Price of petrol

[Lamp]

Anyone else noticing its going up every week ?

A few weeks ago, my local garage was selling a litre of petrol for 102. Went to fill up this morning, and its now 110 ! Texaco.

Tesco seems to be the cheapest, but the quality of their fuel isn't brilliant

There's a petrol station in Sloane Avenue (one of the posh parts of London) doing it for £1.50 a litre ! But thats the exception.

/moan over

 

[Raven]

Good old labour

 

[Golena]

It's time to invade another oil rich country!!

Someone make a poll to decide which one imo!

 

[cHodAX]

Will be £1.50 a litre for us all by 2015, get used to it. By the time we hit 2030 you won't get a litre for under £5.

 

[georgie]

Will be £1.50 a litre for us all by 2015, get used to it.

I was thinking more like 2010 tbh. :england:

 

[Billargh]

Try 2009! :<

 

[Calaen]

before that happens there will be a new super dooper means of fuel, but why should they bring it out now when they can wring the last profits from Petrol and Diesel before switching over to a new cheaper form of fuel.

 

[Lamp]

You can bet your bottom dollar that whatever substitute fuel is eventually brought in will be taxed to the hilt. The duty mark-up on a litre of fuel is incredible. I'm not sure the exact percentage, something like 70% is pure duty ?

The government would shift that duty over (they couldn't afford not to), either directly or indirectly (eg increases in council tax, road tax, income tax, etc).

Even if the entire country moved to bicycles, they'd be a leg tax...

 

[crispy]

Maybe these oil prices will give us some decent public transportation, bike roads and nuclear energy! That would be pretty sweet :>

 

[tris-]

You can bet your bottom dollar that whatever substitute fuel is eventually brought in will be taxed to the hilt. The duty mark-up on a litre of fuel is incredible. I'm not sure the exact percentage, something like 70% is pure duty ?

The government would shift that duty over (they couldn't afford not to), either directly or indirectly (eg increases in council tax, road tax, income tax, etc).

Even if the entire country moved to bicycles, they'd be a leg tax...

they already tax the clean stuff.
you pay VAT on solar pannels, right?

and to build wind farms, will involve tax.

etc

 

[Mey]

Wind farms aren't a viable renewable energy source, nuclear is the only way to go!

 

[tris-]

no but its "clean".
my point is building them and maintaining them is probably taxed

 

[Bugz]

Wind farms aren't a viable renewable energy source, nuclear is the only way to go!

NIMBY ta.

Also, if we build too many nuclear power stations - we will need a hell of a lot of security. Can you imagine terrorist attacks on a nuclear power station. My god...

 

[Mey]

O nos the terrorists!

Nuclear power plants are probably the most secure power sites in the UK.

As for the clean comment, nuclear power is clean and safe.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well, not to get into the whole "which energy to use"(go with the one with most power/safe ratio...oops..got in it anyway...), but...

Also, if we build too many nuclear power stations - we will need a hell of a lot of security. Can you imagine terrorist attacks on a nuclear power station. My god...

Umm. So. If i build one nuclear plant. It won't get blown up by terrorists(like now). But if i build TWO, then we're up sh*t creek if i don't upgrade security?

 

[Bugz]

Nuclear power is not clean or safe. There is no current way to dispose of the waste other than leaving it to radioactively decay via. half life.

Most of our storage techniques work for 50-100 years - not thousands of years that nuclear power nucelii takes to decay.

As for the terrorist comments - at the mo I can't see any nuclear power stations getting targeted but for the future - it is certainly something to bare in mind. A power station in every region would open up a lot of opportunities for the budding terrorists of tomorrow.

 

[Calaen]

Well al be dead in under a hundred years anyway who cares about thousands of years.

 

[Bugz]

Well al be dead in under a hundred years anyway who cares about thousands of years.

Well that's my thoughts too - but try telling Greenpeace that!

