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cHodAX
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Was wondering how effective you find the final damage shield and pbae in both PvE and RvR. I have a couple of spare respec stones and fancy a play, just wanted to know what I could expect. Ty 
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bigchief
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Damage shield in rvr is kinda pointless. Like lets all play tickle the savage In high end pve its again just a tickle. If you have a bot with mcl2, rp and 20 power pots you could kill something eventually.
Pbae did ~450damage on gobbos .. was a fair bit less in rvr. Once ppl get over the shock of a necro pbaeing they just stun and its the usual scenario (except you need to get right to the front to do anything as a servant spec).
In high end pve its again just a tickle. If you have a bot with mcl2, rp and 20 power pots you could kill something eventually.Pbae did ~450damage on gobbos .. was a fair bit less in rvr. Once ppl get over the shock of a necro pbaeing they just stun and its the usual scenario (except you need to get right to the front to do anything as a servant spec).
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cHodAX
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Seems kind of odd, with the 10dps damage shield I can drop a Tower Gaurdian high pop pretty fast and that is lvl65. I was thinking that with 1.65 and the extra HP and resists on pet it might make the Servant spec very viable for seal farming, 21dps damage shield should be hitting for reasonable damage. Guess I need to bite the bullet and try it.
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punchy
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...and post the results! would be interesting to know how viable servant spec is...
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Arakasi01
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I imagine with 21Dps damage shield (unless it gets nerfed like cabalists) a buffbot that takes pet to total melee absorb 86%, you can pretty much kill anything with only using heal over time on pet.
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kameh
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Remember damage shield only lasts 30 secs then you have to recast it I think.
Also right now Necromancers have been "nerfed" a little by Mythic so that thier armour degrads in combat. It doesn't sound like much but apparently it's way over the top with all armour pieces and jewlery etc wearing out at the same rate. Not bad that we get worse wear on equipment than every other class and can't even get the full stat, proc etc benefits from it..
Also right now Necromancers have been "nerfed" a little by Mythic so that thier armour degrads in combat. It doesn't sound like much but apparently it's way over the top with all armour pieces and jewlery etc wearing out at the same rate. Not bad that we get worse wear on equipment than every other class and can't even get the full stat, proc etc benefits from it..
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cHodAX
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Power usage should absurdly low if you play it like a focus shield setup. You can sit much of the time and then throw in a heal. Having a 50enh moa4 buffbot helps
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ilum
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Yeah, and its get better next patch when con transfer for even a more melee resistant pet.
Focus shield gets nerfed on Cabalist, but it cant get nerfed on Necromancer...its not a focus shield...its a casted damage shield that last 30 sec. And the shade cant take aggro, so I guess the pet naturally has to take all the aggro from dps shield.
Focus shield gets nerfed on Cabalist, but it cant get nerfed on Necromancer...its not a focus shield...its a casted damage shield that last 30 sec. And the shade cant take aggro, so I guess the pet naturally has to take all the aggro from dps shield.
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cHodAX
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Got some important news on this, requires further testing tomorrow to be sure but it seems that Necro damage shield is BUGGED. 11dps shield is returning the same damage as the 21dps shield regardless of resists and it seems regardless of weapon speed.
I tested with my cleric using a 4.0 spd 16.2dps hammer, the damaged returned via the shield varied from 37 upto 56 and that was testing with BOTH 11dps/21dps shields. If this is correct then Death Servant spec is not delivering the damage it should.
I worked on the assumption of 21dps x 4.0spd weapon = roughly 84 damage. Both the lvl24 and lvl44 shields returned the same damage when the lvl24 should be roughly half the damage of the lvl44. Not once did the lvl44 damage hit close to what it should and that is regardless of resists as I tested with and without items.
Anyway.... Will post more when I can confirm it.
I tested with my cleric using a 4.0 spd 16.2dps hammer, the damaged returned via the shield varied from 37 upto 56 and that was testing with BOTH 11dps/21dps shields. If this is correct then Death Servant spec is not delivering the damage it should.
