Quickness on mincers?

[Arnor]

Thoughts?


gonna be a mincer in group with scouts/infils, and im wondering if I should go for max frontload or not?

evade 2 etc, is it worth capping quick?

 

[Whisperess]

Originally posted by Arnor
evade 2 etc, is it worth capping quick?

imo yes.

but what's this about you being a mincer - shame on you twoll!

 

[Arnor]

bored of midgard and normal rvr





my sc-config btw, w/o quick, and no sc'ed instruments, and only +slash on wpn/shield incase of respecc to thrust after style review.


Stats:
Str: 74 Int: 0 Hits: 199
Con: 76 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 76 Cha: 75
Qui: 0 Emp: 0

Resists:
Body: 26 Energy: 25 Crush: 27
Cold: 18 Matter: 26 Thrust: 26
Heat: 26 Spirit: 30 Slash: 26

Skills:
11 Stealth 11 Instruments
11 Slash



Focus:



Chest:
Imbue Points: 33 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 3 Stealth - 99% rough Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 16 Strength - 99% polished Firey Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 19 Charisma - 99% faceted Icy Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Heat Resist - 99% polished Heated Shielding Jewel
Utility: 56,3333320617676

Arms:
Imbue Points: 33 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 4 Stealth - 99% flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 5 Heat Resist - 99% flawed Heated Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 19 Strength - 99% faceted Firey Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 22 Constitution - 99% precious Earthen Essence Jewel
Utility: 57,3333358764648

Head:
Imbue Points: 32,5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 4 Stealth - 99% flawed Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 52 Hits - 99% faceted Blood Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Charisma - 99% rough Icy Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Slash Resist - 99% polished Watery Shielding Jewel
Utility: 55,6666679382324

Legs:
Imbue Points: 33 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99% precious Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 2: 19 Strength - 99% faceted Firey Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Slash Resist - 99% imperfect Watery Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 44 Hits - 99% polished Blood Essence Jewel
Utility: 52,3333358764648

Hands:
Imbue Points: 32,5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 50%
Gem 1: 5 Heat Resist - 99% flawed Heated Shielding Jewel
Gem 2: 25 Constitution - 99% flawless Earthen Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 22 Dexterity - 99% precious Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 4: 5 Slash Resist - 99% flawed Watery Shielding Jewel
Utility: 51,3333320617676

Feet:
Imbue Points: 31,5 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 70%
Gem 1: 2 Instruments - 99% uncut Vapor Fervor Sigil
Gem 2: 25 Dexterity - 99% flawless Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Crush Resist - 99% polished Firey Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 5 Slash Resist - 99% flawed Watery Shielding Jewel
Utility: 54,6666641235352

Right Hand:
Imbue Points: 33 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 6 Slash - 99% polished Watery War Sigil
Gem 2: 16 Dexterity - 99% polished Vapor Essence Jewel
Gem 3: 3 Crush Resist - 99% rough Firey Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 1 Body Resist - 99% raw Dusty Shielding Jewel
Utility: 48,6666679382324

Left Hand:
Imbue Points: 33 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: 30%
Gem 1: 5 Slash - 99% imperfect Watery War Sigil
Gem 2: 9 Matter Resist - 99% polished Earthen Shielding Jewel
Gem 3: 5 Crush Resist - 99% flawed Firey Shielding Jewel
Gem 4: 2 Thrust Resist - 99% uncut Airy Shielding Jewel
Utility: 57

Two Handed:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Ranged:
Imbue Points: 0 of 28 (99% Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0

Neck:
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 10 Body Resist
Effect 3: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 10 Thrust Resist
Utility: 80

Cloak:
Name: Cape of Corruscating Harmony
Level: 51 Quality: 5
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 13 Charisma
Effect 2: 13 Dexterity
Effect 3: 13 Strength
Effect 4: 8 Energy Resist
Utility: 42

Jewel:
Name: Gem of Spirit Abhorrent
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 7 Body Resist
Effect 2: 7 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 7 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 7 Energy Resist
Utility: 56

Belt:
Name: Scurceol's Belt
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 7 Strength
Effect 2: 7 Constitution
Effect 3: 10 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 10 Energy Resist
Utility: 49,3333320617676

Right Ring:
Name: Shattered and Reforged Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 5
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 3 Instruments
Effect 2: 16 Charisma
Effect 3: 44 Hits
Effect 4: 7 Thrust Resist
Utility: 50,6666641235352

Left Ring:
Name: Shattered and Reforged Ring
Level: 51 Quality: 5
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 3 Instruments
Effect 2: 16 Charisma
Effect 3: 44 Hits
Effect 4: 7 Thrust Resist
Utility: 50,6666641235352

Right Wrist:
Name: Bracer of Eyes
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 15 Hits
Effect 2: 8 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 8 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 8 Body Resist
Utility: 51,75

Left Wrist:
Name: Charismatic Bracer
Level: 0 Quality: 0
Bonus: 0
Effect 1: 4 Charisma
Effect 2: 3 Instruments
Effect 3: 10 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 12 Spirit Resist
Utility: 61,6666641235352

 

[Glottis_Xanadu]

I believe quickness helps a bit with evade chances, so you do want it up with your sc template.
The template floating around from the VN boards (33.5/28 on each item) only uses +slash on the helmet, sword and shield, so not too big a deal to chance that (helmet being pretty cheap).
Not sure on the damage difference with +75 quickness and without it so cannot help you there.
Regards, Glottis

 

[skile]

Just get IP-SoS-Purge and AP before it, then, why not .

