Prostitution

[~YuckFou~]

Whats the law on this?

I was in London yesterday, parked at the Hilton in Mayfair. Walked down a Mews road (the type with cobbles, very nice) to get to my customer. Anyway I notice a front door open and glance in out of curiousity as I walked past. Just inside are two more doors with handwritten signs sellotaped on them.

Tracy, young willing blonde.
Sarah, slim brunette.
and other stuff to tempt.

Now this is a very expensive place to buy property and there are some nice houses on this road. If I lived there I would go nuts if a knocking shop set up next to me.
Aren't there laws against this kind of thing, just curious.

 

[nath]

There are, but evidently there are loopholes/ways to avoid the law.

I wish it was a bit more harsh, about 2/3 times now I've had some dog ugly aids infested crackwhore ask me if I "fancied some business" each time my response of no was greeted with "why not?" *shudders*. The perils of working up the road from Kings Cross I guess

 

[doh_boy]

iirc the law prohibits 'offering sex in return for money' which (As close as it goes) the sign doesn't do. It could be argued that the girls like to massage (or something).

There was an obvious brothel near me and most weekends there was a police car parked outside. That was before it was burned down

There's another one, I think, further down the road now. I figure a 'men-only massage parlour' is a bit dodgy. that and the fact.

A lot of police a reluctant to close brothels due to the fact that the girls get looked after (iirc most brothels are run by women) and they're all in one place. If the girls are on the street they tend to move around to prevent being caught (as in they 'walk' different places week-by-week). They prefer to catch the 'customers' and scare them so they don't do it again.

 

[doh_boy]

gah

 

[xane]

Originally posted by doh_boy
iirc the law prohibits 'offering sex in return for money' which (As close as it goes) the sign doesn't do. It could be argued that the girls like to massage (or something).

I don't think this is correct.

Prostitution is not illegal, however pimping is, whilst it is perfectly legal to demand money or favours for sex, making it your main business is definitely not within the law.

Kerbcrawling, soliciting, etc is also illegal, but there is absolutely nothing that prevents a private arrangement involving compensation of whatever nature between two consenting adults.

Edit: not gonna post anything as promised, some parts of the website are inappropriate for the board.

 

[old.I_Am_Glen]

Originally posted by ~YuckFou~
If I lived there I would go nuts if a knocking shop set up next to me.

were they high clas tho ? ~ high clas aids for all1

 

[doh_boy]

aye I think the operative word is 'offering' you cannot say 'I will have sex with you for a tenner' or anything of the ilk and also you cannot say ' If I pay you a tenner will you have sex with me (a la robert redford)'.

This is why you the prostitutes saying 'Fancy some buisness?' because technically they aren't offering you sex for money. Also I remember seing a programme about police catching both and they had to get the prostitute to offer sex for money which was pretty hard (money generally had to be exchanged and the officer had to drive 'somewhere quiet') also the police had to get the kerb-crawler to ask for sex for money before they could arrest them.

Whats not illegal(i think) is to have sex with a person you have paid to carry out a service.

So this way you can pay a woman for a massage and 'pay her a tip' after which she is so grateful that you get sex.

 

[xane]

Originally posted by doh_boy
aye I think the operative word is 'offering' you cannot say 'I will have sex with you for a tenner' or anything of the ilk and also you cannot say ' If I pay you a tenner will you have sex with me (a la robert redford)'.

Nope, this is perfectly legal.

Soliciting for sex in a public place, a.k.a. kerbcrawling, is illegal, because it is done in public. Negotiating for sex in privately owned property is not a problem. Negotating at the bar before you pop back is debateable, but if it can be proved to be a private discussion then it is okay.

Prostitution is legal, pimping is not.

 

[Durzel]

Originally posted by ~YuckFou~
Now this is a very expensive place to buy property and there are some nice houses on this road. If I lived there I would go nuts if a knocking shop set up next to me.
Aren't there laws against this kind of thing, just curious.

They're not hurting you are they?

What business is it of yours what they do with their lives/bodies?

 

[Summo]

Where's this promised website, Camaxane?

 

[~YuckFou~]

Re: Re: Prostitution

Originally posted by Durzel
They're not hurting you are they?

What business is it of yours what they do with their lives/bodies?

None, I don't live there.
I am curious, sue me.

 

[Durzel]

Sorry, I was a bit offensive!

I'm basically "fine" with prostitution, and even "pro" registered brothels/massage parlours. At least the girls are safe(r) there. As long as it doesn't hurt me (that costs extra), I couldn't give a damn.

That said, I haven't and wouldn't consider visiting one, but each to their own.

 

[dysfunction]

Originally posted by xane
Nope, this is perfectly legal.

Soliciting for sex in a public place, a.k.a. kerbcrawling, is illegal, because it is done in public. Negotiating for sex in privately owned property is not a problem. Negotating at the bar before you pop back is debateable, but if it can be proved to be a private discussion then it is okay.

