Quick or Strength for valewalker?

Ronso

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Want a vw for duelling and soloing . Dont want to hit so slow it feels like Im lagging . Would it be better if I aimed for a 20 plus quick cap template rather than strength ? Still hit hard enough and bring up my parry evade rate a lot more .
 

Kaun_IA

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i went 10 qui, 10 con, 10 str at start...

so i have 250 qui whit aug qui 2 now :D
thats whit 75 qui in temp (im a celt allso)

and this is how my temp looks like :) and it works very well so far for me... im 99% solo enyways

LOKI Build Report
Name: VW
Race: Celt
Class: Valewalker
Level: 50

Two-Handed
Item Utility: 767.3
Build Utility: 767.3
Useable Utility: 764.0
TOA Utility: 299.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Statistic
Strength: 100/101
Constitution: 75/75
Dexterity: 86/85
Quickness: 75/75
Intelligence: 86/85
Piety: 0/75
Charisma: 0/75
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 232/240
Power: 0/25

Resistance
Body: 24/26
Cold: 26/26
Heat: 19/26
Energy: 4/26
Matter: 14/26
Spirit: 20/26+5
Crush: 27/26+2
Thrust: 20/26
Slash: 25/26+3

Skill
Parry: 3/11
Scythe: 11/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 26/26
Dexterity: 10/26
Intelligence: 10/26
Hits: 40/200

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 10/50
Power Pool: 6/25
Casting Speed: 5/10
Spell Range: 4/10
Spell Damage: 4/10
Style Damage: 2/10
Melee Damage: 10/10
Melee Combat Speed: 10/10

edit: im improveing it soon enyways :D
 

Alexandrinus

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max str is a must have
and like said if you choose Celt you will not have much problems capping 250
 

Ronso

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Kaun_IA said:
i went 10 qui, 10 con, 10 str at start...

so i have 250 qui whit aug qui 2 now :D
thats whit 75 qui in temp (im a celt allso)

and this is how my temp looks like :) and it works very well so far for me... im 99% solo enyways

LOKI Build Report
Name: VW
Race: Celt
Class: Valewalker
Level: 50

Two-Handed
Item Utility: 767.3
Build Utility: 767.3
Useable Utility: 764.0
TOA Utility: 299.0
PvE Utility: 0.0

Statistic
Strength: 100/101
Constitution: 75/75
Dexterity: 86/85
Quickness: 75/75
Intelligence: 86/85
Piety: 0/75
Charisma: 0/75
Empathy: 0/75
Hits: 232/240
Power: 0/25

Resistance
Body: 24/26
Cold: 26/26
Heat: 19/26
Energy: 4/26
Matter: 14/26
Spirit: 20/26+5
Crush: 27/26+2
Thrust: 20/26
Slash: 25/26+3

Skill
Parry: 3/11
Scythe: 11/11

Cap Increase
Strength: 26/26
Dexterity: 10/26
Intelligence: 10/26
Hits: 40/200

TOA Bonus
Armour Factor: 10/50
Power Pool: 6/25
Casting Speed: 5/10
Spell Range: 4/10
Spell Damage: 4/10
Style Damage: 2/10
Melee Damage: 10/10
Melee Combat Speed: 10/10

edit: im improveing it soon enyways :D

any chance u could send me that template to have a look see ? :p
 

Ronso

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Alright then ..another question or two ..

The side style ..with 250 quick and red druid haste ..is it easy to get the side style off as easy as it would with the bm's by strafin it slightly ?

Also whats better when youre duelling ..

Parry reactionary and an anytime follow up incause it doesnt land
Evade reactionary and an anytime follow up incause it doesnt land
Hit the parry reactionary and the evade reactionary and just swing and a miss if it neither land ..saves end at least ..

Which has higher growth rate ..parry or evade or are they even ?

Does the side stun last the same as the back stun or longer/shorter?

Is it 'retarded' in a duel to ( imagine you are on 10% hps etc ) ..strafe a side stun or just get a side stun while he or she is strafing you and use that time to life tap some health back ?

A rr 4 spec for vw should be ...

purge 2 ip 2 or purge 2 mop 3 quick 2 or purge 2 ip 1 mop 2 quick 2


Best solo spec for vw ? 44 scythe should be enough ?
 

Commandment

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evade only gets effected by quickness after you go above the 250 quick mark.

but once you go above you lose points in damage !
 

Ronso

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Commandment said:
evade only gets effected by quickness after you go above the 250 quick mark.

but once you go above you lose points in damage !

Yeah I know that but to reach my 250 quick cap I will need aug quick 2 and 75 quickness in template . If I get above 75 in template then I can drop down to quick 1 or none -

Wont be going above 250 dont worry ! You taught my that for my nightshade before wajj :D
 

Raimo

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If u spec IP then dont go lower than IP2.
And back stun last longer than side stun!
Back stun is 8 seconds and side stun is 5 seconds
 

Kaun_IA

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i allwasy go for back stun... then side chain.... its 100% easyer to get off back stun than the side style if the target is moveing.

i allways try and get the parry chain.. its better than the evade one, atleast feels to me :p

side stun is load shoter than the back.

eny time i land back stun and then side chain... and the target doesnt have purge... hes dead... no matter the class.

im 50 scythe specc :) next patch 50 scythe will be PWN
 

Dracus

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If it helps, heres a high qui temp ;)

Statistics
STR:101/101 CON:75/75 DEX:81/80
QUI:88/89 INT:65/80 PIE:0/75
CHA:0/75 EMP:0/75
Hits:200/200
Power:0/25
AF:22/50

Resistances
Body: 25
Cold: 27
Heat: 27
Energy: 7+5
Matter: 14+5
Spirit: 4
Crush: 26+3
Slash: 26
Thrust: 24+2

Skills
Parry: 3
Scythe: 11
Staff: 4

Focuses

Bonuses
Spell Duration: 3
Spell Range: 4
Spell Damage: 4
Style Damage: 6
Melee Damage: 10
Melee Combat Speed: 10

cba with big spam, lemme know if u want item listing.

/Dracus
 

auroria

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ronso, ive hear that valks get or have some kind of frontalstyle that roots or slow their opponent alot? Heard about some guy doing that, then stepping back to lifetap, and just kept on going like that ;) No immunitytimer etc
 

Kaun_IA

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auroria said:
ronso, ive hear that valks get or have some kind of frontalstyle that roots or slow their opponent alot? Heard about some guy doing that, then stepping back to lifetap, and just kept on going like that ;) No immunitytimer etc

next patch
 

Alexandrinus

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load sof questions first
RR4 =IP2 Purge2 after this all the passives

what to use when you have a duel, depends on the class you play against,if you get alot of MoParry and have good envade you will use the reeactives against classes wich arent the full pwwner in melee.

If your enemy is a noob you will get your side style in very easy....but you will win the fight anyway,if he is one wich knows how to counter its not so easy....some do the lag....personally i dont do this because i think its lame.

With new patch you will get also a very good frontal root.

What i have noticed (becaus im now group friendly specced,i cannot kill the very good players anymore because of my new specc) is that IP2 Purge2 and MoParry and MoPain with MoStr and LW1 is a very good combination to solo any char down.

Nearly all the yanks go for 50S with new patch.thats for shure for soloing.
If you run in groups its no problem to stay at 44S,i personally like the insta disease very much (specially if you meet duos).

Back stun is best melee stun in game 9seconds,side stun 6s.
But side stun rocks if it works.(but also breaks mezz)

Best solo VW at with pure solo spec and solo template is Eliten maybe speak with him in game.
 

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