 

[Cawr]

Er if your gonna be a frontloading minstrel then 43 slash would have been the best option but considering you'll be grouped with scouts/infs then I assume you'll be going for the 30 stealth. Might aswell cap qui if you can fit it in, let mercfiltrators and scout bows do the serious damage.

 

[K0nah]

evade is your only defence and u aint gonna be 2-shotting anyone with a mincer ^^ so cap qui.

 

[Vireb]

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
I believe quickness helps a bit with evade chances, so you do want it up with your sc template.
The template floating around from the VN boards (33.5/28 on each item) only uses +slash on the helmet, sword and shield, so not too big a deal to chance that (helmet being pretty cheap).
Not sure on the damage difference with +75 quickness and without it so cannot help you there.
Regards, Glottis

or just swap the stats on helm with gloves/boots and pay even less 150g for chain boots or gloves ?

 

[iluvatur]

two best specs for minstrel = 50/30/30 ... or 50/44 ( slight autotrain) tho latter is mainly pure group spec ( not stealth group obviously)

i thought evade was 50% dex 50% qui? and a fully buffed mincer hasnt got bad defense at all....

cap it if you can spare the points imo

your DD's will do substantial damage .. so max your defense

 

[Eggy]

Cap it if j00 want t0 live

 

[Garnet]

Originally posted by Glottis_Xanadu
I believe quickness helps a bit with evade chances, so you do want it up with your sc template.
The template floating around from the VN boards (33.5/28 on each item) only uses +slash on the helmet, sword and shield, so not too big a deal to chance that (helmet being pretty cheap).
Not sure on the damage difference with +75 quickness and without it so cannot help you there.
Regards, Glottis

omg the first post ive seen from you that isnt a flame against Midgard ;o

 

[Belomar]

Ahahh! Twoll inc on Albion! Take cover!

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

Originally posted by Belomar
Ahahh! Twoll inc on Albion! Take cover!

hehe

 

[kirennia]

Originally posted by Garnet
omg the first post ive seen from you that isnt a flame against Midgard ;o

doh, and there was me thinking that a thread involving glottis in wouldnt of contained that exact joke about him when he tries to be sensible, like it has every other time hes posted a helpful topic


As for quickness mate, I'd highly recommend capping it if possible; capping your evade chance with no loss of damage 'over time' is worth it

 

[Ialkarn]

Increase quickness gonna decrease your cap damage and you get advantage doing it ,in terms of damage output,only after a certain number of swings.
Since you are not a tank you aren't supposed to spend all your time hitting stuff,as mincer you have loads things to do:that 'll prolly force you to interrupt your fights,switch targets,mezz , demezz,etc.. that risk to give you a certain delay in your fights,restarting your swing timer outside combat.

But instead to ask in Bw I would Pm a proper Mincer


p.s. you wont evade much.if you espect to evade to save your ass..roll an infiltrator

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by Ialkarn
Increase quickness gonna decrease your cap damage and you get advantage doing it ,in terms of damage output,only after a certain number of swings.
Since you are not a tank you aren't supposed to spend all your time hitting stuff,as mincer you have loads things to do:that 'll prolly force you to interrupt your fights,switch targets,mezz , demezz,etc.. that risk to give you a certain delay in your fights,restarting your swing timer outside combat.

But instead to ask in Bw I would Pm a proper Mincer


p.s. you wont evade much.if you espect to evade to save your ass..roll an infiltrator

HAH!

I had dodger2 on my troll zerker!


thx for the help, still not decided yet though, but im leaning towards cap quick if i can fit it.

 

[Kagato.]

Originally posted by Arnor
Thoughts?


gonna be a mincer in group with scouts/infils, and im wondering if I should go for max frontload or not?

evade 2 etc, is it worth capping quick?

Thought you quit, you over-grown hamster

 

[syri]

i got dodger 3 on syri, though most would probably say it's ott, i like it cause it gives me enough evades to solo some diamond mobs in df, and is pretty decent for rvr too.
for quickness, i'd suggest not to cap it, but certainly don't ignore it. just put a bit of bonus in there to quick.

 

[Arnor]

Re: Re: Quickness on mincers?

Originally posted by Kagato.
Thought you quit, you over-grown hamster

I did, then some mates and me decided to try out the final aspect of rvr, stealthwars


if this sucks, i aint gonna be back till ToA, do the Ml's for my 6-7 lvl 50's uke: and go inactive till Rvr-expansion