[Pricecheck] Bracer of Silent Oblivion

Killswitch

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Got this bracer in my Reaver's 50 SC template. Dropped last night and I outrolled my best IRL mate 96 to 95 to get it!

Anyway, had a few people PM me about selling it. Like I said, it's in my template and it'll cost a significant amount to remake my template (since I've already bought/farmed most of the other item) BUT I'm overcapped on Melee Speed bonus, so I might consider selling and maybe redoing template with 2xEbon Hide Bracer or something.

I've never seen one of these for sale, it's high util and I have no idea what I should ask for it, if I decide to sell. I reckon it'll cost the best part of 10p just to remake my template (or hours of farming!). Think I'd be better to ask to trade for scrolls/artis? Still need Shield of Khaos (arti and scrolls) and scrolls for Belt of the Sun, Eerie Darkness Lightning Stone and Harpy Feather Cloak!!

Cheers :flame:

Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of Silent Oblivion
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 60 Hits
Effect 2: 22 Quickness
Effect 3: 22 Dexterity
Effect 4: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 4 Parry
Utility: 64.33
 

Eof

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So u need this bracer for your template and so does your best irl mate but you want to sell it???

Got mine for <4p
 

Killswitch

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Nope, got it for my template but am overcapped in melee speed increase, so could possibly redo template without it, but would have to buy/farm/level some new things (and either sell or give to alts/friends some old stuff)

The Bracer ISN'T in my RL mate's template, he just happened to roll for it when the lotto came round.

Think I'm leaning towards keeping it. Maybe swapping Shield of Khaos for Cyclops Eye (get rid of my 5% melee speed increase and maybe max some more resists or something)
 

Draylor

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Dont use cyclops shield on a tank class - its very slow (4.5 spd?) which makes landing shield styles even more of a pain in the :kissit: :p
 

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Problem is that the char is a Reaver. AFAIK Reavers appear on Hybrid tables and as such, even with my 50flex/42shield spec, my weaponskill is still so low that I've almost given up trying to land slam in RvR.

When I get home from work, I'll post my template on FH somewhere for constructive flamage :touch:

ps I like Judas' reply...shall we start the bidding at 10p + Scholar's Notes book + Bellona's book? I can hope, can't I? :flame:
 

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Ssssh! I just spent my last copper getting to LGM alch (mmmm..BLACK cloth dye:clap: )

Need to make some money so I can get my 50 template finished and get to Emain for some serious HOLYSHITISTHATSTUPIDREAVERADDINGAGAINFFSWTFPWNAGE?!?!?!?!?
 

Taen

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tbh u won this bracer and it wasnt in ur template probably ... I went on ml5 raid last night because it was in my template in hope that i would be able to win it or buy it ... u hadnt the balls to tell me u were a greedy bastard. U assumed that because i pmed u that it was worth loads ... I told u most were sold for around 4 plat ... which is true .. Now i hope u have real trouble selling because there are plenty good bracers in ToA for a tank ... It makes me sick that you are such a greedy lying bastard.

P.S. Two of those bracers dropped last night and i traded for the other one so :kissit:
 

Rhirap

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uh, last time i checked it didnt HAVE to be in your template to lotto for it, and he is merely asking for a pricecheck saying he may consider selling...he would hardly claim it was in his template AFTER he won it, if it wasnt...and just FYI, saying he is a greedy bastard couldnt be further from the truth.
 

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Nah...as I've said about a million times I have the bracer in my template. As I've also said, I've capped melee speed %age and therefore might not be getting the best use from the item.

If someone else needs the item and will get better use from it than me, I might be willing to sell it. What I will NOT do is sell it for 4p if it will cost me 10p+ to redo my template without it!!

How the hell does me not wanting to LOSE money make me greedy? I think that some people on FH have a seriously screwed attitude when it comes to this. Hell, why I don't I just GIVE someone the bracer and the artis I've gotten for my template and I'll just do the whole thing again from scratch?!?!?!

If I can't sell it, then I'll use it. If someone wants it, they can damn well pay me for the time and effort I've used AND cover the cost of replacing the bracer in my template! I'm not a DAOC Registered Charity.

Now...if you want to hurl abuse at me that's fine. However, if you actually think about it, despite wanting to KEEP the item, I'm seeing if anyone else can make better use of it.

