Queries i'd like answering.

[Invisibul]

Requiel / Zenythe / Erivoss - Just a couple of questions i'd like clearing up, and if i seem rude I assure you it's not intentional.

Q. Relic bugs on xml are most annoying, they've been bugged since patch day, why is it taking so long, what needs to be done? If you can tell me ofc.

Q. When will the xml be available for public use, the link for it keeps saying the xml will be up for use as soon as the new Roll of Honour is online, whats happening there?

Q. Low(ish) population on Prydwen and extremly low population on the french server Carnac, is there anything being done to try and boost the numbers on these servers?

Q. Yes we just got 1.71, but whats the plan now for next patches, 1.72 or straight to catacombs? Given the fact that there are now 4 translations to test and fix, are we going to have to wait even longer, I apreciate that translations take a while.

On a good note, for me it was a great response to fixing the major lag problems of late, and gratz to OT on fixing their problems, eventually.

Not sure how specific you can be with your answers, but any info would be great.

 

[Reno]

from last weeks friday news:

The next version that will be placed on the servers will therefore be 1.73, that is to say : Catacombs and this without having the intermediary 1.72 patch whose content will of course be included in the expansion

 

[Svartmetall]

I would like to know why European DAOC players have for so long now been denied the co-op and RP servers we should have.

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[IainC]

Requiel / Zenythe / Erivoss - Just a couple of questions i'd like clearing up, and if i seem rude I assure you it's not intentional.

Q. Relic bugs on xml are most annoying, they've been bugged since patch day, why is it taking so long, what needs to be done? If you can tell me ofc.

Q. When will the xml be available for public use, the link for it keeps saying the xml will be up for use as soon as the new Roll of Honour is online, whats happening there?

Q. Low(ish) population on Prydwen and extremly low population on the french server Carnac, is there anything being done to try and boost the numbers on these servers?

Q. Yes we just got 1.71, but whats the plan now for next patches, 1.72 or straight to catacombs? Given the fact that there are now 4 translations to test and fix, are we going to have to wait even longer, I apreciate that translations take a while.

On a good note, for me it was a great response to fixing the major lag problems of late, and gratz to OT on fixing their problems, eventually.

Not sure how specific you can be with your answers, but any info would be great.

1: I don't know. I'll ask but there's a separate team who work on stuff like the Chronicles.

2: Last time I asked I was told it would be just after the new year when the teams got back from holiday. I'll ask again.

3: Yes, we are making far more of an effort to attract new players to the game. This has already started and you will see more of this in the weeks to come. The only real answer to low population is to attract more players, not spread out the ones you have more thinly. It should be mentioned however that 'low population' in this case though is relative. No european server has a truly low population when compared with the smaller US servers and all have populations large enough to support viable RvR and large scale PvE. We are aware however that in some realms it is more difficult to do large scale things and we are keen not to see these problems grow to the extent where many encounters or organised events such as Relic Raids are no longer possible.

4: As the News says, straight to Catacombs. By this point there will be four clients in five languages to support. Translation isn't really that big an issue as separate teams work on each language at the same time. The part that takes the time is testing and then referring problems back to Mythic, waiting for a fix, testing the fix, referring the new problems back to Mythic etc...
Once the translation is done it only needs a very quick test in each language to check for proper wordings and to make sure that everything that should be translated is translated. It's the code itself - regardless of the language - where the bugs pop up and where the bulk of the testing lies. For example, the NF open beta was about 4 weeks long and was almost entirely in English with about 5 days each in French and German.

Obviously it takes longer to translate an expansion than it does a simple patch as the expansion will introduce a lot of new content - monster names, quests, back stories, NPC dialogues etc that all need to be translated but it shouldn't take us significantly longer to translate five languages than the three we are currently doing.

Finally, I can honestly say that no-one was happier than me to see the recent lag problems resolved finally.

 

[IainC]

I would like to know why European DAOC players have for so long now been denied the co-op and RP servers we should have.

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RP servers only work if there is a dedicated CSR presence monitoring for OOC behaviour and acting to stop it before it impacts on the RP atmosphere. Without them, the server becomes a RP server in name only and will eventually become just another server. Prydwen is seen by many as the most RP friendly server in Europe however the majority of playrs there would not describe themselves as roleplayers.

Co-op servers are a different ruleset that will require a different licence from Mythic to operate. Even if there were enough European players who wanted one and would play there to make it a viable population (and our polls over several years, available to all our customers from all languages suggest there aren't), Mythic would have to be willing to licence the ruleset to us. If the situation changes in the future then we'd be delighted to offer a Co-op server.

