Proposed Changes to TFC Servers

[Deady]

I intend on altering the setup of the TFC servers as below:

1 Old Maps [No Class Limits] ((Rock2, Well, 2Fort, cz2))
2 Old Maps [1 Sniper, 2 HWG Limit] ((Rock2, Well, 2Fort, cz2))
3 Old Maps [No Snipers, 1 HWG, 2 Engy] ((Rock2, Well, 2Fort, cz2))
4 New Maps, [No Class Limits] ((Badlands, Avanti, casbah, flagrun, Dustbowl, Epicenter))
5 New Maps, [1 Sniper, 2 HWG Limit] ((Badlands, Avanti, casbah, flagrun, Dustbowl, Epicenter))
6 New Maps, [No Snipers, 1 HWG, 2 Engy] ((Badlands, Avanti, casbah, flagrun, Dustbowl, Epicenter))
7 2fort only FF on [1 Sniper, 1 HWG, 2 Engy]
8 Hunted Only

Any Comments? Suggestions? Those will be the actual names of the servers (Apart from the maps in double brackets)

 

[Moön]

Looks good m8 and its good there's one there with sniper removed, this imo would allow people to play more of a league style game .

1 idea I have but I'd only so consider it if you find you have an empty server .
I know custom servers have been run before unsuccesfully but maybe on a trial basis you could run the BWTFCL map selection of the current season and use some class limiting like sniper -1

This would include some valve maps but also some other popular ones like monkey_l and shutdown2 and with a little pimping from me I think it may have a chance .

You'd still have a backtracking issue but it would be a start for bw to cater for its league players when their looking for some practice etc .

Anyway just an idea and if they all become popular you may aswell leave them as they are

gj dead :x

 

[exxxie]

I have nothing contructive to say on the TF[C] subject... but I would just like to lick Deady


/me licks


fanx

 

[old.Kez]

Mistah-excessbaggage, I salute you in your licking.

 

[Deady]

huhu

 

[Rubber Bullets]

I’ve not played TFC in over a year, but they look like a good start.

It has to be time, though, that the people at BW start to take the issue of backtracking seriously. It is just not good enough that there are still people on public servers wilfully killing members of opposing teams completely regardless of whether they are offensive or defensive players. These players should instantly be banned for life; there is no other way to deal with this problem.

I do propose that to make it easier for noobs, defensive players should be allowed to wear their shirts, and offensive ones should be ‘skins’. At least that way the less experienced players, or those not totally au fait with rules (that are written nowhere), would at least have a chance to avoid a life ban.

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Sorry Moon, couldn’t resist.

 

[Moön]

Problem here is your not asking any TFC players dead, all the bw public TFC comunity are n00bs and you wont get any idea of what the main comunity want .

BW will never have a "l33t" TFC server because you simply cant just ban lamers inthe way you can with a clan server, so I gues it may be worth while aiming at the players you already have....the newbs!

 

[Deady]

Theres no way to contact the n00bs.

They dont read MOTD's, they dont check these forums.

The only way would be to manually spam the address of this forum ingame....and even then i wouldnt be able to spam "http://forums.barrysworld.com/showthread.php?postid=252648#post252648"

So i'd have to spam "forums.barrysworld.com" and then everyone would just moan that they couldnt find this particular post.

:uhoh:

 

[Tui]

Looks ok except for having friendly fire back on the 2fort server. Unless your admins are going to regularly play on the server you'll have the same problem as before with team killers.

 

[Deady]

Weve got AutoKick to work.

Were planning on 4 TKs in 60 seconds = Auto 30 min ban.

So....be careful with those EMPs.

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

Ban people for playing in a way that you doesn't like.

Why bother to run public servers.


Banning people for 'life' for playing in a way which you doesn't like, why bother offering 'public' servers.


No offence but barrysworld offers servers to any clan who are serious about getting it together, and want something more than the norm.

It's rather piss poor that your wanting to turn the few public servers here into nothing more into the play dens that are clan servers.


Given that the number of clan servers on barrysworld/jolt massively outways the number of tfc public servers, i find it rather sad that the crusade is still to turn the free public servers into nothing more than whats available allready for the commited and there friends, who want to play without the underclass's.

TFC is massively popular because it's accesible to all, narrow minded rule changes to suit the few, never have worked on the tfc public network before.

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Im sorry but i realy wanted to talk about the rotations, im glad to see Cz2 back, it's one of my favs. But after reading down, and once again reading Moons elitest selfish attitude anyone who doesn't conform to doing it his way, i just got it in the head and had to say what i did.

/Back to the land of Morrowind me goes.......

 

[Moön]

Originally posted by Kurt_Angle
Ban people for playing in a way that you doesn't like.