 

[Mey]

Independent studies have shown that for the UK to replace the exisiting nuclear capacity with renewable energy we would need a land mass the size of Wales. How is that a relaisitc technology? Should we just move 5 million people over to england to make way for giant turbines that may work if the wind is blowing the right way?

Nuclear power has vastly improved in recent years and technology is well underway into the re-use of spent "energy".

 

[Helme]

Money spent trying to find alternatives to nuclear power could be spent improving nuclear power instead. There really is no other choice currently.

And this is coming from a guy who lives in Sweden where we abuse water power :<

 

[Hawkwind]

Should we just move 5 million people over to england to make way for giant turbines that may work if the wind is blowing the right way?

Nuclear power has vastly improved in recent years and technology is well underway into the re-use of spent "energy".

Welsh should stay put, maybe live underground in the old coal mines, thinks Morloch's

You are correct about nuclear power even Green Peace/FOTE have admitted nuclear power is our best bet. As for storage of spent fuel rods there were plans to put it on the moon.

If not Welsh coal mines will do

 

[Mey]

They are developing the technology to convert spent fuel rods into MOX which not only will help with the "storage problem" but will give us yet more energy.

Nuclear power have a carbon free footprint. What we should be spending our money on is research into fusion.

 

[old.Tohtori]

As for the terrorist comments - at the mo I can't see any nuclear power stations getting targeted but for the future - it is certainly something to bare in mind. A power station in every region would open up a lot of opportunities for the budding terrorists of tomorrow.

I meant that, if the nuclear security is enough now to keep terrorists out, surely more nuclear palnts won't make it easier?

As in, if they are secured like others.

 

[Mey]

I meant that, if the nuclear security is enough now to keep terrorists out, surely more nuclear palnts won't make it easier?

As in, if they are secured like others.

Hoorah!

You are right, Nuclear power stations have there own dedicated "police force" to guard them and are as I said before probably the most secure sites in the UK. You'd probably have more chance of robbing something nuclear from the Army.

 

[Bugz]

Nuclear power stations have there own dedicated "police force" to guard them

Ah - I wasn't aware of this.

Pretty neat tbh

 

[Mey]

Ah - I wasn't aware of this.

Pretty neat tbh

Civil Nuclear Constabulary

Not that it matters anyway cause if we do increase our nuclear power output the reactors will be built on existing sites. So no big impact on security just a few extra staff..

 

[Vasconcelos]

Hoorah!

You are right, Nuclear power stations have there own dedicated "police force" to guard them and are as I said before probably the most secure sites in the UK. You'd probably have more chance of robbing something nuclear from the Army.

Well, i've had always my good share of objections to nuclear power. Guess Chernobyl disaster kinda gives me the creeps.
But lately, and thinking about how the renewing energies like wind or sun are still in a disapointing state, I'm more prone to new nuclear power programs al over EU.

However, didnt consider the matter of terrorism.... I agree that a nuclear plant is for sure a heavy guarded n safe place. But when i think about some nuts stealing a plane and crashing it into a nuclear facility.... thats a scary thought....

 

[Eeben]

Well, i've had always my good share of objections to nuclear power. Guess Chernobyl disaster kinda gives me the creeps.
But lately, and thinking about how the renewing energies like wind or sun are still in a disapointing state, I'm more prone to new nuclear power programs al over EU.

However, didnt consider the matter of terrorism.... I agree that a nuclear plant is for sure a heavy guarded n safe place. But when i think about some nuts stealing a plane and crashing it into a nuclear facility.... thats a scary thought....

im pretty sure that they are so secured that you could fly a plane into it with out anything happening ..

 

[Bugz]

im pretty sure that they are so secured that you could fly a plane into it with out anything happening ..

Interesting concept really.

I imagine it could do some damage but I would hardly think anything on the nuclear-explosion-kills-millions-side.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Bugz it's not a concept actually. There's video footage of them testing, flying a 747 into the security walls outside nuke stations, and of the 747 basically being obliterated and the wall standing proud