I worked on the assumption of 21dps x 4.0spd weapon = roughly 84 damage. Both the lvl24 and lvl44 shields returned the same damage when the lvl24 should be roughly half the damage of the lvl44. Not once did the lvl44 damage hit close to what it should and that is regardless of resists as I tested with and without items.
Anyway.... Will post more when I can confirm it.
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I respecced my necro to 47 servant / 26 sight today so I need a bit more time to test the spec out. Necro has 342 DEX and 270 INT fully buffed and pet is fully buffed with 50 enhance MotA2 bot.
The L47 PBAoE has damage cap of 698, tested it on a L50 player with 22% spirit resist and it hit for 403 damage. So far I've noticed that it does less than 250 damage on purp diamond mobs.
The L45 DD 'shout' did 217 damage on the same player with 22% spirit resist and does 150-200 on diamond mobs.
The L44 damage shield won't kill anything quickly but as long as you keep casting it every 30 seconds and throw in the odd HoT (which incidentally seems a lot better with higher servant spec), you'll get the job done.... just not in any great rush.
I still have access to the L25 powertap through the Deathsight line; that does 150-180 damage so still returns an amount of power equal to the mob's level.
The L47 PBAoE has damage cap of 698, tested it on a L50 player with 22% spirit resist and it hit for 403 damage. So far I've noticed that it does less than 250 damage on purp diamond mobs.
The L45 DD 'shout' did 217 damage on the same player with 22% spirit resist and does 150-200 on diamond mobs.
The L44 damage shield won't kill anything quickly but as long as you keep casting it every 30 seconds and throw in the odd HoT (which incidentally seems a lot better with higher servant spec), you'll get the job done.... just not in any great rush.
I still have access to the L25 powertap through the Deathsight line; that does 150-180 damage so still returns an amount of power equal to the mob's level.
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cHodAX
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Oh and let me add, I tested again with a 3.0spd weapon and got the almost exact same results.
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Cybwyn
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Just tested 4 of the damage shields against my BB who has a 16.2 DPS, 3.4spd mace.
Using L44 shield
*** Chat Log Opened: Fri Dec 19 20:34:56 2003
[20:34:59] You enter combat mode and target [the abomination]
[20:34:59] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:34:59] abomination does 39 extra damage to you!
[20:34:59] You are hit for 39 damage.
[20:35:02] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 18 damage!
[20:35:02] You critical hit for an additional 2 damage!
[20:35:02] abomination does 44 extra damage to you!
[20:35:02] You are hit for 44 damage.
[20:35:06] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 14 damage!
[20:35:06] abomination does 55 extra damage to you!
[20:35:06] You are hit for 55 damage.
[20:35:10] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 14 damage!
[20:35:10] You critical hit for an additional 3 damage!
[20:35:10] abomination does 41 extra damage to you!
[20:35:10] You are hit for 41 damage.
[20:35:13] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 13 damage!
[20:35:13] abomination does 45 extra damage to you!
[20:35:13] You are hit for 45 damage.
[20:35:16] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:35:16] You critical hit for an additional 14 damage!
[20:35:16] abomination does 56 extra damage to you!
[20:35:16] You are hit for 56 damage.
[20:35:20] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:35:20] The abomination is enveloped by searing heat!
[20:35:20] You hit the abomination for 48 damage!
[20:35:20] abomination does 54 extra damage to you!
[20:35:20] You are hit for 54 damage.
[20:35:24] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
[20:35:24] You critical hit for an additional 2 damage!
[20:35:24] abomination does 39 extra damage to you!
[20:35:24] You are hit for 39 damage.
[20:35:24] The bone spikes fade from abomination.
[20:35:25] The abomination is enveloped by searing heat!
[20:35:25] You hit the abomination for 39 damage!
*** Chat Log Closed: Fri Dec 19 20:35:26 2003
Using L32 Shield
*** Chat Log Opened: Fri Dec 19 20:36:18 2003
[20:36:21] You target [the abomination]
[20:36:21] You examine the abomination. It is friendly.
[20:36:22] You enter combat mode and target [the abomination]
[20:36:22] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
[20:36:22] abomination does 58 extra damage to you!
