Question about Hero spec

[Eleasias]

so you mean that they go for the main Tank first, smart bunch

An yes I have met them few times.

We go for whatever is closest in nuking range mostly, and no you havent cause mamba has played Grawen only recently and you said you havent played in a while

 

[Gibs]

so you mean that they go for the main Tank first, smart bunch

An yes I have met them few times.

Had to jump in and agree with Eleas on everything he has said having also myself played hero right through to 6 mill+ rps.
And i mean every single word he said in this thread is completely true and makes sense. And yes you will get slammed and assist nuked down if yourpushing onto them as 95% of the time theyll have kited your ass out of your healers range even if just by 1 yard thats all thats needed to put you face down in 5 secs.

- ex-Diabien

 

[Elrandhir]

We go for whatever is closest in nuking range mostly, and no you havent cause mamba has played Grawen only recently and you said you havent played in a while

I might not have played against all of them, but I remember some names, we probably lost also when I was with even though we have mostly won against groups when I was with.

I know one thing, I very seldom go down early in the fights, thats why I think that p2 is a waste of points.

But I cba continue an argument about this, because it's nothing to argue about, My belive is as I said that it's a waste of points.

Nice strategy between

 

[Eleasias]

I might not have played against all of them, but I remember some names, we probably lost also when I was with even though we have mostly won against groups when I was with.

I know one thing, I very seldom go down early in the fights, thats why I think that p2 is a waste of points.

But I cba continue an argument about this, because it's nothing to argue about, My belive is as I said that it's a waste of points.

Nice strategy between

Im anxiously waiting for CT people to come back and play cluster . Hope your summer break is over soon!

Gifv more groups

 

[Elrandhir]

Im anxiously waiting for CT people to come back and play cluster . Hope your summer break is over soon!

Gifv more groups

Problem with CT right now is that most of us havent got time, and we also lost a very good player to the horrible game WoW, and I don't play much either right now.

CT can't get a full gg atm, so if we are out now and again now it will be abit mixed.

but who knows maby people will come back to the guild again ;D

 

[Tallen]

Some really intersting and helpful comments, hopefully a few others are getting the same benefit I am out of this

If it's of any interest I have decided to try respeccing to 45 shield (from 42), staying 50 LW, rest parry, leftover in blade (prolly 6 for taunt and staying blades for access to Traitors/Malice/ML10 in a main-hand free template). I have a BG warden and can see the comparisons and understand that argument well which is the main reason why i'll not be going s/s (well, not quite yet anyway).

Many thanks for the constructive input :worthy:

 

[Omega]

If you are specialising in LW then I would advice going for at least 10 Blades, for the side snare style. Snare is a valuable tool in your arsenal.

In terms of specs, first question is really to ask your self what your play style will be and what your preferences are. You can’t go wrong with any spec really unless it just does not feel right to you. However, an all round good spec is 50 Spear/LW, 42Shield, 38 Parry, 10 Blades.

**edit** Think you just posted while I was drafting a reply. Good spec but 10 blades, imo, adds that extra bit of utility at the expense of 1 point in parry and that's worth it.

You will have a lot of fun, Hero's are a great class....Hell I've almost exclusively played one for 5 years straight.

 

[Gratscensi]

50lw, 50shield, 28parry, 6blades

det4-5, aom4(if warlord), purge2, rest in mopain/str or SB if high rr

switching between sunweapons/malice/heat LWs (if chanter in group)

BG for defensive play, 50 shield for the purpose of guarding a few hits before bg kicks in, warlord for offensive play, thus the aom4 + classbonus giving you -30% magicdmg

since the classboost and BL nerf i know an offensive warlord hero is a really nice partner to a bm in the 'normal' warden-2caster-2tank hib group.

 

[Novamir]

i'd take me over a warden in group any day.

whats the same between the two?
Battlemaster and Slam

what does hero have that warden doesnt?
bigger HPs. Fury (magic immune for 20sec). Rampage (5mins timer for 20sec group +35% debuff resists). Pbae Purge (a second purge for your bard). Moose. 2handed damage. Soldier's Barricade.

what does warden have that hero doesnt?
resists (not much help when you take into account CL resists and the new warden spec for shield). TWF (this is really the only reason for taking a Warden, and yes it is very nice). backup heals (not much help any more now warden is almost always slamming). maybe a warden can fill me in on the extra stuff coz i proly missed stuff. galid always goes on about some debuff or something

i am specced Det5, Purge3 and SB3 on hero. purge is up every fight for melee stun/stacking stat debuffs. rampage is up every fight. pbae group purge is 10mins timer. Barricade is 10mins, 30sec of 25% all damage reduction. because of Stoicism+Det5 im never CCed. tbh, for anyone to take a warden over me is, i think, madness. but there you go. Sheph might be worth it! (or maybe frs )


oh and as vinters was saying, a warlord hero specced for damage is now just as good as having another BM. Cowering Bellow seriously rocks for offensive hero on Spiritmasters and bonedancers (although the healing pets do still heal after a bit). Warguard is very nice. End usage reduction chant is useful. id like to try the warlord hero role again but with spear.

 

[Elrandhir]

50lw, 50shield, 28parry, 6blades

det4-5, aom4(if warlord), purge2, rest in mopain/str or SB if high rr

switching between sunweapons/malice/heat LWs (if chanter in group)

BG for defensive play, 50 shield for the purpose of guarding a few hits before bg kicks in, warlord for offensive play, thus the aom4 + classbonus giving you -30% magicdmg

since the classboost and BL nerf i know an offensive warlord hero is a really nice partner to a bm in the 'normal' warden-2caster-2tank hib group.

First of you want to have abilities for the group, so SB3 is one of the most important Abilities to get, not AoM, the hero has already got great defence against magic, so this is something to get later if so.

DET 4-5 and SB3 is the first things to get if you'r planning to play in a group.

 

[Novamir]

First of you want to have abilities for the group, so SB3 is one of the most important Abilities to get, not AoM, the hero has already got great defence against magic, so this is something to get later if so.

DET 4-5 and SB3 is the first things to get if you'r planning to play in a group.

i disagree. if you are a warlord hero then your responsibility is to do damage. therefore you need high Det/Purge and passive damage RAs. if you're in that slot you aren't there for defensive stuff, coz the blademaster who would be in ur spot sure as hell would be damage speccd

 

[Elrandhir]

i disagree. if you are a warlord hero then your responsibility is to do damage. therefore you need high Det/Purge and passive damage RAs. if you're in that slot you aren't there for defensive stuff, coz the blademaster who would be in ur spot sure as hell would be damage speccd

Well removeing 25% damage from everything in 30 seconds will let the group take punish like h*ll, so no Im afraid I disagree with you there, sure after you get SB3 you will go abilities that improves you'r damage, but SB3 is all to good to not have.

Well this is how I feel, sure it's good to do more damage, but as I said, it's just so much damage you remove from the group, and it's more or less always up also.

 

[Gibs]

doesnt matter anyway nobody will take heros when these fotm maulers come into the game!

 

[Elrandhir]

doesnt matter anyway nobody will take heros when these fotm maulers come into the game!

Had this hero for 4 years and been able to get groups pretty easy, I doubht anything will change that, and if the new classes are to good then they will probably be changed in awhile neways ;D