Question for people that recently left their guild

[Ziva]

First of all i would like to say this. I think it is very important to have fun in this game and this implies beeing in a guild with people u feel comfortable with.

But what i don't understand is this: why do people leave a guild they have been in for so long without beeing honest about it? Why do people make up excuses like "sorry i'm gonna quit this game for a while" or "no i wanna go guildless for a while" and u find them a few hours/days later tagged with another guild.

Call me stupid but i really don't understand this. Is it so hard for people to be honest about things like this? Do they have so little respect for their (ex) fellow guildies or do they give them so little credit to just tell them they feel it's time to explore another guild? Sure it hurts to see people leave u but it hurts much more to see they really did not care for u at all.

Hope someone can explain this to me cause i am lost somewhere...

 

[fenikske]

it doesn't mean that because you leave a guild that you can't be friends , if a guild can't satisfy ya needs its maybe better to change then getting bored and quit the game after a while ... oki it's understandeble that when a highlevel leaves a guild it feels like betrayal but it only seems that way , better change guilds then change realm / server or in the worst scenario the game ....

thats my opinion anyway

jamella(albion)

 

[Hestetun]

I agree. After Eternal Warrior was disbanded I havent find a home yet and tried much. Tuahta de Dannan was the best guild I have been in after Eternal Warriors. And the game is about having fun.

Some may call me a guild changer, but I got alot xp within the guilds and learnd alot, but when all comes togheter find a guild enjoy and satesfide u the best way. There u still can learn. I am sure its cool to be called uber by all in ur guild and if that was hold u to an guild only u are on there falce premitions and thats sad I think, but if u like it there and team alot with em, then stay.... have fun

 

[Falcone]

Seems to me that when your in a guild you tend to do most things with that guild , if you leave a guild a whole new world opens up .. not only do you have to find ppl to grp with but you have to prove yourself in every grp .. it gets to be quite a challenge and very different from the guild world.But of course you also get to meet new ppl and maybe some old friends.

Being out of a guild for a few weeks , for some ppl , can refresh a well worn game ... kept me playing !

 

[Novamir]

if you leave your guild after dinging 50 to join an rvr guild, i think you're very shallow. you owe something to the guild, and should have loyalty. If rvr side of things isn't too active, start guild RvR groups + invite people 40+ from guild. ask to be made RvR commander and try to recruit guildless 50s who like rvr and 40+ peeps who will soon join in with rvr. far too few people are proactive about things like that.

 

[Exiled]

Originally posted by Novamir
if you leave your guild after dinging 50 to join an rvr guild, i think you're very shallow. you owe something to the guild, and should have loyalty. If rvr side of things isn't too active, start guild RvR groups + invite people 40+ from guild. ask to be made RvR commander and try to recruit guildless 50s who like rvr and 40+ peeps who will soon join in with rvr. far too few people are proactive about things like that.

 

[Wuren]

Maybe they feel that they dont really owe the guild that much when it comes to the lvling part, I hardly see any guild groups xping togheter.

 

[vulcan1]

Originally posted by Novamir
if you leave your guild after dinging 50 to join an rvr guild, i think you're very shallow. you owe something to the guild, and should have loyalty. If rvr side of things isn't too active, start guild RvR groups + invite people 40+ from guild. ask to be made RvR commander and try to recruit guildless 50s who like rvr and 40+ peeps who will soon join in with rvr. far too few people are proactive about things like that.

Theres exceptions to every rule. What about the people that start a guild in beta, carry it over to commercial and take it to being at the time to being one of the top five guilds in Hibernia.

As a GM you give loyalty you expect expect loyalty.
Its a two way street.

You know what guild im talking about Nova and so does Ziva, I wouldnt call myself shallow, selfish, or anything else etc:

I for one always put the guild and the membership first and felt I had no alternative left to me than to /gc quit as a GM.

A new guild was formed and members have started to follow. We never approached or coerced any of the guild member we left behind. Some of these I suspect is what this thread is all about.

This game is rightly what Ziva has stated and thats about having fun, well we as a guild have gone back to the basics rebuilt and started again its been a slow process but were back having fun.
Its a persons right as a paying customer, to choose where they want to be.

I have no problem with anyone in rvr related guilds. I still prefer the old way, guild expo, guild rvr, mixing with other people from other guilds. I dont mind spending three or four nights a week helping to level anyone not just guild members.
That to me is the fun of a guild, *Interaction* and theres a lot of people out there that think the same

If people leave because theyre not having fun anymore can anyone blame them. Everyone pays to play this game and to be with friends, when that starts to become a chore then you look for a better option.
Its always sad when someone you have known for close on a year leaves for another guild, its even sadder to see guilds break up for whatever reasons........

Ive found that people go where there comfortable and where they feel wanted, where their friends are. Does that make them wrong?

Somehow I dont think so

 

[ilaya]

If this game was meant to be played PvP all the time.. everyone would start at lvl 50 and there wouldn't be any mobs or drops.
Guilds are what this game is all about, not bloody rp's. (and by guilds, i dont just mean a guild full of 50's.. i'm talking of 50's, 40's, 30's etc.. pass on your knowledge for gods sake.. or will that mean u call call people noobs?)