Right after I spoke to you, I had a PM from someone offering 10p for the bracer. We talked a bit and he really needs it. I need a few scrolls that I've had no joy farming so I've asked if he can get hold of them. If I don't have to farm those scrolls, I can use the time to make money to rejig my template. I get a good template and don't waste the (very useful) +melee speed on the bracer and he gets the bracer he wants for (hopefully) a price he feels is reasonable.

Anyone else think I'm being overly greedy here? I could just keep the damned thing and then presumably I'm being greedy then too.

Grats on getting the Bracer btw Taen. I know it's all you went on the raid for and I'm glad you got one :)

Got a bit carried away with the length of this post....:m00:
 

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Killswitch said:
Ssssh! I just spent my last copper getting to LGM alch (mmmm..BLACK cloth dye:clap: )

Need to make some money so I can get my 50 template finished and get to Emain for some serious HOLYSHITISTHATSTUPIDREAVERADDINGAGAINFFSWTFPWNAGE?!?!?!?!?
how much did it cost to reach lgm? 1,1k?
 

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Not sure about the total cost (and I'm pretty sure I didn't use the prefect method) but I reckon I spent between 10p and 12p getting from 900-1000. Been nice and cheap from 1000-1032, maybe about 300g. Now from 1032-1094, I have no idea...but wouldn't be surprised if its another 10p+ :)

Next crafter is going to be a tailor...I've heard they're pretty cheap to level

:clap:
 

Taen

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Rhirap said:
uh, last time i checked it didnt HAVE to be in your template to lotto for it, and he is merely asking for a pricecheck saying he may consider selling...he would hardly claim it was in his template AFTER he won it, if it wasnt...and just FYI, saying he is a greedy bastard couldnt be further from the truth.

I didnt say it had to be in ur template to lotto for it ... i pmed him when he won to buy/trade it from him. What I dont like is when somebody tells me that it is in their template just to knock the price up ... and then come on FH and ask how much it is worth so he could sell it for ubah plats .. i dont think anybody is really going to rework their whole template because something is worth a few bob.
 

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ugh...last chorus...

My template WASTES the Bracer because I OVERCAP melee speed increase. I might even be able to make a BETTER template if I rework it. The problem is that it will cost TIME and MONEY to rework the template.

If someone can make BETTER use of the bracer, then I'd CONSIDER selling it to them, but only if they PAY enough to make it worth my while. No I wouldn't pay 20p and rework my whole template to get an extra 5 dex and a couple more capped resists. I MIGHT be willing to make that effort if I can get some CASH to offset the COST.

That way, BOTH people get a BETTER template. In fact, as I believe I SAID, if someone who really NEEDED this bracer wanted to make a CASH plus SCROLLs/ITEMS offer, I'd CONSIDER that.

Can a mod PLEASE lock this thread? :(

Provided the thread is still open, I'll post the template when I get home from work. I know that doesn't prove anything, but it might help to illustrate my point. I'd also be glad of any advice on how to improve it, maybe by TAKING OUT SOME MELEE SPEED INCREASE ITEMS. Could remove Shield of Khaos so I'll just hit 10% cap with Bracer of Silent Oblivion, iirc
 

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Killswitch said:
Ssssh! I just spent my last copper getting to LGM alch (mmmm..BLACK cloth dye:clap: )

Need to make some money so I can get my 50 template finished and get to Emain for some serious HOLYSHITISTHATSTUPIDREAVERADDINGAGAINFFSWTFPWNAGE?!?!?!?!?
Think maybe this post has something to do with this continued debate. Too late to delete it now, but possibly people reading this thread (poor bastards) might try to believe this was a JOKE and not a serious comment. Necro+FoP buffbot can farm 2-3p a night without breaking a sweat. Me, my GF and my mate also run a DF diamond group that can prolly push 5p+ a night now we have 2 FoP clerics (if we ever have DF again).

The money is not the issue, I repeat the money is NOT the issue...
 

mmmpie

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the bracer is teh roxor it also have a str/con decrease! and 10 plat is a cheap prize for that bracer imo,since u can sell easier farmed scrolls for 15 plat(mad 3/3)
 

Taen

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Killswitch said:
Think maybe this post has something to do with this continued debate. Too late to delete it now, but possibly people reading this thread (poor bastards) might try to believe this was a JOKE and not a serious comment. Necro+FoP buffbot can farm 2-3p a night without breaking a sweat. Me, my GF and my mate also run a DF diamond group that can prolly push 5p+ a night now we have 2 FoP clerics (if we ever have DF again).