 

[DrunkSkunk]

I would like to know why European DAOC players have for so long now been denied the co-op and RP servers we should have.

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Stop QQ'ing about it... or move to american servers

 

[Dracus]

Lotsa answers

I'm curious Req, is there any chance to make the ppl who decide on this consider bringing .72 asap...1 of my biggest issues atm is that it takes a long time to xp artifacts...almost everything else are smaller concerns for me as I think they are for most ppl. And if I remember correct .72 decreases the xp needed for artis.

If its not possible to hurry .72 along and wait a bit with catacombs could the arti xp be made as a hotfix? or is this in the mythic book of "design decision"

/Dracus

 

[Mastade]

Nice to see GMs answer so fast and really explaning themselves

keep up the good work <3

 

[Alithiel]

]The next version that will be placed on the servers will therefore be 1.73, that is to say : Catacombs and this without having the intermediary 1.72 patch whose content will of course be included in the expansion

That sux... I want my new title!

 

[wittor]

I would like to know why European DAOC players have for so long now been denied the co-op and RP servers we should have.

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every post u make is about a damn co-op server .. why dont u just move to the US server if u want it so hard instead of asking it 100 ? ;p

 

[scorge]

That sux... I want my new title!

dont think Arse bandiit is a title in the next patch mate..... :wub:

 

[scorge]

Finally, I can honestly say that no-one was happier than me to see the recent lag problems resolved finally.

The lag hasn't gone its just taking a holiday

 

[Invisibul]

Thanks Requiel, that info helped alot

Though I didn't expect such a fast response, have a

 

[Influenza]

I'm curious Req, is there any chance to make the ppl who decide on this consider bringing .72 asap...1 of my biggest issues atm is that it takes a long time to xp artifacts...almost everything else are smaller concerns for me as I think they are for most ppl. And if I remember correct .72 decreases the xp needed for artis.

If its not possible to hurry .72 along and wait a bit with catacombs could the arti xp be made as a hotfix? or is this in the mythic book of "design decision"

/Dracus

You sure about this? i couldnt find anything about the amount of exp artifacts need being changed in the 1.72 or 1.73 patch notes.

 

[Belomar]

Well-articulated questions and nice replies, good thread. Only Svartmetall's usual rant about co-op servers tarnishes it, but hey, this is FH...

 

[Shanaia]

Yes someone needs to stop whining and get a us account and find out how childish he has been whining for something that isn't all that in the first place.

 

[old.Tohtori]

HEY. I managed to get a hold of Jeff at GOA helpdesk and he said he'd be more then willing to answer thee questions. Actually his exact words were "I couldn't give a rats a** about some whining bugger, but if it gets me off the phone for atleast a second, i'll be glad to do it. Now stop bothering my keepraid." So here's what he had to say:

Requiel / Zenythe / Erivoss - Just a couple of questions i'd like clearing up, and if i seem rude I assure you it's not intentional.

JEff: If i seem rude in my answers, i assure you it's intentional. If i'm not, then it's unintentional.

Q. Relic bugs on xml are most annoying, they've been bugged since patch day, why is it taking so long, what needs to be done? If you can tell me ofc.

Jeff: Bugs are meant to be annoying. Have you ever actually seen a bug ingame that you DIDN'T want to be fixed?

Q. When will the xml be available for public use, the link for it keeps saying the xml will be up for use as soon as the new Roll of Honour is online, whats happening there?

Jeff: I'll try to explain it in english. When roll of honour is online = xml public. Get it? If xml isn't public = roll of honour isn't online.

Q. Low(ish) population on Prydwen and extremly low population on the french server Carnac, is there anything being done to try and boost the numbers on these servers?

Jeff: I'm currently working on a program that will help these numbers drasticly. Mainly it's just a "fake the numbers" program, but it makes the public feel nice and fuzzy....ok ok, it's to keep them from whining about it at me.

Q. Yes we just got 1.71, but whats the plan now for next patches, 1.72 or straight to catacombs? Given the fact that there are now 4 translations to test and fix, are we going to have to wait even longer, I apreciate that translations take a while.

Jeff: The patches will go on as planned. These plans are being discussed with the commite and are evaluated by our legal department to avoid any possible law problems, especially regarding the date and problem solving issues that might arise when applied into the plan.IF you nuderstood any of this, we need you in our legal department.

On a good note, for me it was a great response to fixing the major lag problems of late, and gratz to OT on fixing their problems, eventually.

Jeff: ....no thanks to helpdesk...? I'm offended. Afterall if i wasn't there night and day bothering the people about my char lagging, you'd still be halfway to galplen with a trolls butt going back and forth in your kobbies face.

