PunkBuster / Wireplay menu lag misconception

[old.Shrubbery]

Seen a few posts here suggesting that PunkBuster causes the menu-lag phenomenon, or whatever you want to call it, i.e. where you can't buy weapons, say messages take 30 seconds to appear, etc.

I don't think there is any truth in that, just to clarify:

Wireplay only have PB installed on their clan servers, not the public ones.

The public ones used to, and perhaps still do, have some sort of other anti-cheat measure installed before PB came along. This was a server-side only anti-cheat measure, not like PB which requires you to run a client yourself. A lot of people suggested that the menu-lag stuff was down to this other anti-cheat thingy, which may or may not be true. Certainly, WP have had a lot of problems with menu lag on their public servers, which are NOT Punkuster servers.

I have also encountered menu lag on other non-PB servers, Demon being the most recent case. Again, not a PB server.

 

[Embattle]

Still not keen on the idea of having PB on BW servers.

 

[Perplex]

me too emb. If they start putting PB on i'll move to a diff gaming provider. Not because I cheat, but because I don't like having things imposed on me.

 

[old.Xer]

fight the machine perplex!!!!!!!

 

[old.Virus]

I think PB is on the WP public servers now becuase the HUD lag is f00king over the top.


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[Perplex]

Moderators. is there some kind of "ignore this lamer" type functionality in vB?

If not, can you please shoot virus in the head point blank with any large calibre handgun? thanks

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

No this is a public forum, not quake2.uk

 

[Perplex]

You saying that his sig doesn't irritate the nads off you?

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

I ain't botherd either way, could be a little smaller though.

 

[old.Jimmy]

hmmm

sind kinda loks good, if a tiny bit bigheaded

 

[Ch3tan]

Ok, i know i have been one of the peeps connecting PB to server timing. However I have limited proof, I have only ever experienced this server lag phonemon 3 times. Twice on wireplay servers after i believed they installed PB (server side), i used the client side PB in both cases and CS was unplayable for 5-10 mins at the start of a round. The third time was on the blueyonder cs server (number 4?), anyway it was a PB required server, and so i assume they must have had the server side version.

So maybe its not PB being installed on a server which causes this problem, but as a modem user using the PB client CS is unplayable. I have also spoken to friends who have experienced this. My conclusion? the client side version of PB has problems. I am not against the idea of anti-cheat devices but I think extensive testing is needed (plus proof they actually stop the lrage variety of cheats/hacks out there) before barrysworld should even consider using such a program.

Shruberry.... You say Wireplay already had a anti-cheat program of some type running? Well can u prove this? I never had a problem with wireplay servers before punkbuster, just did not like them much. So i can only point this menu lag problem at punkbuster.

 

[Embattle]

Originally posted by Perplex
You saying that his sig doesn't irritate the nads off you?

It is a little big