[20:36:22] You are hit for 58 damage.
[20:36:25] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 13 damage!
[20:36:25] abomination does 57 extra damage to you!
[20:36:25] You are hit for 57 damage.
[20:36:29] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
[20:36:29] abomination does 52 extra damage to you!
[20:36:29] You are hit for 52 damage.
[20:36:32] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 11 damage!
[20:36:32] abomination does 40 extra damage to you!
[20:36:32] You are hit for 40 damage.
[20:36:36] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:36:36] abomination does 37 extra damage to you!
[20:36:36] You are hit for 37 damage.
[20:36:39] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 12 damage!
[20:36:39] abomination does 39 extra damage to you!
[20:36:39] You are hit for 39 damage.
[20:36:43] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
[20:36:43] abomination does 55 extra damage to you!
[20:36:43] You are hit for 55 damage.
[20:36:46] The bone spikes fade from abomination.
[20:36:47] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
*** Chat Log Closed: Fri Dec 19 20:36:48 2003
Using L24 Shield
*** Chat Log Opened: Fri Dec 19 20:37:10 2003
[20:37:13] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
[20:37:13] You critical hit for an additional 7 damage!
[20:37:13] abomination does 55 extra damage to you!
[20:37:13] You are hit for 55 damage.
[20:37:17] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 16 damage!
[20:37:17] abomination does 48 extra damage to you!
[20:37:17] You are hit for 48 damage.
[20:37:20] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 12 damage!
[20:37:20] abomination does 51 extra damage to you!
[20:37:20] You are hit for 51 damage.
[20:37:23] You miss!
[20:37:27] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 14 damage!
[20:37:27] abomination does 47 extra damage to you!
[20:37:27] You are hit for 47 damage.
[20:37:30] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:37:30] abomination does 37 extra damage to you!
[20:37:30] You are hit for 37 damage.
[20:37:33] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 18 damage!
[20:37:33] The abomination is enveloped by searing heat!
[20:37:33] You hit the abomination for 47 damage!
[20:37:33] abomination does 50 extra damage to you!
[20:37:33] You are hit for 50 damage.
[20:37:36] The bone spikes fade from abomination.
[20:37:37] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 16 damage!
*** Chat Log Closed: Fri Dec 19 20:37:38 2003
Using L18 Shield
*** Chat Log Opened: Fri Dec 19 20:48:27 2003
[20:48:34] Shiminnir casts a spell!
[20:48:34] The abomination casts a spell!
[20:48:34] Spikes of bone protrude from The abomination.
[20:48:34] The abomination hits your torso for 167 (-62) damage!
[20:48:35] You enter combat mode and target [the abomination]
[20:48:35] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 12 damage!
[20:48:35] abomination does 40 extra damage to you!
[20:48:35] You are hit for 40 damage.
[20:48:39] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:48:39] abomination does 45 extra damage to you!
[20:48:39] You are hit for 45 damage.
[20:48:42] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
[20:48:42] abomination does 32 extra damage to you!
[20:48:42] You are hit for 32 damage.
[20:48:46] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 18 damage!
[20:48:46] abomination does 44 extra damage to you!
[20:48:46] You are hit for 44 damage.
[20:48:50] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 18 damage!
[20:48:50] abomination does 45 extra damage to you!
[20:48:50] You are hit for 45 damage.
[20:48:53] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 12 damage!
[20:48:53] You critical hit for an additional 7 damage!
[20:48:53] abomination does 39 extra damage to you!
[20:48:53] You are hit for 39 damage.
[20:48:56] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:48:56] abomination does 33 extra damage to you!
[20:48:56] You are hit for 33 damage.
[20:49:00] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 13 damage!
[20:49:00] abomination does 42 extra damage to you!
[20:49:00] You are hit for 42 damage.
[20:49:03] The bone spikes fade from abomination.
[20:49:03] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 18 damage!
*** Chat Log Closed: Fri Dec 19 20:49:04 2003
Tried the L12 and lower shield and the damage dealt does drop off with those. Seems to me that Cho is right in saying that the L18+ shields are bugged because there's no difference in the damage dealt.
