Question to all rvr's

[old.¥ØÐÄ]

How many of you guys that have chars 40+ or even 45+ have an alt that plays in the bgs and enjoys it in the bg more than emain ?

i personally have played in the bg's and i now have a 1/2 decent lvl in emain "37" and i think the bgs is by far more fun than emain , and also imo has a better rvr layout where better fights etc etc can take place . i just wondered if anybody agrees.

and no i dont prefer bg because they are similer cons . most con red/orange to me in emain now and a few purp. atm i only have 1 char in bg and she's lvl 25 so there is still loads of red cons running around .

 

[Aeiedil]

bg's aint very fun for me, then again my bg-level char is a regrowth\nature druid, so not best noted for solo ability :\ probably gonna reroll it sometime anyway. bg were designed specificly for rvr, emain was designed as a hunting grounds, and just happened to become the main rvr area. emain is not teh only place to rvr, its just the only place the lazy albs\mids cna be bothered to go to

 

[Danya]

I found the BGs about as fun as emain if not less, and I don't much like emain. I prefer a nice hunt in the gorge/yggdra/collory/uppland

 

[Eblessair]

in there bgs, there is more often times when neither sides are zerging, which is fun
emain is zerg all the time

 

[Khalen]

BG is indeed way more fun. Much better battles.

 

[old.Mousah]

i agree, bgs are more fun then rvr, but they shud concider to take away the bridge guards, would be more fun that way, most fights end up with the other army pulling the guards and most trying to run away and gets slaughtered by them :/

althoe my alt in bg is a scout, shud be fun rvr in emain with him aswell, as for my main, getting abit boring just running around and smack "tjockisar"(fatass trolls

but not much beat the big fight between albs-mids last night in emain, althoe i got killed in the middle of it i made 1500 rp

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[old.LandShark]

pffff. when in the BG's do you get stuff like mids with relic hiding in DC while albs and hibs standoff at MMG, and then charge through? That kind of stuff is amazing, more than makes up for boring "oh dear, a zerg" moments. Then again maybe playing a stealther helps, i can get away from zergs (at least temporarily) a lot of the time..

 

[sorusi]

Bah bgs arnt that fun if your caster..... 42234 snipers just waiting to place their arrows in you..

 

[Killgorde]

And there's me thinking BG's were there as a stepping stone for the less than able in order to gain experience....ah well, if peeps are going to play alt char's at the creche, it sure as hell makes relics easier to grab in the "real world"

BTW /salutes Aeiedil for well and truly buttf$%king me at AMG room yesterday.

 

[old.Odies]

I like bg's as well, but you can't really judge emain as a lvl 37, you are simply way too low.

- Odies

 

[Aeiedil]

nahnah killgorde you were unlucky, was the only time in a while i been fully buffed and had a 6-second bubble at the alb wall hehe im sure any other time id have been eating the wall

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

BGs are more about skill than levels...

...IF you can get a force who listens to orders, which is admittedly tough.

I have had 2 characters so far, first to level 43, this second to level 35, and i am having by far the most fun in RvR i have had with the level 35 on the third BG. for the following reasons.

no ganking, there is no skill in a level 50 group taking out level 30s.
alot less running thru empty zones looking for that 1 invader.

i agree that ultimately BGs are a stepping stone and practise zone for "real RvR".....but until i get close to my RR2 limit i am gonna stick with the RvR in BG cos its so much damn fun, and yes, there are big, and tactical battles going on.

I have so far led the defence of the keep with 12 mids against 40+ albs (finally defeating the attackers in the lords room).

assaulted and captured the keep initially.

wiped out a big alb army 3 times using ambushes and planned assaults.

used rams, wood for door repairs, almost (not quite) had a catapult going, and many many other good test bed situations.

the only person i dont agree with comments here is Aiediel, why make a druid if u enjoy solo, and to be honest, this game isnt a solo game anyway really, you will get loads more success teaming, that goes for RvR in emain/odins/hadrians/relics and all the BGs.

so, like i say, atm BGs way more fun, not looking forward to the weeks of levelling needed to get me from 35 to 50. however all the fun and importantly all the tactics i learn here, in leading forces and how to manage troops and situations will help me, my guild and my realm when i get "out there" into the "true" RvR.

regards all

Ferlash Goredon L35 Troll Skald <Defiance>

 

[Alrindel]

You can't compare the two. I have had fun in Thridanki with my little level 20 bard, especially because it's a totally new kind of combat to learn compared to the ranger. But it's not a fair comparison to battle in the main frontiers

Most fun: keep raids, keep retaking, relic raids, epic battles like the middie spear raid

Next best thing: skirmishing in the battlegrounds

Can't even be bothered to go out for it: running around emain looking for fighting, camping the alb wall, getting steamrolled by full groups of level 50 middies. If that's all there is to do, then I go trying to get some exp.

