RA Respec for PF incoming

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mehuge

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I know I need to respec for PF, just been putting it off, choosing to craft instead. I was going to drop IP but dont know how much PF actually costs and if that will be enough and am too lazy to go work it out.

Any suggestions as to what other RA's I should get to go with PF for mainly RvR but not forgetting PvE

I'm a 6L5 zerk.
 
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AbPoon

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Get ip purge det 4 lw1 pf aug dex 2 mop and aom

That leaves you one point spare ^^
 
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np-insane

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If you got good rvr grps and good mend healers, IP is not needed
 
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AbPoon

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I dont tend to use IP alot but when its handy its real handy ^^
 
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mehuge

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Originally posted by AbPoon
Get ip purge det 4 lw1 pf aug dex 2 mop and aom

That leaves you one point spare ^^
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I have currently:

IP, Purge, MOP3, AOM3, DET4 and Tireless 1 and some pts spare (from memory). What lvl MOP/AOM allows me to have PF?

Tell u what, ill go play with the calculator and stop spamming :D

Is LW 1 any good?

I got tireless cos when I got rid after having it I really missed it (it conveniently regens end when running between fights without needing to stop and rest) so I bought it again.
 
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AbPoon

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LW is needed for if you have a shammy in grp with end 4 also means you regen end while sprinting with end 5.

Tireless i found was pretty usless
 
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old.mattshanes

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Using the RA calculator i would suggest:

First aid 2
Ignore Pain
Prevent Flight
Determination 4
Purge
Aug dex 2
Mastery Of Pain 2


As next RA's get pain 3/ dualist reflexes 3/aom 2/long wind 1 maybe/aug con 1/toughness 1

I personally would get Dualist Reflexes 2 then aom 2,after that any of those RA's.Then work your way to pain 3/reflexes 3

:)
 
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old.anubis

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det5, ip, pf = rr6l3
if i had determ tank i would make it like this
 
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ulke

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Here is what i would choose if i were you..
Determ5, PF, purge, aom2, dex2,mop2,lw1,toughness1 and save points for quick2/dodger2...

saving up for determ5 myself....
 
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mehuge

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Thanks for your suggestions :)

Is it better to go DET5 instead of AOM3? Guess with SC AOM is less urgent, dam better finish my SC :D

Or maybe I sacrifice IP which I do use as a life saver in both PvE and PvP. Humm...

Descisions, Descisions
 
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old.mattshanes

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With det 4+aom 2 even the best bard mezzes/sorc mezzes should be fairly short, det 5 is a lot of points which could be put into damage output.

My merc on pryd has det 3+aom 2(respeccing to det 4+aom 2) and cc is pretty short i am sure lv4 would be enough providing you get aom 2 with it.
 
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Danya

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With buffed resists and det3 you're looking at about 1 second of stunned time for a 9s stun, that means under 10 secs for almost any mez.
 
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AbPoon

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You NEED det 4, also Duelists reflexs does nothing for a zerker apart from a 3% increase in off hand damage
 
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bouh

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I'd keep AoM on lvl2, lvl3 looks expansive for 3% additional resists boost.
 
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bouh

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Originally posted by Danya
With buffed resists and det3 you're looking at about 1 second of stunned time for a 9s stun, that means under 10 secs for almost any mez.
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9 * 0.55 * (0.26 + 0.16 + 0.06) = 2.4 sec

but with deter4 and buffed resists 9 sec stun lasts about 1.5 sec - yes
 
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old.Lethul

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Originally posted by AbPoon
You NEED det 4, also Duelists reflexs does nothing for a zerker apart from a 3% increase in off hand damage
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weeee poon JH :DD.. sorry for not playing yesterday, some moron chopped my and invitemes 100mbit :( Hopefully will be fixed until tonight or tomorrow (maybe longer ;(((() And Zekee, DR increases damage over time more than MoP for savages. PS, i need RA respec stone to :)

ps. tireless is bad, LW1 is teh king!
 
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Lumikki

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PF is a MUST if you are not hammer spec'd!

xx
 
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arrakeen

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Originally posted by phule_gubben
what the hell is PF?
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Prevent Flight = Makes you have a XX% chance of proccing a snare on a target running away.

Its buggede atm i think so proc's allmost all time :)

And its a very good Ra's for tanks to catch support / casters trying to run away :)
 
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RobbanPobban

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I dont see PF in my RA list as a Savage.

Its not avalible for em, am I right or am I just blind?

kinda off topic but I thought I could take the oppertunity to write my question here insteaf of a short thread ;) Anyway your talking about PF.

Truly yours, robbanpobban!
 
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ulke

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Originally posted by RobbanPobban
I dont see PF in my RA list as a Savage.

Its not avalible for em, am I right or am I just blind?

kinda off topic but I thought I could take the oppertunity to write my question here insteaf of a short thread ;) Anyway your talking about PF.

Truly yours, robbanpobban!
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Correct Robban, savages can't get pf :/ and Mumin, i have DR3 and MoP3 so no need for respec here (i want determ5 tho) :p
 
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peder

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you dont need ip
you can also spend those nice rps on better things.
purge and det is first prio

cheers
 
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AbPoon

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Originally posted by peder
you dont need ip
you can also spend those nice rps on better things.
purge and det is first prio

cheers
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6.5 is enough to get ip and goodies aswell :E
 
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mehuge

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I am hammer spec'd, and I am using the rear style Conquer since the nerfix.

Is it still worth me respecing to PF then or is PF not any better? I suppose I dont need to be positional to get PF off tho and is snare a better effect than hinder?

I would like to keep IP if possible.
 
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hidon_steve

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where do you get this "RA calculator" ? sounds intresting..

anywho i would get Det4 AoM3 AugDex2 MoP3 and PF :D might be over ur rr.... but still a nice bunch of ra's ;)
 
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arrakeen

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Originally posted by old.anubis
det5, ip, pf = rr6l3
if i had determ tank i would make it like this
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I would Loose Ip and Fa2, if you aint soloing, because in groups you will often have 2 Mend healers to heal.

The Points are better spend a some passive ra's i think

and probaly allso det4 instead of 5, since its very costly to go 5 :)
 
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mehuge

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Originally posted by ulke
Trust me, get PF....
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Could you explain why FP is so much better than Conquer that means I have to give up MoPain3 and MoParry2 and AoM2 to purchase?



Possible spec with PF:

Aug Dex II
AoM II
Det IV
PF
FA II
IP
Purge

Cost: 55 pts

Possible spec without PF:

Aug Dex II
AoM III
MoParry II
MoPain II
Det IV
FA II
IP
Purge

Cost: 55 pts

My current spec:

Aug Str I
Aug Dex II
Tireless I
AoM II
MoParry II
MoPain III
Det III
FA II
IP
Purge

Cost: 51 pts
 
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old.Lethul

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Originally posted by mehuge
Could you explain why FP is so much better than Conquer that means I have to give up MoPain3 and MoParry2 and AoM2 to purchase?



Possible spec with PF:

Aug Dex II
AoM II
Det IV
PF
FA II
IP
Purge

Cost: 55 pts

Possible spec without PF:

Aug Dex II
AoM III
MoParry II
MoPain II
Det IV
FA II
IP
Purge

Cost: 55 pts

My current spec:

Aug Str I
Aug Dex II
Tireless I
AoM II
MoParry II
MoPain III
Det III
FA II
IP
Purge

Cost: 51 pts
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why PF is better than conqerearaer... cause its UNBREAKABLE, ok? its uber, its more than uber its the first RA expect det a zerk should get. MoParry is a waste, how often do you get attacked from the front arc?
 
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