The money is not the issue, I repeat the money is NOT the issue...

I disagree .. the money was an issue and is an issue or we wouldnt be having this conversation. I dont really give a fuck anymore and mmpie anyone that I have spoke to who bought/sold the bracer paid/sold it for 4-5plat so I dont know what part of your anus you are pulling that price out of :flame:
 

Golena

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That explains the offer of 1 plat plus some junk that you put up then?
It also explains the starting offer by one of your guildies 5 minutes later of 10 plat?

who is the greedy one here?
 

Killswitch

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Don't have a copy of the old template with Shield of Khaos, but here goes...

Config Report
Stats
Str: 72 Int: 0 Hits: 268
Con: 77 Pie: 28 Power: 0
Dex: 82 Cha: 0
Qui: 75 Emp: 0
Resists
Body: 28 Energy: 26 Crush: 32 (2)
Cold: 22 Matter: 27 Thrust: 29 (3)
Heat: 30 (5) Spirit: 36 (5) Slash: 24
Skills
11 Flexible
11 Shield
12 Parry
Focus
Cap Increases
72 Hits
Other Bonuses
18 AF Bonus
4 Melee Damage Bonus
10 Fatigue
10 Melee Speed Bonus
Piece Listing
Chest
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 28 Piety - 99 perfect Watery Essence
Gem 3: 10 Dexterity - 99 flawed Vapor Essence
Gem 4: 7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Utility: 56.00
Arms
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Strength - 99 precious Fiery Essence
Gem 2: 25 Constitution - 99 flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 3: 25 Quickness - 99 flawless Airy Essence
Gem 4: 36 Hits - 99 imperfect Blood Essence
Utility: 57.00
Head
Name: Winged Helm
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 5 Fatigue
Effect 3: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 4: 15 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 6: 15 Strength
Effect 7: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.00
Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Flexible - 99 flawed Molten Magma War Sigil
Gem 2: 4 Shield - 99 flawed Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 52 Hits - 99 faceted Blood Essence
Utility: 71.00
Hands
Imbue Points: 36.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 3 Shield - 99 rough Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 7 Thrust Resist - 99 imperfect Airy Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Heat Resist - 99 imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 28 Quickness - 99 perfect Airy Essence
Utility: 61.67
Feet
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 7 Energy Resist - 99 imperfect Light Shielding
Gem 2: 4 Flexible - 99 flawed Molten Magma War Sigil
Gem 3: 4 Shield - 99 flawed Fiery Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 9 Slash Resist - 99 polished Watery Shielding
Utility: 72.00
Right Hand
Name: Snakecharmers Weapon
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Flexible
Effect 2: 4 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 4 Cold Resist
Effect 4: 4 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 3 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 7: 4 Body Resist
Effect 8: 4 Spirit Resist
Effect 9: 4 Melee Damage Bonus
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 63.00
Left Hand
Name: Cyclops Eye Shield
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 5 Heat Resist
Effect 3: 5 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 5 Body Resist
Effect 5: 8 AF Bonus
Effect 6: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 40.00
Two Handed
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00
Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00
Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Body Resist
Effect 2: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 3: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 4: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00
Cloak
Name: Harpy Feather Cloak
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 6 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 4 Parry
Effect 5: 5 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 56.00
Jewel
Name: Eerie Darkness Stone
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Heat Resist
Effect 2: 3 Matter Resist
Effect 3: 3 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 3 Cold Resist
Effect 5: 3 Body Resist
Effect 6: 3 Slash Resist
Effect 7: 3 Energy Resist
Effect 8: 3 Spirit Resist
Effect 9: 3 Thrust Resist
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 54.00
Belt
Name: Belt of the Sun
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Fatigue
Effect 2: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 3: 10 Strength
Effect 4: 10 Dexterity
Effect 5: 5 Energy Resist
Effect 6: 5 Spirit Resist
Effect 7: 5 Crush Resist
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 43.33
Right Ring
Name: Cenalons Ring of Might
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 25 Strength
Effect 2: 12 Dexterity
Effect 3: 12 Constitution
Effect 4: 4 Spirit Resist
Effect 5: 4 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 48.67
Left Ring
Name: Ring of the Seven Storms
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Parry
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 6 Crush Resist
Effect 4: 15 Constitution
Effect 5: 13 Dexterity
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.67
Right Wrist
Name: Bracer of Silent Oblivion
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Parry
Effect 2: 22 Dexterity
Effect 3: 22 Quickness
Effect 4: 60 Hits
Effect 5: 2 Melee Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 64.33
Left Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 2: 6 Body Resist
Effect 3: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 5: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00
 

