Help Ps3 / dlna / nas

[old.user4556]

Right.

Fuck Sake.

I keep reading conflicting information on the web about this, so any help appreciated. My requirements are:

- a big NAS drive (500 GB will do it) to dump all my music onto.
- it must be network attached that I can plug into my router, which is also the ADSL modem
- it must be able to be accessed by the PS3 and my own PC. The PS3 is wireless to my wireless ADSL router / modem, the PC is wired.

Now, I'm under the impression that the NAS has to also be DLNA certified for the PS3 to pick it up as a media centre, so it looks like I need something like this:

Buffalo LinkStation Live 500GB Shared Network Storage: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics & Photo

However, I read nasty reviews of failures and shit software on that said device. I also read some info that it doesn't really need to be DLNA?! HELP.

Can somone recommend me something that will fucking work that isn't shit and is reliable?

 

[dysfunction]

Western Digital WD TV HD media player

 

[soze]

I have one of these D-Link 2-Bay Network Storage Enclosure it runs Twonky and is very good. Works with my PS3 without any problems. I would say look for one with Twonky as i know that works.

 

[old.user4556]

Western Digital WD TV HD media player

Thanks, but that looks turd?

 

[Moriath]

icybox i have one with 2 1TB drive in mirrored worked flawlessly for like 6 months so far .. but go with seagate drive been some incompatability with samsung

http://www.google.co.uk/products/ca..._catalog_result&ct=result&resnum=5#ps-sellers

a link if it helps

 

[old.user4556]

I have one of these D-Link 2-Bay Network Storage Enclosure it runs Twonky and is very good. Works with my PS3 without any problems. I would say look for one with Twonky as i know that works.

So Twonky is installed on the NAS drive ? How does it work exactly? It looks like a PC based program, so i'm confused there.

 

[old.user4556]

icybox i have one with 2 1TB drive in mirrored worked flawlessly for like 6 months so far .. but go with seagate drive been some incompatability with samsung

RaidSonic ICY BOX IB-NAS4220-B NAS server

a link if it helps

Now that looks the fucking business, I like the RAID idea and the DLNA so the PS3 shouldn't moan about it.

 

[soze]

So Twonky is installed on the NAS drive ? How does it work exactly? It looks like a PC based program, so i'm confused there.

There is a installer for the nas box. The nas runs linux in the background and that is what runs Twonky. Can find more info here including running Torrents start - DNS323Wiki the one weakness i have found is you cant set up wake on lan. Im running 2 1tb drives in raid on it.

 

[Trem]

I have a Buffalo LS and a PS3 and it all works perfectly, none of this TVersity or twonky bullshit, the PS3 just finds the Buffalo and job is done.

I hate WD, I hate them so much, get a Buffalo Big Glar and your life will be complete (apart from having me as a brother in law).

 

[soze]

Can you set different shares? One of the reasons i went for twonky was being able to pick my tv and film folders as root folders rather than going though Disk Folder then Tv Films ect.

 

[Trem]

I haven't looked into that at all Soze, I go to PS3>Video>Folders>Divx (etc), that is because thats the way I have always done it and its the way I like to do it, sorry I wasn't any help but I can't say a bad thing about any......ANY Buffalo thing I have ever bought.

 

[Moriath]

icybox has twonky installed as a trial but all you ahve to do is restart it every 30 days to avoid having to spend any readys

Loved mine so far

 

[Trem]

But Twonky has massive AIDS


Whatever anyone says I will defend Buffalo to the end, cheap, good quality and does what it says on the tin. Buffalo ftw!

 

[Moriath]

well yeah with all these you can just do a file search .. but twonky actuall streams rather than you pulling hte packets across ..

up to you tho ...

I heard buffalo stampeed .. would rather avoid that .. at least AIDS is treatable now

 

[WPKenny]

I've just got an ancient PC in a cupboard running PS3 Media Server and it's great. It's only an old P4 but it runs 720p stuff just fine and I can put as many HDD's in it as I want.

 

[dysfunction]

Thanks, but that looks turd?

maybe so but it does a very good job at playing media...

Western Digital WD TV HD Media Player Review - Multimedia Reviews - TrustedReviews

But it doesn't fit your requires as set out in your first post so yes perhaps its turd in that way

 

[Trem]

maybe so but it does a very good job at playing media...

Yeah until it explodes or dies like all WD stuff does

 

[ramathorn]

the WD HD TV boxes are awesome, I have 2 x 500 GB USB drives hooked into mine, one full of Blue-Rays the other just DIVX and it plays them all with no complaints (although some of the 1080P stuff can jump at times). Sadly lacking any sort of network connectivity which would have been awesome.

I have a crappy PC and a raid card with 4 x 1 TB drives in RAID 5, using FreeNAS: The Free NAS Server - Home running from a 1GB flash drive. If you can get your hands on a crappy PC I really recomend it, for services and scalability it is a great solution.

 

[soze]

There is a new WD Box out soon with Network Connection

And the reason i use Twonky is my nas i had to browse Hard disk\Media\Films or \tv\show but Twonky lets me just have TV and Films at the top level.