That was a joke, obviously you missed it .

Originally posted by Kurt_Angle
Why bother to run public servers.

Is there any point to you asking that ?

Originally posted by Kurt_Angle
Banning people for 'life' for playing in a way which you doesn't like, why bother offering 'public' servers.

WTF are you on about ?

Originally posted by Kurt_Angle
No offence but barrysworld offers servers to any clan who are serious about getting it together, and want something more than the norm.

there are 8 TFC servers 4 of which are regularly used, 2 of those 4 for newbs, 1 for hunted and the last runs 2fort 24/7, you think changing the set up on these isnt a good move considering 4 of 8 servers are unused ?

Originally posted by Kurt_Angle
It's rather piss poor that your wanting to turn the few public servers here into nothing more into the play dens that are clan servers.

Whats being done here is their changing the tittle of the servers, no one is getting banned for backtracking and no one is being forced to play in ways they dont want .

Originally posted by Kurt_Angle
Given that the number of clan servers on barrysworld/jolt massively outways the number of tfc public servers, i find it rather sad that the crusade is still to turn the free public servers into nothing more than whats available allready for the commited and there friends, who want to play without the underclass's.

Why shouldn't barrysworld have a server to cater for its league players when they wish to play on a public ?
You think those 8 servers should all be used in the same way ?
I asked for 1 to be considered as a league style server .

Originally posted by Kurt_Angle
TFC is massively popular because it's accesible to all, narrow minded rule changes to suit the few, never have worked on the tfc public network before.

What makes you think you know what your talking about ?
TFC is arguably the most popular online league game available, its the league comunity that keeps it alive and saves it turning into a mod like firearms or something .

Originally posted by Kurt_Angle
Im sorry but i realy wanted to talk about the rotations, im glad to see Cz2 back, it's one of my favs. But after reading down, and once again reading Moons elitest selfish attitude anyone who doesn't conform to doing it his way, i just got it in the head and had to say what i did.

I've asked for 1 server nothing else, I dont see that as selfish do you ?
If you consider my attitude leetist try actually playing TFC for a while and you'l soon notice the comunity and ofcourse how they react to your lame opinions .

Its not someone being a newbie that I dislike its the ones who dont want to learn .

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

Fs

You have a fricken alarm bell that does off everytime somebody disagrees with your opinion.


Tbh m8 your attitude towards others stinks, i'll just hold the opinion on the things you say, have said, and the things you say you would do given the power.

Fs god given glory that never happens.
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Fact there are many many clan servers open to public play where you can write the rules as you see fit, the people who you claim would want to play in this manner of play, Know where they are

To try and enforce your rule book on a public server wouldn't work, you would just attract the plebs you don't like 24/7.

Unless they give somebody like you the rights on the server, in which case the server will sit empty 23hrs a day.


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"Its not someone being a newbie that I dislike its the ones who dont want to learn."


And you say you ain't full of it, get a frekin life, not everybody wants to learn from the clanners guide to TFC, some people just want to play the game for a bit of fun and a laugh, course you would say they need to join the 'x' newbie server, where no doubt as IS the case 24/7 on the barrysworld 'newbie' server, you will find atleat 4 or 5 so called 'elite' players spoiling 'there' fun.


If there unfortunate to run into people like you, then i pity them, because i can only imagine your as forcefull with your opinions on people who know no better, as your as stupid to belive i know nothing about the game.

You obviously don't know, or were not around when the barrysworld public servers got changed last time by the biggots who claimed they knew better.

Result, all empty severs for a few months:/

TFC was soo the much more fun before we started getting all the 'noob' 'can't ' do that stuff

Tbh moon you must be fecked in the head or something, you seem to take it all as if it's life or death stuff.

Trust me TFC did, and existed well, long before all the lame 'rules' came along.

 

[Skyler]

Custom league maps are a must imo

 

[Moön]

You sure 4 maps on the old map servers aint a little to short Dead ?

You obviously don't know, or were not around when the barrysworld public servers got changed last time by the biggots who claimed they knew better.

/me looks at Dead "biggot" LOL!

 

[old.D0LLySh33p]

Just thought I'd say this... I personally don't play TFC, I used too but found it boring (my own opinion!) and hence stopped.

Thing is, KillySh33p played it last night (first time in ages) and the first thing he noticed was that the servers were full of n00bs.

Oh well, my two pence/cents... I'll shut-up now.

 

[Deady]

I'd give a proper custom map server a go.

But i need suggestions on settings.

You say 4 maps isnt enough for the old maps, have i missed out any old maps?

I see Badlands is running currently on the "old maps" server, but i dont really see that as old, it was released in a patch wasnt it?