Using L44 shield
*** Chat Log Opened: Fri Dec 19 20:34:56 2003
[20:34:59] You enter combat mode and target [the abomination]
[20:34:59] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:34:59] abomination does 39 extra damage to you!
[20:34:59] You are hit for 39 damage.
[20:35:02] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 18 damage!
[20:35:02] You critical hit for an additional 2 damage!
[20:35:02] abomination does 44 extra damage to you!
[20:35:02] You are hit for 44 damage.
[20:35:06] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 14 damage!
[20:35:06] abomination does 55 extra damage to you!
[20:35:06] You are hit for 55 damage.
[20:35:10] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 14 damage!
[20:35:10] You critical hit for an additional 3 damage!
[20:35:10] abomination does 41 extra damage to you!
[20:35:10] You are hit for 41 damage.
[20:35:13] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 13 damage!
[20:35:13] abomination does 45 extra damage to you!
[20:35:13] You are hit for 45 damage.
[20:35:16] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:35:16] You critical hit for an additional 14 damage!
[20:35:16] abomination does 56 extra damage to you!
[20:35:16] You are hit for 56 damage.
[20:35:20] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:35:20] The abomination is enveloped by searing heat!
[20:35:20] You hit the abomination for 48 damage!
[20:35:20] abomination does 54 extra damage to you!
[20:35:20] You are hit for 54 damage.
[20:35:24] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
[20:35:24] You critical hit for an additional 2 damage!
[20:35:24] abomination does 39 extra damage to you!
[20:35:24] You are hit for 39 damage.
[20:35:24] The bone spikes fade from abomination.
[20:35:25] The abomination is enveloped by searing heat!
[20:35:25] You hit the abomination for 39 damage!
*** Chat Log Closed: Fri Dec 19 20:35:26 2003
Using L32 Shield
*** Chat Log Opened: Fri Dec 19 20:36:18 2003
[20:36:21] You target [the abomination]
[20:36:21] You examine the abomination. It is friendly.
[20:36:22] You enter combat mode and target [the abomination]
[20:36:22] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
[20:36:22] abomination does 58 extra damage to you!
[20:36:22] You are hit for 58 damage.
[20:36:25] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 13 damage!
[20:36:25] abomination does 57 extra damage to you!
[20:36:25] You are hit for 57 damage.
[20:36:29] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
[20:36:29] abomination does 52 extra damage to you!
[20:36:29] You are hit for 52 damage.
[20:36:32] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 11 damage!
[20:36:32] abomination does 40 extra damage to you!
[20:36:32] You are hit for 40 damage.
[20:36:36] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:36:36] abomination does 37 extra damage to you!
[20:36:36] You are hit for 37 damage.
[20:36:39] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 12 damage!
[20:36:39] abomination does 39 extra damage to you!
[20:36:39] You are hit for 39 damage.
[20:36:43] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
[20:36:43] abomination does 55 extra damage to you!
[20:36:43] You are hit for 55 damage.
[20:36:46] The bone spikes fade from abomination.
[20:36:47] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
*** Chat Log Closed: Fri Dec 19 20:36:48 2003
Using L24 Shield
*** Chat Log Opened: Fri Dec 19 20:37:10 2003
[20:37:13] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
[20:37:13] You critical hit for an additional 7 damage!
[20:37:13] abomination does 55 extra damage to you!
[20:37:13] You are hit for 55 damage.
[20:37:17] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 16 damage!
[20:37:17] abomination does 48 extra damage to you!
[20:37:17] You are hit for 48 damage.
[20:37:20] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 12 damage!
[20:37:20] abomination does 51 extra damage to you!
[20:37:20] You are hit for 51 damage.
[20:37:23] You miss!
[20:37:27] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 14 damage!
[20:37:27] abomination does 47 extra damage to you!
[20:37:27] You are hit for 47 damage.
[20:37:30] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:37:30] abomination does 37 extra damage to you!
[20:37:30] You are hit for 37 damage.
[20:37:33] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 18 damage!
[20:37:33] The abomination is enveloped by searing heat!