 

[old.user4556]

icybox has twonky installed as a trial but all you ahve to do is restart it every 30 days to avoid having to spend any readys

Loved mine so far

Ok, this looks the business - I like the fan cooled case, print server and general awesome spec - I can also add the drives of my choice and even a RAID setup incase one of them dies. I did notice the UPNP gubbins is only through Twonky, but that doesn't matter too much because that also looks very good.

Buy Icy Box IB-NAS4220-B Hard Drive Enclosure IB-NAS4220-B from CCL - Online Retailer of the Year 2008, 2007 & 2006 for laptops, desktops and computer hardware

Think i'll go for this.

Best HDD for it? Running a Samsung spinpoint F1 in my main PC, seems rapid and reliable.

 

[ramathorn]

Best HDD for it? Running a Samsung spinpoint F1 in my main PC, seems rapid and reliable.

Yeah the spinpoints I have are all generally awesome, I'd take them over most

 

[Trem]

Ok, this looks the business - I like the fan cooled case, print server and general awesome spec - I can also add the drives of my choice and even a RAID setup incase one of them dies. I did notice the UPNP gubbins is only through Twonky, but that doesn't matter too much because that also looks very good.

But the Buffalo NAS allows print server, addition of extra drives and is recognised by DLNA things........

 

[soze]

But the Buffalo NAS allows print server, addition of extra drives and is recognised by DLNA things........

Yeah Well my D Link has a Print server and a USB Port to add External Disks to you NAS!! It also runs Twonky which everyone knows is the mans way to stream media!

Best HDD for it? Running a Samsung spinpoint F1 in my main PC, seems rapid and reliable.

I have 2 F2 Spinpoints in mine now they are much quieter and cooler than the seagates i replaced

 

[Bodhi]

There are two ways of doing this that I can see

1) Get an old PC, stick a RAID card, some storage, XP and PS3 Media Server on, and all your files will be streamed, transcoded, remuxed and served up on your Puss 3. The most flexible way of doing things by far, but do you want a PC running 24/7 in a corner of your flat?

2) Get a Netgear ReadyNAS/Qnap box. Most of the other suggestions so far are fairly cheap and nasty as far as NAS boxes go. the QNAP boxes are fetature rich and the ReadyNAS ones are good quality hardware, both will more than adequately serve your PS3 with goodness. However inevitably with these boxes you end up using Twonky, which smells of bad AIDS.

 

[Embattle]

Personally I use a Synology DS207 for my files which is in the same class of NAS as the ones Bodhi mentions, but perhaps a little bit above what you are willing to spend. As for the HDs you actually intend to use I would use some WD green drives, they tend to be rather bulletproof and are low power drives to boot.

 

[old.user4556]

There are two ways of doing this that I can see

1) Get an old PC, stick a RAID card, some storage, XP and PS3 Media Server on, and all your files will be streamed, transcoded, remuxed and served up on your Puss 3. The most flexible way of doing things by far, but do you want a PC running 24/7 in a corner of your flat?

I think this is the direction i'm forced to go down.

One thing about my media setup, is that I want CD quality audio, and by that I mean the proper full CD quality instead of compressed. This leaves me WMA lossless, FLAC or plain old WAV rips. Sadly, WAV doesn't support tagging although all my CDs are ripped to WAV. I did plan on re-ripping it all to WMA lossless to have a) proper CD quality bit-rate and b) tagged audio files.

I find out tonight that the fucking PS3 doesn't support WMA lossless, even thought it supports WMA (just not the all important lossless part). That is a real fucking pain in the pisser, I can't tell you how frustrating it was to find that out. After a lot of digging on the web, lack of lossless support (FLAC and WMA lossless) is pissing a large amount of people off.

At risk of saying "the PS3 has aids", it might be the best route to be running a media PC that I can fully configure to do what I need it to do. I really don't want a PC running 24/7, but I don't see much choice.

I had hopes that Twonky on that Icy Box would take care of some conversion of the WMA lossless to stream to PS3, but it looks like it won't.

TVersity seems to do the trick in this respect, but I understand that'll need to run from a PC 24/7? Additionally, I might lose the tag functionality if TVersity does some sort of WMA -> WAV/PCM conversion thingy, but at least my audio library is in the format I want it to be until fucking Sony get their act together and sort out this LOSSLESS FUCK ABOUT.

GRRR.

Edit: reading up on this foobar2000 thing - http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=69664

 

[Moriath]

samsungs have been known to cause some compatability issues in the icybox .. i would go for seagates is what i have and no problems at all

 

[old.user4556]

TVersity works an absolute treat - got it streaming my WMA lossless from my main PC to the PS3 with the tags also intact . Presumably it's transcoding it to PCM.

Superb.

 

[Moriath]

its hard to use loss less tech on audio :/ the studios dont want you to be able to do it so theres not much around that does it unless you go full pc :/

I guess you could go headless if windows lets you do that .. i know unix will .. just a box and nothing else

Perhaps your better off with a unix box rather than a windows one ?

 

[Moriath]

TVersity works an absolute treat - got it streaming my WMA lossless from my main PC to the PS3 with the tags also intact . Presumably it's transcoding it to PCM.

Superb.

i used tversity before on my main pc but wieghed up the cost of a full pc running 24/7 over a little box and went with that over loss less.

i dont know if tversity does a NAS client might be worth looking into