 

[hellopp]

Bg suck, once u get to many realm points u cnat even go !!!, also emain can be gr8 at sum points, as with the relic raid and all 3 realms kicking shit outta each other, now thast RvR

 

[Khalen]

Originally posted by hellopp
also emain can be gr8 at sum points, as with the relic raid and all 3 realms kicking shit outta each other, now thast RvR

Sure it is fun but it is not an event that happens every night...

 

[c0ngo]

Can't remember the last time I went 'normal' RvR with my main I find running around Emain a bit dull. Might try it again soon to see if it's any more enjoyable than I remember it.

It's just kill smaller/less powerfull grps until u meet a huge Mid/Hib army and get wiped out so I only really bring Congo out to RvR for keep takes/defences or relic raids/defences really.

The BG's however are lots more fun. It's easy to find a fight cause the map is so small.

I do borrow a scout from time to time and that's quite enjoyable in Emain though.

 

[Eleasias]

BG's = wet dream for the wannabe l337 stealthers who dont have the patience to actually level up one to a proper level, and then basing all their arguments on how stealthers work on the BG experiences ...

 

[old.¥ØÐÄ]

to those who say true rvr is keep raids , relic raids , 3 way realm battles . you obviously dont read boards often enough .
there ARE keeps raids in bg's ..... There are often 3 ways battles with hibs/mids/albs in one place . ok so we dont got relic raids , but if they happen those who have chars high enough log them in and go on them anyway .. relics raids aint that good cos 90% of the time there is no defenders .

as for elesias your a dick dont you read the threads either ? most the people who have commented on this thread have chars lvl45+ and some lvl 50 . and they say bg is more fun . so how u can say they just leet wannabe's then u must be pretty fuggin dumb . as for those who aint got a char 40+ r even 35+ they/we aint all junkies who only care about exp and rp's like some rp farming fags i can mention . this game for 99% of the daoc population is about having FUN. " you know it thats sort of thing that brings a smile to your face " . the way you knock things that make many people happy and enjoy this game a LOT more . makes me think your one of those who sits in emain 24hrs a day looking for people who are easy for you to kill and if you get killed your sat at home in a really bad temper bashing head on keyboard cos somebody killed you . and then say FOOK i Suck best go get some more exp so my char is even more leet .
there is NO such thing as leet in this game , there are those who play 24/7 and all they think about is rp's and exp and those who like to take there time and have some fun .

just because your a rp/exp junkie doesnt mean everybody else has to conform to your thinking . some folks dont have time/patience or dont even give a shit about hitting 45+ . do you think everybody has to be lvl 50 to be worth playing this game? .

as for myself being 37 and not really experiencing rvr thats bolox also . sorry but its true. if i went to rvr "emain" at lvl 1 as often as i do now it doesnt make me any less unaware of how emain rvr is . as stated above its zerg or be zerged . sure if i was solo i wouldnt live very long . but neither would a lvl 50 nowadays the amount of lvl 45+ enemy groups running around .
i'd imagine the life span of a lvl 50 and a lvl 37 solo NON-stealther in emain would be roughly he same amount of time .

 

[Release]

Originally posted by Eblessair
in there bgs, there is more often times when neither sides are zerging, which is fun
emain is zerg all the time

Yeh but you can beat when the different zergs meet each other in the bowl and you get a 3 way fight going.
Mids normaly in middle as we like to sit at AMG and often get Albs one side and Hibs other, is most fun

Also agree with Odies, lvl 37 is just way to low to judge what Emain is like.

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

i agree

i gotta agree with you Yoda

and another aspect why BG is better is lag issues............sure going on a relic raid or defense is the "ultimate" rvr experience, but then you are 99% likely to be suffering serious lag and frame rate issues and i say that with a good spec pc and ADSL, its the engine that cant hack it.