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Bracer 4tw

Im Killswitch's G/F im also an ice wizz we can rake in more then that bracer is worth easy you tell me if you spent 10p on your template would you give your template away for free?....... No you would want the money for it and thats all kill wants, The money to replace and change his template without the bracer
 

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You win a bracer to complete your template ... someone offers to buy it. I offered an artifact + all scrolls + 2 RA stones + 3 plat ... I would hardly call that junk ... you say no, that you are not selling it because it is in your template. The following day I see in FH trading section ... pricecheck on bracer of silent oblivion ... I will sell it if someone offers me shitloads because since someone pmed me last night looking to buy it and I now think its worth shitloads... Imo whatever you say or post you were a greedy bastard. If money comes to you so easy, why are we having this conversation.
 

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Taen

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tbh I dont care either way now ... just forget about it
 

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Well if you dont care why go on about it you the one who's calling names and being childish, all he is saying is if somebody needs it in there template that bad thats what he needs to change his so they can have it. Its up to them then, and if no one wants it he will keep it in his template. so just chill :bazbeer:
 

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Taen said:
What the hell do u think those items are worth compared to that bracer ... completely unrealistic trade. He could sell those for a fortune compared to what that bracer is worth ... :kissit:

Again, if the bracer is only worth 4 plat, why did it take under 10 minutes to get someone offering over double that!

Since you seem to value not ripping people off you would like to explain how you ended up with a soloable artifact your now trying to sell? Decided that since you could make a quick bit of money out of it you would remove the possibility of someone who needed it doing being able to complete it before it respawned?

Or maybe you got it for your template, but then saw that you could swap it for a more expensive item also in your template?

Simply asking how much it is worth is hardly being greedy. I notice you only started screaming about how you needed the bracer for your template AFTER it dropped.
 

Taen

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Golena said:
Again, if the bracer is only worth 4 plat, why did it take under 10 minutes to get someone offering over double that!

Since you seem to value not ripping people off you would like to explain how you ended up with a soloable artifact your now trying to sell? Decided that since you could make a quick bit of money out of it you would remove the possibility of someone who needed it doing being able to complete it before it respawned?

Or maybe you got it for your template, but then saw that you could swap it for a more expensive item also in your template?

Simply asking how much it is worth is hardly being greedy. I notice you only started screaming about how you needed the bracer for your template AFTER it dropped.

Ok dipshit ... I am ml8 ... read my fuckin sig ... what reason would i be on a stupid ml5 raid unless i needed something ? The artifact I had was one i was going to use when soloing because it had stealth lore but is not in my main template like the bracer is. I did not want to part with the artifact and I will be getting another one when i get the time. Ask any of my guildees if that bracer was in my template .. i have been trying to get my hands on it for ages ... it has not dropped in the two previous ml5 raids as i had been in touch with the raid leaders as to if it dropped or not on the night. Its not in many templates .. its not that uber .. its in my template because I had trouble finding a decent bracer because of the artifacts I had chosen as other bracers were overcapping me. Imo if something is in your template its in your template ... someone offers to buy it and all of a sudden all the hard work you have done on your template is tradeable for a few plat .... its a case of people as usual milking every situation for every penny ... in other words greed. I will not have any use for any large amounts of cash once my template is done ... I am simply trying to get finished with ToA and get back to emain and I resent that greedy bastards make me farm cash for hours just because they need shitloads of cash for god knows what .... so they can become lgm in every trade .. so they can decorate their house and other endless types of boring bullshit. As for the guildy who offered 10 plat .. they did not even know the stats of the bracer but because I wanted it so bad they must have assumed it was uber and offered you that much money ... when i finally got the item and showed the stats there was no longer any interest in the item ..
 

mmmpie

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Taen i payed 12 plat for my bracer of silent oblivion,and u may say its way overprized,it aint imo,since the crazy prices came with toa! u can solo a mad 3/3,but u need 2-3 fgs for ml 5.10!
 

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