[20:37:33] You hit the abomination for 47 damage!
[20:37:33] abomination does 50 extra damage to you!
[20:37:33] You are hit for 50 damage.
[20:37:36] The bone spikes fade from abomination.
[20:37:37] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 16 damage!
*** Chat Log Closed: Fri Dec 19 20:37:38 2003
Using L18 Shield
*** Chat Log Opened: Fri Dec 19 20:48:27 2003
[20:48:34] Shiminnir casts a spell!
[20:48:34] The abomination casts a spell!
[20:48:34] Spikes of bone protrude from The abomination.
[20:48:34] The abomination hits your torso for 167 (-62) damage!
[20:48:35] You enter combat mode and target [the abomination]
[20:48:35] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 12 damage!
[20:48:35] abomination does 40 extra damage to you!
[20:48:35] You are hit for 40 damage.
[20:48:39] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:48:39] abomination does 45 extra damage to you!
[20:48:39] You are hit for 45 damage.
[20:48:42] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 17 damage!
[20:48:42] abomination does 32 extra damage to you!
[20:48:42] You are hit for 32 damage.
[20:48:46] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 18 damage!
[20:48:46] abomination does 44 extra damage to you!
[20:48:46] You are hit for 44 damage.
[20:48:50] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 18 damage!
[20:48:50] abomination does 45 extra damage to you!
[20:48:50] You are hit for 45 damage.
[20:48:53] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 12 damage!
[20:48:53] You critical hit for an additional 7 damage!
[20:48:53] abomination does 39 extra damage to you!
[20:48:53] You are hit for 39 damage.
[20:48:56] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 15 damage!
[20:48:56] abomination does 33 extra damage to you!
[20:48:56] You are hit for 33 damage.
[20:49:00] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 13 damage!
[20:49:00] abomination does 42 extra damage to you!
[20:49:00] You are hit for 42 damage.
[20:49:03] The bone spikes fade from abomination.
[20:49:03] You attack the abomination with your cudgel and hit for 18 damage!
*** Chat Log Closed: Fri Dec 19 20:49:04 2003
Tried the L12 and lower shield and the damage dealt does drop off with those. Seems to me that Cho is right in saying that the L18+ shields are bugged because there's no difference in the damage dealt.
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cHodAX
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Cybwyn your a star Saved me a headache and an ear bashingfrom G/F for 'playing that silly game all night again!'
Yep, looks as if we are right. Will test some more and then inform Mythic/Necro TL.
Saved me a headache and an ear bashingfrom G/F for 'playing that silly game all night again!' Yep, looks as if we are right. Will test some more and then inform Mythic/Necro TL.
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speshneeds
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posted this on E+E boards for you also
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cHodAX
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Muchos Gracias Senior
Whatever the hell that means
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bigchief
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The powertap will return same power aye, but will do low damage and be resisted rather alot.
The dd 'shout' is very power heavy for the damage, is around same damage as insta lifetap, without the health back and for more power (i think).
The pbae is also resisted alot and given you can cast it twice every 30secs thats rather annoying
The damage shield is incredibly slow. This may be because of the bug mentioned above though, but I went oop just casting shield/hot pulling a dia mob. (the hot works better in servant spec, in much the same way base heals work better for a rejuv cleric btw
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Cybwyn
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After 2 days servant specced I've respecced back to sight.
In its current form the damage shield isn't really worth having, the DD shout costs too much power, the PBAoE is a pain in the ass to use and I miss having a ranged nuke which can do decent damage (base lifetap with deathsight minor spec just doesn't cut it).
In its current form the damage shield isn't really worth having, the DD shout costs too much power, the PBAoE is a pain in the ass to use and I miss having a ranged nuke which can do decent damage (base lifetap with deathsight minor spec just doesn't cut it).
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cHodAX
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Yeah, Servant spec is dire right now. It is only useful for powerleveling at Tanglers if you have a buffbot. When/if they fix the damage shield it will be more viable but still lacking.
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speshneeds
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have you Rightnow'd this as a bug report? if not you should
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old.Morchaoron
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also the question is if this is a GOA translation bug or a mythic bug