Prostitution is legal, pimping is not.

I always thought it was a case that you pay for the persons time and not for the sex....which makes the "prostitution" legal

 

[Clowneh!]

i aint seen a prozzie on the streets before, but im wondering... are there such things as fit prostitutes like in the movies?

 

[nath]

I hear they're fit as fuck in Prague.

They're all ugly as sin in kings cross.

 

[dysfunction]

There are also some very fit ones in the red light district in Amsterdam.

 

[bodhi]

Going to a prostitute is the kind of thing Exor would do. Nuff said really :/

 

[Deadmanwalking]

And then the bitterness and pettiness stopped =/

 

[nath]

Originally posted by dysfunction
There are also some very fit ones in the red light district in Amsterdam.

And some that look like jo brand :|

 

[old.Fweddy]

Nothing wrong with prostitution. Can earn a lot of money that way.





At least, thats what I've heard .

 

[Durzel]

Originally posted by bodhi
Going to a prostitute is the kind of thing Exor would do. Nuff said really :/

Obsessed much?

A completely out of the blue comment like that only means one thing, you obviously feel bitter that exor said something to/about you in another post that you were completely unable to rebut.

I've got nothing against you personally bodhi, but the way you just wade in with blanket statements about everything you clearly have zero knowledge about is nothing short of staggering. I'd love to see what kind of reception you'd get airing your "educated" views on Elise reliability and its suitability as an everyday car on a Lotus forum. Surely you have empirical evidence to back this up, or did you chance upon a report somewhere on the Web from one person that mentioned some random fault? I suspect the latter, as with most of your typical "evidence" its either in your head - or based on a minute fraction of the demographic.

That's just the tip of the iceberg really though isn't it. Next up we have the assertion that because Evo magazine says the R32 is "the mustard" - it is absolutely without fault...

Well what do we have here? The Times Online says "throw in a few corners and it all goes wrong. On a track, the triangular-torso’d Ford and the narrow-hipped Honda run rings round the muscular but ageing Golf" and "It’s not that the Golf is slow. It isn’t. But you don’t feel connected. It’s soft and wallowy where the Ford and Honda are sharp and precise. We can’t ignore the price either. At more than £22,000, the Volkswagen is at least 10% more expensive than any of its rivals". Oh dear. Also, Top Gear chip in by saying its " it's more of a cruiser than a B-road bruiser, and lacks the spirit of the original". Close, but no cigar.

The R32 isn't a bad car of course, but if anyone took what you said about it (and a lot of things) as being gospel.. well, they'd soon find themselves a victim of overhyping.

The bottom line is - anything you own, or think you have a shred of knowledge about, you just wade right in with blanket statements saying that they're the best thing since sliced bread.

Bit sad really.

 

[Deadmanwalking]

Your a brave brave man durzel

*salutes*

 

[bodhi]

Originally posted by Durzel
Obsessed much?

A completely out of the blue comment like that only means one thing, you obviously feel bitter that exor said something to/about you in another post that you were completely unable to rebut.

I've got nothing against you personally bodhi, but the way you just wade in with blanket statements about everything you clearly have zero knowledge about is nothing short of staggering. I'd love to see what kind of reception you'd get airing your "educated" views on Elise reliability and its suitability as an everyday car on a Lotus forum. Surely you have empirical evidence to back this up, or did you chance upon a report somewhere on the Web from one person that mentioned some random fault? I suspect the latter, as with most of your typical "evidence" its either in your head - or based on a minute fraction of the demographic.

Not really. My only frame of reference on the subject of prostituion is that exor went to one in Prague. Otherwise, I don't tend to talk to anyone about the subject or know anyone who's been to one. Kinda one of my rules - prostitutes are for people who can't get laid. It's quite simple.

Before I go to a Lotus owner's forum and tell them that their cars were built by monkeys do you fancy going to a Golf owner's forum and telling them the R32 is overweight, wallowy and overpriced. As for my evidence, I'll just use the 4 I've seen stranded on the hard shoulder and the two people I know of who have had serious problems with them. I'm sorry I don't think any of the owners publish a website about what happened. Apparently it's a fairly common occurence.

That's just the tip of the iceberg really though isn't it. Next up we have the assertion that because Evo magazine says the R32 is "the mustard" - it is absolutely without fault...

Well what do we have here? The Times Online says "throw in a few corners and it all goes wrong. On a track, the triangular-torso’d Ford and the narrow-hipped Honda run rings round the muscular but ageing Golf" and "It’s not that the Golf is slow. It isn’t. But you don’t feel connected. It’s soft and wallowy where the Ford and Honda are sharp and precise. We can’t ignore the price either. At more than £22,000, the Volkswagen is at least 10% more expensive than any of its rivals". Oh dear. Also, Top Gear chip in by saying its " it's more of a cruiser than a B-road bruiser, and lacks the spirit of the original". Close, but no cigar.

