maybe you say its Minstrel?
well thank you.

anyone has other ideas?

 

[starblade]

It's very simple, there is no uber-d00dzor-leet-skill-super-character in here. Some classes have advantages over others but in turn are weak against yet other classes.

There are 'flavour of the months' for sure but in the end, Mythic tries to put in some balance trying to avoid what you want ... the uber-class...simply to avoid that all players reroll to that class.

Atm, chanters are considered deadly by some, friars are a great class to play (also open to one race only so that's a solved problem ). Heard necro's are quite good. In the end, it all depends on your personal style, no matter what race or class. No matter what you pick, it can be turned into a great character depending, as always, on the person behind the keys.

 

[aardwolf]

ok than i know its better to fight in a group but i dont want to be a supporting member of a team like a healer. i want to be the leader. i dont think healer could be one. who is most promesing class for that? because if ill go lone wolf i think team of players against one will still have massive domination.

 

[old.CrazyMuppet]

Originally posted by aardwolf
ok than i know its better to fight in a group but i dont want to be a supporting member of a team like a healer. i want to be the leader. i dont think healer could be one. who is most promesing class for that? because if ill go lone wolf i think team of players against one will still have massive domination.

Impossible.

The game mechanics work in the way that you can not have 1 race/class and dominate all.

Only classes that have something that comes close to 'domination' are asassins.... and this only for 1 reason: They can pick their target... because of stealth. This counts to a lesser extent for archers.

Oh and leadership is not determined by a class/character, it's determined by the person playing the character.

 

[Breni]

Well, I suppose the better classes for magic/melee in Midgard are either Thane or Shaman. Both have damage spells, but only the Thane can spec a weapon. My Shaman is high cave spec and can happily solo orange con mobs. Baseline healing is enough for him to get by on, and his buff capability is pretty fair.

IT depends what you want to get out of the game more than anything else, to be honest. If you're intent on playing solo in RvR, then an assassin/archer is probably the way to go, but I have no experience of those classes beyond being regularly targetted for death when I'm in the frontier...I swear it's the hat.

 

[minime_]

lol if you want a good magic/melee char in mid roll a skald, not a fecking thane or shammy lol.

 

[Ziva]

The reason we have so many different races and classes ingame is the fact Mythic tried to make all the chars as balanced as possible (and they are still busy balancing even). Else u would see all people rolling one particular class in every realm. Since this is not the fact it tells u all classes have their advantages and disadvantages.

In order to determine ur class u should ask yourself some questions like how u prefer to play (solo,group) and what kinda role u would like (tank/support/healer/mage).

I have a lvl 50 chanter and i can be very valuable in group or solo while XPing but when it comes to RvR u really are quiet vulnerable even though u do quiet a big amount of damage when your not disturbed. If i would like to solo a lot in RvR i would make an assasin for sure but upfront i know that they are not very wanted in groups while XPing unfortunately.

 

[Kalinzir]

Originally posted by aardwolf
ok than i know its better to fight in a group but i dont want to be a supporting member of a team like a healer. i want to be the leader. i dont think healer could be one. who is most promesing class for that? because if ill go lone wolf i think team of players against one will still have massive domination.

I'm not sure what you mean with leader here.. Every char can be the official group leader, only thing a group leader havesa to do is inviting other peoples after all..

If it means that you want to be the first one to enter a battle i think you should choose a champion, good tanks and they can pull nicely. Don't know to much about mid/alb chars so won't say anything about them.

 

[starblade]

Originally posted by old.CrazyMuppet
Oh and leadership is not determined by a class/character, it's determined by the person playing the character.

And better remember this one from Methos. Leadership is earned through action and behaviour that give you respect and recognition from other players, not through playing class x or y.

 

[Gabrial]

If you got SI you could roll a Valewalker - I think they can fight and cast?

 

[Breni]

Originally posted by minime_
lol if you want a good magic/melee char in mid roll a skald, not a fecking thane or shammy lol.

Right, and Skalds have what over Thanes? No shield spec, same HP table, +battlesongs has no effect on song output as opposed to +stormcalling...plus Thanes are losing their DD recast timer in 1.59.

And as for Shamans, this chap seemed to want a mixed bag...some melee, high magic damage output, a little healing and a fair shot at getting groups...

 

[Runolaz]

Originally posted by aardwolf
I want to be a magician but need to stand up for my self in close combat plus quickness and stealth. soundls like an ultimate race. thats why i need your experianced advice.

