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Hello :)

I was just wondering how many pressups / situps you people do (if any) at night or even in the morning. I have started a routine of 30 pressups, 30 situps, and 60 bicep curls every night. Obviously they are spread out with a small break of getting a pint of milk :) (went to shops especially to buy some today).

After the first day my pectorals, abdoms and biceps were killing me as i aint really used it to, but I hopefully will become strong and get in shape (mainly as im goin gran canaria in June/july and dont want to be looking out of shape).

Also going to be using an exercise bike which puts alot of strain on your thighs as its really old but will surely get your legs strong!
 

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Get a skipping rope too. :) Great cardio work out. Recently started again, since I don't like running around people.

Ontop of what you do ofc.


Use to do situps/pressups - Toned a little bit then stopped. First did 10 for a week, then 20, then 30, then 40 etc.. Works eventually, but you need to eat the proper food too etc. =<
 

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I'm moving my right arm to eat in the morning, that's a good sport to wake up =)

But seriously, a skipping rope is a quite nice training instrument and I think it's rather fun aswell =)
 

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a skipping rope is a quite nice training instrument and I think it's rather fun aswell =)

Cheap too! :D Actually had to go into JJB sports to pick a proper one up =( I was scared.
 

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Usually just do 3 sets of as many as i can on the days i have don't have kickboxing, since basicly they work my abs hard enough.
Arms, pecs, shoulders and back is taken care of at the gym rather than at home. But not everyone has time for that ofc :)
 

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Hello :)

I was just wondering how many pressups / situps you people do (if any) at night or even in the morning. I have started a routine of 30 pressups, 30 situps, and 60 bicep curls every night. Obviously they are spread out with a small break of getting a pint of milk :) (went to shops especially to buy some today).

After the first day my pectorals, abdoms and biceps were killing me as i aint really used it to, but I hopefully will become strong and get in shape (mainly as im goin gran canaria in June/july and dont want to be looking out of shape).

Also going to be using an exercise bike which puts alot of strain on your thighs as its really old but will surely get your legs strong!
Every evening or every other evening, depending on how busy I am, I do 10 slow (2sec up, 2sec down motion) bicep curls with a 25kg bar. The last curl I try to hold it as long as I can halfway on the down motion.
Also 10~20 slow pressups (same 2/2 second motion) with my feet on the bed or couch, and the hands on the liftingbar.
I don't like the sit-ups really, so I don't do those :)
 

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200 situps
100 press up

each morning and each evening (if im not drunk/tired :p)
 

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1000 a day!

Yesterday I could only do 5 each but I did an 80's montage now I am super fit!
 

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So hang on, you're doing 30 pressups, which works your chest, which is a very big muscle.

Then you're doing double that for your biceps? :eek2:
 

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So hang on, you're doing 30 pressups, which works your chest, which is a very big muscle.

Then you're doing double that for your biceps? :eek2:

I was going to say the same, more weight, less reps FTW

+ you should really do more than situps for an abs workout

It's a good start though, add some lunges, stretches, and various other bits and it will help. Talking of which i need to hydrate myself for the going to the gym in an hour (although as it's during my working day i get paid for the time i work out :) )
 

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Do how ever many exercises as you want but to finish off take a cold shower this allows the muscle to rebuild in a better way else you end up just buring fat then your muscle hence the "burn", im not fit but im not a small guy either, 6ft2inches, played alot of sport when i was younger and now the occasional game of football, i did 100 pressups one night with a mate who does boxing and is silly fit, after i took a cold shower i couldnt walk properly for days but thats because i did too many pressups, was fun... :)
 

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200 situps
100 press up

each morning and each evening (if im not drunk/tired :p)

too many reps imo, you need to increase the resistance. For sit ups, rest your legs on something like a chair while you're lieing on the floor, also, do them much slower. and try and keep your head focused on the same spot on the ceiling.
 

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Do how ever many exercises as you want but to finish off take a cold shower this allows the muscle to rebuild in a better way else you end up just buring fat then your muscle hence the "burn", im not fit but im not a small guy either, 6ft2inches, played alot of sport when i was younger and now the occasional game of football, i did 100 pressups one night with a mate who does boxing and is silly fit, after i took a cold shower i couldnt walk properly for days but thats because i did too many pressups, was fun... :)

i thought the fat burnt to fuel the muscles, and the muscles burn because they are all fucked up and need to repair
 

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muscles burn because they are all fucked up and need to repair

or you didnt warm down after and have accumulated lactic acid in them ;)

Cant see how the cold shower thing has anything to do with fat tbh :S

http://gamesdevelopment.gaa.ie/page/recovery_from_exercise.html said:
* Reducing Muscle Damage

Muscle damage occurs naturally in each training session and game. Often the damage is microscopic, with the effects not being felt for up to 48 hours (often called Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness, or DOMS).

Cooling the muscles after exercise is a good way to reduce muscular damage and soreness, with there being a number of different options for coaches to condider:

o Contrast Recovery (Hot/Cold)

This involves submersion or covering the body in hot (must be bearable to the individual) water, followed by the same with cold water (with a temperatute of approximately 15°C if possible). The guidelines for this are two minutes hot, followed by 30 seconds cold. This is repeated two-four times (as necessary).

o Cold Immersion

This is similar to above except it is just cold immersion. The guidelines for this form of training are 30 seconds – 1 minute immersion, followed by 1 minute out of water (towel dry). Repeat this three times.

o Ice Massage

This form involves ‘rubbing’ the muscle groups which have been trained, with ice. This can either be done with ice in a plastic bag, or a cooling bag. The guidelines for this are one minute on one minute off, for a total of four minutes on each area/limb.