The R32 isn't a bad car of course, but if anyone took what you said about it (and a lot of things) as being gospel.. well, they'd soon find themselves a victim of overhyping.

The bottom line is - anything you own, or think you have a shred of knowledge about, you just wade right in with blanket statements saying that they're the best thing since sliced bread.

Well evo weren't alone in claiming it to be a Focus RS beater. Top Gear (as in, the TV programme), proclaimed it a far far better car, due to the fact that you can use all of the performance all of the time. But then I suppose turque-steering into a hedge is the new idea of performance thrills. But then I'm sure the two most respected authorities on fast cars are, in fact, talking shite, and the thrashy, stodgy and downright ugly Civic Type-R and just plain flawed Focus RS are by far an away the better cars.

But this is what I love about the self-proclaimed #q2.uk intelligentsia. They are ludicrously easy to wind up. Never mind. They'll catch on someday.

 

[Deadmanwalking]

BOYRACERS

 

[Durzel]

Originally posted by bodhi
Before I go to a Lotus owner's forum and tell them that their cars were built by monkeys do you fancy going to a Golf owner's forum and telling them the R32 is overweight, wallowy and overpriced.

I never said they were - The Times did. Compare that with your (i.e. neither authoritative or empirical) blanket statement about Elises.

As for my evidence, I'll just use the 4 I've seen stranded on the hard shoulder and the two people I know of who have had serious problems with them. I'm sorry I don't think any of the owners publish a website about what happened. Apparently it's a fairly common occurence.

I've seen at least two Ferraris broken down before, does that mean to say they're unreliable? Do you honestly think a manufacturer would not recall a car with universally reproducable show-stopping faults as you describe?

Well evo weren't alone in claiming it to be a Focus RS beater. Top Gear (as in, the TV programme), proclaimed it a far far better car, due to the fact that you can use all of the performance all of the time. But then I suppose turque-steering into a hedge is the new idea of performance thrills. But then I'm sure the two most respected authorities on fast cars are, in fact, talking shite, and the thrashy, stodgy and downright ugly Civic Type-R and just plain flawed Focus RS are by far an away the better cars.

Maybe they are, maybe they aren't. That's what's called "opinions".

Incidentally, your very own hallowed Top Gear themselves, when comparing the R32 against the Leon Cupra R, Honda Civic Type-R and Ford Focus RS said that it "lacks the spirit of the original", among other things. You're missing the point anyway, I never said the R32 was pants, nor did I say it was great. The difference here is that I have an objective/unbiased opinion of it - you seem to think its the best thing since sliced bread, I suspect, purely because you have a VW. You seem to have just shut your eyes to all the negative comments, but that's not really unsurprising.

The point is - I can find as many positive-bias reviews of the R32 as I can negative ones, as I'm sure you would as well if you'd open your eyes/mind. The same can be said for the Focus RS - there are at least as many rave reviews about the car as there are ones bemoaning the fact that it apparently can be "twitchy".

You pick up on a single comment (I presume the fact that it has been mentioned by Top Gear that the Focus RS LSD makes the car "twitchy") and suddenly its a car that drives itself into a hedge. A bit melodramatic surely?

But this is what I love about the self-proclaimed #q2.uk intelligentsia. They are ludicrously easy to wind up. Never mind. They'll catch on someday.

Not sure exactly who this is directed to, certainly I haven't been on #quake2.uk for longer than 5 minutes for years.

But thats irrelevant really, I don't honestly see how being in a channel renders a persons "ludicrously easy to wind up". Next you'll be saying that being on the channel makes a person incapable of logical/intellectual thought... Wouldn't want to give you another avenue to make another blanket, ill-thought statement though..

 

[~YuckFou~]

Originally posted by Durzel

I've seen at least two Ferraris broken down before, does that mean to say they're unreliable? Do you honestly think a manufacturer would not recall a car with universally reproducable show-stopping faults as you describe?

Fairly weak arguement tbh, no they wouldn't, commercial suicide. I was tempted to get a TVR recently, read reports, spoke to mates who have/had them, piss poor reliability and cars spending months back at the factory.
Ferraris are not the most reliable either, but can't afford one of those, yet.

If a car does what you want/need it to do then it's the right car for you. I drive an SLK, gets whopped by Boxsters, do I care? No.
I have a steel roof and more comfort, what I need. I'm past the need the fastest thing for my money age too

Anyway about these prostitutes.......

 

[nath]

Originally posted by Deadmanwalking.
Your a brave brave man durzel

*salutes*

lol. You fairy.

 

[xane]

I'm tempted to denounce the thread as moving off the topic of prostitutes onto fast cars, but I'm not so sure they are all that different.

Expensive, a waste of time, purely for solo enjoyment, and if you really want them to do what you want it's illegal anyway.

 

[nath]

That's deep, bro.

 

[Testin da Cable]

that's why he charges so much