Magician = Minstrel
Melee = Minstrel
Quickness = Minstrel (as in spd running arround)
Stealth = Minstrel

I think what your looking for is a Minstrel

As for race...Think it's a matter of tast, but Highlander would be the best with regards to str and con.

The Minstrel is good at both Solo RvR and is important element in grp's for RvR. I think Minstrel is the only char that comes close to meeting all your demands, but you have to decide what to choose.

 

[[PS]Riddler]

Originally posted by aardwolf
ok than i know its better to fight in a group but i dont want to be a supporting member of a team like a healer. i want to be the leader. i dont think healer could be one. who is most promesing class for that? because if ill go lone wolf i think team of players against one will still have massive domination.

I know im from prydwen, but this comment deserves a big fat

 

[Whoodoo_RD]

Why not just roll 4 chars and get it over with

Mincer, skald, spiritmaster, necromancer, bonedancer, savage, shadowblade...

Minstrel covers all you got, but in all limited amounts, what you ask is the uberest char possible, thats not balanced and therefore not possible.

 

[Arwen]

For albion make a rogue and choose between one of those options... (Minstrel, Scout or Infiltrator) That sounds most like you want, not exactly master of ownage and domination though, that's my department

 

[dimerian]

Roll scout

 

[Tasans]

Originally posted by aardwolf
ok than i know its better to fight in a group but i dont want to be a supporting member of a team like a healer. i want to be the leader. i dont think healer could be one. who is most promesing class for that? because if ill go lone wolf i think team of players against one will still have massive domination.

Roll a ranger or a mincer or champ or something else.
Dont pick midgard please, we dont need another ubah l33t d00d with delusions of pwnage.

 

[bracken_woodman]

Originally posted by aardwolf
well that helped> not.
could you be more precise like who shows advantage in battle. whats the best advantage you think a race should have magic, agility, strength??? you know i am loking for someone who is better.

Yog actually gave you the most honest answer, so no need to be rude. There isn't an all encompassing class/race with what you have described. In fact, from what you've said I'd suggest you go and read up some before coming on here, asking a stupid question and then being a plonker when someone actually gives you a straight answer.

 

[Armalite]

One tip; For gods sake do not roll a skald!

Sure, it might be fun in the beginning, u run past everyone, u dd a mob here, u dd a mob there, ur in the heat of the moment! u-are-the-man!

but then... when ur too high lvl to turn back, u begin to notice the little things, ur styles arent working properly, ur main advantage (speed song) is bugged, ur damage spells are bugged.

The patches roll by u, u dont ask much, u dont want any new powers, u dont want more hp, more dmg, or whatever, u just want to be fixed. But it never come, 1,52..1,54...1,57....1.60..1.60A-G... no, they dont even mention u in their patches, exept for when they make the minstrel powers who use the same code as u better....

And on top of that, at 50 when u get ur epic, u relise its just a rip-off minstrel epic armor.

If u like the consept of skald/minstrel/bard choose bard or minstrel.

Or even better, wait for World of Warcraft. Blizzard have yet to deliver a bugged game.

Ok, I'll put away the bottle and go to sleep now.

 

[Arnor]

<calls 911..... HI I WANNA BE UBER!
-eh, who is this?
I want a chanters pbaoe, and a aoe-stun, and a no-los nuke/snaring pet, and stealth, and god-mode, and...all the money in the world.
-and your calling from where?
UUUUBEEEERREER, GIF ME UBAR OR GIF ME DEATH
-that can be arranged :> >













Tip: roll alb, they need more ppl like you

 

[censi]

roll an elf ranger.

 

[censi]

full melee specc

 

[old.Aragone]

lol

you need to stay out of hib play the uber mid / alb plz

or maybe go back to a game that might sute you Diablo2 or sumthing if you dont want to do that roll a avalonian paladin

 

[old.Aragone]

lol

you need to stay out of hib play the uber mid / alb plz

or maybe go back to a game that might sute you Diablo2 or sumthing if you dont want to do that roll a avalonian paladin

 

[old.Aragone]

lol

you need to stay out of hib play the uber mid / alb plz

or maybe go back to a game that might sute you Diablo2 or sumthing if you dont want to do that roll a avalonian paladin

 

[old.Aragone]

omg lol

yes give tripple posts plz damn bugged laggy internet