Ilaya Dasquirrelslayer (GM Hearts of Fire)

 

[Amadon]

Originally posted by Ziva
First of all i would like to say this. I think it is very important to have fun in this game and this implies beeing in a guild with people u feel comfortable with.

But what i don't understand is this: why do people leave a guild they have been in for so long without beeing honest about it? Why do people make up excuses like "sorry i'm gonna quit this game for a while" or "no i wanna go guildless for a while" and u find them a few hours/days later tagged with another guild.

Call me stupid but i really don't understand this. Is it so hard for people to be honest about things like this? Do they have so little respect for their (ex) fellow guildies or do they give them so little credit to just tell them they feel it's time to explore another guild? Sure it hurts to see people leave u but it hurts much more to see they really did not care for u at all.

Hope someone can explain this to me cause i am lost somewhere...

the lack of honesty is probably more because they do care and find it hard to say something that they know will hurt, to people they care about, so they rather make an excuse and delude themselves into thinking that it's better that way.. it's a very common human trait in my experience

my 2 pennies

 

[Hestetun]

I must say I defend the rvr guilds, so if its only 50ish there. They pass xp there to, fight tactics and so on. And I also think its wise to have rvr guilds. They wrok hard to be good at. That can u see if u drive with Wuren & Co and of drive with randoms. With Llaw Arian u will allways get more xp and better chanse of surviving and thats best and thats where the rps XP lais

 

[old.Laryssa]

Originally posted by Novamir
if you leave your guild after dinging 50 to join an rvr guild, i think you're very shallow. you owe something to the guild, and should have loyalty. If rvr side of things isn't too active, start guild RvR groups + invite people 40+ from guild. ask to be made RvR commander and try to recruit guildless 50s who like rvr and 40+ peeps who will soon join in with rvr. far too few people are proactive about things like that.

ty novamir - i have nothing to add.

 

[Ziva]

Thanx Amadon, i read all the replies, so thank u all for them, but u seem to be the only one that understood my question because my post was not about why people leave their guild (cause that's basically none of my business imho). My thoughts: U pay, u play, your way

I just find it very hard to understand why people can't just tell the truth about why they leave a guild to the people they leave behind. I'd rather hear from someone in person that he/she left or reguilded then hearing from someone else or accidently bump into someone and find out like that.

But i guess your answer makes sense Amadon. Maybe people rather not tell the truth about why they left to prevent ex-guildies from getting hurt. And basically also choose to leave them behind with a lot of misunderstandings or bad thoughts which really are unnecessary and could be prevented if someone was honest about it. I guess beeing honest is not easy for some people

 

[old.chesnor]

Some people just want an easy life when playing this game. Some guilds I have been in are so far up their own arse, playing the game gets really annoying when you log. Instead of exping or trotting off to the frontiers for some RvR, people insist on highly wound up debates about the state of the realm, or this other guild sucks, or this alliance sucks etc..etc...

I am sure we have met people in our guilds who barely talk and never get involved in the flaming or politics. These are the people who are most likely to just want to quietly leave the guild when they make the decision to leave.

One thing I have noticed in this game, is some guilds get really Nazi about people leaving. I know trust, reliability and loyalty are important in this game, but more important than all that is that everyone who plays enjoys themselves. If you don't enjoy chatting/arguing/flaming/being in your guild, leave. If you don't want to explain yourself, don't. Just say goodbye, and thanks. And return any items you ponced out of the guild vault you thieving scum (j/k) ;P

 

[Gorguss]

It's very hard to announce to the guild that you are thinking about leaving.
Usually you get responds like "please don't leave" and things like that and it makes it harder to leave the guild naturally.
I still think it's very rude to leave a guild but we must try to understand.

People usually have good reasons to leave.

 

[2facedington]

It's also a damn shame when you are in a guild and some people find it their holy right to constantly moan criticise deflate and generally whine - even though they are never present at any meetings hunts events gatherings etc don't you think - wow that really grates on lots of members :/

Hell if I knew someone like that in a guild I'd bugger off too .....

 

[old.Charonel]

you mean whining about the game in general, about tanks who can't keep aggro even before you start casting? or about the actual guild

 

[Ensceptifica]

Originally posted by 2facedington
It's also a damn shame when you are in a guild and some people find it their holy right to constantly moan criticise deflate and generally whine - even though they are never present at any meetings hunts events gatherings etc don't you think - wow that really grates on lots of members :/

I've seen a lot of this kind of people. I think it's best if you let a GM or officer know how you feel about them, and what you think the whining and complaining is doing to the guild. Then the officer / GM can settle it with that person, and if it doesn't stop, I think it would be a good move to kick such a person. Not talking about someone having an occasional bad day or an occasional whine, but if it's all a person does, get him to stop or leave.

 

[Spudgie]

Originally posted by vulcan1

Ive found that people go where there comfortable and where they feel wanted, where their friends are. Does that make them wrong?

Somehow I dont think so

Thanks Vulc, explained it for me in 1 sentence.

 

[gunner440]

Originally posted by hestetun
With Llaw Arian u will allways get more xp

O,o ?¿