 

[]SK[]

Originally posted by Tui
Looks ok except for having friendly fire back on the 2fort server. Unless your admins are going to regularly play on the server you'll have the same problem as before with team killers.

I live on there.

Originally posted by Misterdead
I see Badlands is running currently on the "old maps" server, but i dont really see that as old, it was released in a patch wasnt it?

Yup Just before or with TF1.5. Push is an old map cant we play that?

 

[old.Kez]

Make all the servers Push only, that was a hallmark of a map.

 

[Skyler]

Hmm....

need more classic map servers tbh...

the new maps seem to kill servers a lot... if it was well/rock2/2fort constantly id be happier

 

[]SK[]

its well rock2 and 2fort on one of the old maps servers atm. 2fort has to be one of my fravs.

 

[Moön]

Cant you just have like a plain TFC server with all the valve maps running ?

 

[old.ossipetz]

greetings

what about the maps crossover2 and warpath? they are standart on a normal tfc installation? not too sure but i better ask


4 TKs in 60 seconds is a quite 'easy' - not only for engys, thinking of demo's (or those moving sg's) running around with a primed gren and get killed 'just in the wrong moment' then they have the capability to clean half the map 'by mistake'... so dont compile that setting into the game - maybe there will be some chanegs in near future

i would like to have that server number also into the servername. not sure if it was your intention...

cya
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[exxxie]

fs I cant speel

 

[Deady]

Updated version:

1 League Maps, [No Snipers, 2 HWG, 2 Engy]((shutdown_l, monkey_l, openfire_l, shutdown2, stowaway_l))
2 All Valve Maps [No Class Limits] ((Rock2, Well, 2Fort, co2, cz2, Badlands, Avanti, casbah, flagrun, Dustbowl, Epicenter, warpath))
3 Old Maps [1 Sniper, 2 HWG Limit] ((Rock2, Well, 2Fort, cz2))
4 Old Maps [No Snipers, 1 HWG, 2 Engy] ((Rock2, Well, 2Fort, cz2))
5 New Maps, [1 Sniper, 2 HWG Limit] ((Badlands, Avanti, casbah, flagrun, Dustbowl, Epicenter, warpath, co2))
6 New Maps, [No Snipers, 1 HWG, 2 Engy] ((Badlands, Avanti, casbah, flagrun, Dustbowl, Epicenter, warpath, co2))
7 2fort only FF on [1 Sniper, 1 HWG, 2 Engy]
8 Hunted Only

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

1 server only with no class limits.

Classic....

I fail to understand though why the only class's your limiting are the class's that have no effect on the actual game.

Surely 1 extreme is as bad as another.

Eg a team full of constant rushing medics is as bad for a game as a team full of defending engi's, or a team full of snipers.

Explain the teamplay element in that

Looks more like a fanboys setup to me, something in the context which 'won't' apeal to 'atleast' 80% or more of your tfc players on the public servers/


Welcome back to the days of old, your current 'list' ranks ten times better than this purposed one.

Was this actually compiled with the TFC playing public in mind?

 

[]SK[]

Welcome to BW where these servers have been like this for ages. I think yes you can voice your oppinion but why say things like 'fanboys setup' to the very people who try to make these servers work.

If you have an idea post it? Not just sit an moan?

 

[old.Kurt_Angle]

My 'moan'

Which along with Whine being the typical 'internet gaming geek' fanboy wording for something they want to pick at..

Was in fact constructive critism.

I i forgot, a small percentage of online gammers can read peoples states of mind

If Misterdead is going to post a purposed list, i presume he wants comments on it..

Why fecking bother to post it otherwise

My general points though were though that these purposed changes ain't aimed at improving the actual team play element of the game in anyway, more just pleasing the few that gather round and decide what pisses them off in the game.

The former should be of the priority, well that is the aim of the game isn't it...

Team play


My suggestion for the top of the line 'teamplay' server.

Limit the number of rushing class's that can con jump into the nme base 5-10 seconds after they have been killed on there previous attempt.

By this i mean 1 scout, 1 medic.

That would introduce more of an element of teamplay, instead of all just con rush the nme base constant soon as any flag gets released from the flag room.

Surely a good suggestion for a true teamplay element to be introduced into tfc/

 

[]SK[]

The rush is now a part of TFC. Deady of course posted to get feedback. If we didnt recieve feedback then why has he changed servers to match peoples requests. Thing is teamplay is never gonna exist on public servers. We know this by the fact that the server titles atm say 'Newbie' 'Skilled' etc... these titles certainly does not represent the style of play on the server.

 

[Deady]

Ill take Kurts feedback into consideration, but with only really 6 servers at my disposal the combinations are limited. (7+8 are popular already so i wont mess around with them (much)).

Trying to please every TFC player with just 6 servers isnt an easy task