I have had 50 man battles on bg and not got any lag issues, i dont know if this is less players or a smaller zone, i suspect a combination of both.

however a 50 man battle is big enough for anyone to think, Wow! major battle!

the BGs offer variety and more IMPORTANTLY - levels 20-35 are FAR more easily attainable than level 50 for the vast majority of people, i work so cannot play as much as id like , and i love this game, it takes WAY too much of my time, i have levelled 1 character to level 43, got bored of sitting at the epic zone getting half a level after 3 or 4 nights hard XPing. the xp bar just moves too slow. however i levelled my new character to level 20 in a weekend, and bang, straight into the BGs...another week of levelling and i can take my choice of bg 2, or bg 3 (when correct level is attained).

again, Yoda is correct, there is no L33t in this game, there is only time invested, now dont get me wrong, i do eventually hope to get a character to 50, cos i wanna experience darkness falls and epic armours and stuff like that. but players who say they have more knowledge or astonishingly think they are better players because they have level 50 tagged to their sigs is total, complete, and utter bullshit. this game is not the most skilful game out there, sure there are tactics and skills to use, but in the end it comes down to time invested learning the land, having a good quick bar set up, more importantly having a good guild, or RvR group and allies in general.

in fact, alot of the level 50s who post on this board have not gone much further than RP farming and ganking greys, perhaps you should try getting you and your other little kiddie mates together and try organising some forces, raids, or keep captures, i cant comment as i dont know if you have already done this....maybe you have, maybe you havent, but your tone comes accross as condescending and ill informed.

people who mock BGs have not properly tried them im sure, and people who have some kind of level ego, i have no time for either. guess what, ive led a force that has taken a BG keep, defended a BG keep, taken a "real" keep, and been on loads of relic defenses and relic raids..........im level 35. its the guy behind the keyboard that makes the difference.

its fun, enjoy it, and if you dont enjoy it, stop posting negative ill informed bullshit. OR even better come along to bg 30-35, i do truly enjoy killing BG specced stealthers and archers.

Ferlash Goredon Troll Skald <defiance> archers, casters, rezzers, im not picky, bring em all, another notch on the hammer handle.

 

[old.Tzeentch]

In my opinion, people like the BGs more since there is less space, (so less chance to lose the enemy, forcing conflict), not as much 'zerging' going on, less 'control' required (due to lower amount of people) and not as much worry, since the effects of who wins and loses are contained in this little world that has been created.

I guess I'd call it RvR for those who can't handle the 'grown up' RvR, with the huge areas, keeps to control, relics to take care of etc.

 

[old.Arya]

/me wonders what peeps go thru whole leveling again ;D

 

[Aeiedil]

imo rvr in bg is not the same as rvr in the frontiers. one reason is at level 40+ the classes become a lot more defined, where as at level 20-34 they are still not as seperate. as an example at level 20 a druid will have 1 quickheal at most, at level 50 he frequently has 2, and can usually whip a minstrel back to next week. in the bg this is is not the case. also the proportions of "high" bg stealthers is unlike that in the frontiers due to not so many having patience to level to frontier level.

imo they are seperate worlds, and while being one way to train for rvr, its not the ideal way. imo it does people good to go to the frontiers sometimes at any level to see how it works, i myself have been rvring on my druid since level 14 and my nightshade since level 13. on my druid i never saw anythign above orange, because it was when the servers were just starting and before the pl'ers had come out to play, but on my ns i saw a lot of purple. eventually the purple turned to red, then a long time later they became orange. now there is only the one more colour change to go and from the difficulty in killing a red, an orange seems not so bad, so a yellow will imo seem that much easier than to someone whos not been in rvr so much

Your local pincushion signing out

 

[Release]

Re: i agree

Originally posted by old.Krogar_Thane
in fact, alot of the level 50s who post on this board have not gone much further than RP farming and ganking greys, perhaps you should try getting you and your other little kiddie mates together and try organising some forces, raids, or keep captures, i cant comment as i dont know if you have already done this....maybe you have, maybe you havent, but your tone comes accross as condescending and ill informed.

Hehe, believe me we do alot of raids and captures, nearly every night in Emain there is battle going on over who wants a keep, sometimes it changes hands 2-3 times. Other than that its big mg battles, little fights between 1-2grps etc.

 

[Hexenjaeger]

I like BG because it allows to RvR with my alt, who is bit small for Emain, and completely different (skald and sb) from my main (thane) by the style of play... So as soon as my alts are ready for Emain i will be able to know their strong/weak sides... Quite useful... Also BG is sometimes just for fun, when I am bit drunk and cant play my alt because of mjollner-cast-danger, I go to BG with my skald, run around, hack enemies in pieces...

 

[old.m0000]

bgs just let u try out and have fun on a new class without having to level it to 45 for you to find any decent con fights.

for general fights bgs > "real" rvr

but of course real rvr has relics and keeps n stuff that makes it fun - i just dont want to have to level my scout to 45 before i can use it.