Not sure how specific you can be with your answers, but any info would be great.

Jeff: Quite welcome. Now back to the phones. Sigh. I wonder if i could rout some customersto the "repost a terrorist" hotline...

 

[Invisibul]

yeah, cos taking the piss is really funny.

there's no need for that, just makes you look like thugs.

 

[Shanaia]

Well seeing as most of Seel's latest 'pisstakes' were posted after a GM or GOA solved the problems he writes about I really do think he's trying to be funny ... not trying to take the piss...

Kinda makes me laugh but I think Seel needs a new subject this horse is kinda dieing

 

[Jayce]

yeah, cos taking the piss is really funny.

there's no need for that, just makes you look like thugs.

If you'd read any of his otehr Jeff from GOA Helpdesk posts you would see the humour in it. Its not malicious just a bit of fun.

Nice Seel

 

[old.Tohtori]

As said, not taking a piss, just making teh funny after it was answered. No offence.

On an off-topic note to Shanaia:

Jeff is retiring/retired and new material is coming

 

[Svartmetall]

Yes someone needs to stop whining and get a us account and find out how childish he has been whining for something that isn't all that in the first place.

And someone needs to realise that asking why we in Europe have not been given the choice US players get is in fact a perfectly reasonable question. Particularly wehen it's in a thread titled "Questions I'd like answering". And that someone also needs to realise that asking a question is not "whining". And that someone also needs to realise that their own opinion of a co-op server is not everyone else's.

every post u make is about a damn co-op server

No, it's not.

why dont u just move to the US server

Why should I have to?

Svartmetall's usual rant

Asking in a perfectly reasonable fashion why we haven't been given the full choice of DAOC options is Europe is not a "rant".

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[Svartmetall]

RP servers only work if there is a dedicated CSR presence monitoring for OOC behaviour and acting to stop it before it impacts on the RP atmosphere. Without them, the server becomes a RP server in name only and will eventually become just another server. Prydwen is seen by many as the most RP friendly server in Europe however the majority of playrs there would not describe themselves as roleplayers.

I remember people on Excal describing Prydwen as "the roleplay server" over two years ago. Hmm. OK, point taken about the constant in-game GM presence needed to keep a RP server RP. I'm not desperate for an RP server myself, just wondering why we haven't had an official one

Co-op servers are a different ruleset that will require a different licence from Mythic to operate. Even if there were enough European players who wanted one and would play there to make it a viable population (and our polls over several years, available to all our customers from all languages suggest there aren't), Mythic would have to be willing to licence the ruleset to us. If the situation changes in the future then we'd be delighted to offer a Co-op server.

Interesting. Did you have to buy a whole new licence from Mythic to open Camlann, then? That would explain why Camlann opened after the other servers did.
As for the "enough players" bit, didn't that 36-page "we want a co-op server" petition on the French forums give a hint how many players would like it? I have lost track of how many times actual players I talk to in-game (as in, not just the FH population) have said they'd love a co-op server. Most of the people I know who have opened a US account have primarily done it because they want to play on Gaheris. And they would much rather have not had to buy a whole new copy of the game and start a whole new account to play co-op, especially when the US servers' prime-time does not fit in with the working hours of 99% of UK/Euro players.

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[Dorin]

Why should I have to?

Couse we wont get a co-op server EVER? (got it? there wont be any cooperative server in Europe! ) Hell we dont even have a 3rd English server where english speaking folk could try the 3rd realm... again you could ask, why? The answer is so simple, its aint worth the effort business wise, the english playerbase doesnt have the numbers to make goa act (guess what, germans got a lil bit more servers 2, i bet you understand why :E)

Asking it in each thread which involves goa in one way or another is just dull, dont you think so? If i would die to play on a coop server, like you seem to me i would have bought US version AGES ago, case solved. You on the other hand spam the forums instead . Doesnt matter you do it in a good manner which is sort of rare on freddies, but even well written speech is annoying if you read it the 156x time already :O

 

[Danamyr]

Interesting. Did you have to buy a whole new licence from Mythic to open Camlann, then? That would explain why Camlann opened after the other servers did.
As for the "enough players" bit, didn't that 36-page "we want a co-op server" petition on the French forums give a hint how many players would like it? I have lost track of how many times actual players I talk to in-game (as in, not just the FH population) have said they'd love a co-op server. Most of the people I know who have opened a US account have primarily done it because they want to play on Gaheris. And they would much rather have not had to buy a whole new copy of the game and start a whole new account to play co-op, especially when the US servers' prime-time does not fit in with the working hours of 99% of UK/Euro players.

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Isn't Camlann a co-op server? If not, then what exactly is a co-op server in the context of DAoC? Indulge me here please, just trying to get my head around it...

 

[Shanaia]

On an off-topic note to Shanaia:

Jeff is retiring/retired and new material is coming

\o/

And someone needs to realise that asking why we in Europe have not been given the choice US players get is in fact a perfectly reasonable question. Particularly wehen it's in a thread titled "Questions I'd like answering". And that someone also needs to realise that asking a question is not "whining". And that someone also needs to realise that their own opinion of a co-op server is not everyone else's.

It might have been a reasonable question the first 5 times yes ... but it's far beyond a question now and it's turned into an endless whine to which you have been answered now several times ...

As for the "enough players" bit, didn't that 36-page "we want a co-op server" petition on the French forums give a hint how many players would like it? I have lost track of how many times actual players I talk to in-game (as in, not just the FH population) have said they'd love a co-op server. Most of the people I know who have opened a US account have primarily done it because they want to play on Gaheris. And they would much rather have not had to buy a whole new copy of the game and start a whole new account to play co-op, especially when the US servers' prime-time does not fit in with the working hours of 99% of UK/Euro players.

Just like about 50% of the population said they'd leave daoc when SWG came ... Just like the 80% of the population said they left for US servers a week ago ... Just like the 100% of the population that said they'd leave for WoW... players talk bullshit a lot ... the majority of people that took the 12 seconds to post in a thread "Sure I'd play there" would not take the time it needs to level characters in a different ruleset

Besides we the players can say what we want ... you think GOA didn't investigate this ... and if that investigation would have proven that offering a coop server would have made them more money that they would have ignored that ... it's a bloody company that wants to make money just as much as anybody... it's not some evil group of halfdead vampire-wolves out to ruin your gaming pleasure on every occasion they can find.

 

[Thugs]

Nice questions and answers?

Dunno about all this. Seems to me Mythic are just buggering about with a very faulty system. The main problems with this game are always being ignored.

Buffbots - get rid of the sodding things!
Game play and balance - eh you think anyone at Mythic knows wot this is?
Make the game enjoyable and stop making the sole reason for development being 'how to extract more money from people'.

Failure to sort the above problems out will sure as hell be the nail or nails in the final DAOC coffin.

You know it makes sense!

 

[Shanaia]

So glad I have Thugs on ignore list... cause I'm pretty sure nothing he just said made much sense

 

[chretien]

Isn't Camlann a co-op server? If not, then what exactly is a co-op server in the context of DAoC? Indulge me here please, just trying to get my head around it...

A co-op server is one with no PvP at all other than duelling. All realms can travel between all the other realms and group with each other just like they can on Camlann however you can't attack other players. Keeps in the frontiers are held by mobs and you earn RPs by defeating them.

 

[Naffets]

Dunno about all this. Seems to me Mythic are just buggering about with a very faulty system. The main problems with this game are always being ignored.

Buffbots - get rid of the sodding things!
Game play and balance - eh you think anyone at Mythic knows wot this is?
Make the game enjoyable and stop making the sole reason for development being 'how to extract more money from people'.

Failure to sort the above problems out will sure as hell be the nail or nails in the final DAOC coffin.

You know it makes sense!

I think mythic are trying their best to try and sort things out, however are going about it the wrong way

Catacombs makes 1-50 a shitload easier for casual players, and soloers. Hopefully the next expansion / major patch will improve the pvp aspect, (instanced rvr, clustered servers and such)

After all not many people here dislike the game that much, otherwise they wouldn't be here. I believe, or hope, mythic do what they said they are going to as mentioned in "the state of the game"

If they don't improve things substantially then they will loose out hugely. The game still lacks graphically, but after all it is 3 years+ old now, the engine is aging badly, look at the textures in the classic zones and even in the si zones, then compare it to those in nf/toa/catacombs. There is a huge difference. Anyway im ranting on here, essentially give mythic a chance to fix things or just leave, no use whining about it over and over again on the forums.

edit : Buffbots - one person started this then everyone else had to do the same (or felt they had to) to compete. Think about Vampiirs though, they dont need buffs yet can beat buffed chars, and not just one, but 2-3 at a time. So mythic is working on addressing the buffbot situation. If they make a retroactive (dont know if thats the right word) change and make all chars so they gain stats as they level, then this will rule out the need for buffs all together, and give seer classes some other utility (mezzes, stuns, ae stuns, heals, heals over times, power regen, end regen etc.)