Make sure that you keep the ice moving over your skin, do not keep the ice stationary for any period of time as ice can burn! If you have any circulatory or sensory (e.g. paraesthesia) problems please check with your doctor.

Extreme care must be taken when using these, as some players may be very sensitive to extreme changes in temperature and may find the experience of going from a warm environment in the training area or dressing room into a cold shower or ice bath painful, or may go into shock. Always check how a player responds to cold before use. Careful monitoring of players at this time is advised.

It is always advisable to consult a doctor before introducing such regimes into the post training or game practice.
 

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200 situps
100 press up

each morning and each evening (if im not drunk/tired :p)

When you can do this ammount of situps\pressups you should start using weights to make the muscles bigger, instead of making them endurant. Its better to do 50 really hard situps, then to do 200 easy peasy ones:)

I dont do workout in the morning, I dont have time for it. But I play soccer three to four times a week, and when im not playing soccer i work out with weights.
 

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Do how ever many exercises as you want but to finish off take a cold shower this allows the muscle to rebuild in a better way else you end up just buring fat then your muscle hence the "burn", im not fit but im not a small guy either, 6ft2inches, played alot of sport when i was younger and now the occasional game of football, i did 100 pressups one night with a mate who does boxing and is silly fit, after i took a cold shower i couldnt walk properly for days but thats because i did too many pressups, was fun... :)

Thats the biggest load of crap i've ever read :p

A cold shower straight after isn't a great idea because you're reducing your core temp way too fast so the DOMS are going to be much worse.

The burn is actually the accumulation of lactic acid within your muscles due to a change in blood pH iirc, something like that anyway.

Anyway low reps & high resistance = mass and strength building

High reps & low resistance = muscular endurance

Besides press ups suck for mass :(
 

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tnx for advice guys... ive just started my programme so to say, will take alot of this into consideration.
 

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i thought the fat burnt to fuel the muscles, and the muscles burn because they are all fucked up and need to repair

Carbohydrate is your bodies first energy substrate called upon (well Creatine-Phosphate system if you're being pedantic but still), which comes from muscle Glycogen stores, basically stored carbs in the muscle.

Fat is burnt when glycogen levels are too low to fuel respiration, muscle is burnt when you've fasted for too long.
 

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Carbohydrate is your bodies first energy substrate called upon (well Creatine-Phosphate system if you're being pedantic but still), which comes from muscle Glycogen stores, basically stored carbs in the muscle.

Fat is burnt when glycogen levels are too low to fuel respiration, muscle is burnt when you've fasted for too long.



Listen to the fitness man :<
 

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Thats the biggest load of crap i've ever read :p

A cold shower straight after isn't a great idea because you're reducing your core temp way too fast so the DOMS are going to be much worse.

The burn is actually the accumulation of lactic acid within your muscles due to a change in blood pH iirc, something like that anyway.

Anyway low reps & high resistance = mass and strength building

High reps & low resistance = muscular endurance

Besides press ups suck for mass :(

I was not on about building mass, as i said my mate is a 'fit' boxer, ie speed agility and strength, he goes to the gym for weights, the cold shower thing IS reccomended also, what are DOMS anyway?

http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/showers.html; said:
Cold showers have the following positive effects:

*Brings blood to the capillaries, therefore increasing circulation throughout the body.

*Cleans the circulatory system.

*Reduces blood pressure on internal organs.

*Provides flushing for the organs and provides a new supply of blood.

*Strengthens the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems.

* Contracts the muscles to eliminate toxins and poisonous wastes.

* Strengthens the mucous membranes, which help resist hay fever, allergies, colds, coughs.

They do help, honest, hes been training for years.

If you want to keep going we can:

http://www.menshealthsa.co.za/static/askus/index.php?advice_pill=47&advice_ques= said:
I`ve heard that taking a cold shower after a long run will lessen muscle soreness. Is this true?
You`re going to have to take it a step further than a cold shower. Try an ice bath. Fill a bath one third full of ice cubes and one third cold water, let it stand for 10 minutes and then climb in. Let your muscles soak for 30 seconds at first, increasing exposure to up to eight minutes if you can tolerate it. We used this method effectively in the heat of the Athens Olympics and it certainly seems that the muscles recover from strenuous activity quicker.
 

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vlad has a PhD in being strong though, i think he is probably right.
 

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I was not on about building mass, as i said my mate is a 'fit' boxer, ie speed agility and strength, he goes to the gym for weights, the cold shower thing IS reccomended also, what are DOMS anyway?



They do help, honest, hes been training for years.

If you want to keep going we can:

not taking one side or the other but earthclinic is not a reputable source for info seeing as it is a website for folk remedies which arent peer reviewed by anyone with a medical qualification
Its the same as someone here on a chat forum giving you medical advice
 

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cant you just build a levee or sumthin ? , hate to see all this energy go to waste :)
 

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Vodkai said:
I was not on about building mass, as i said my mate is a 'fit' boxer, ie speed agility and strength, he goes to the gym for weights, the cold shower thing IS reccomended also, what are DOMS anyway?

The big muscley guy at the gym who's been training for years is always giving out advice to the newbies, that doesn't necessarily mean it's right.

Doms = Delayed onset of muscle soreness. Where lactic acid produced by incomplete breakdown of glucose hasn't been buffered away by the sodium bicarbonate from the kidneys due to exercising anaerobically.

As said by Chronic said earthclinic isn't peer reviewed, mens health is a pile of garbage as well for exercise/health & fitness. If you want a real magazine read Muscle & Fitness.

Ice baths also have no scientific backing or proof that they aid recovery, it's still only theories and guess work.

Need we go on? :)
 

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Yesterday I could only do 5 each but I did an 80's montage now I am super fit!

rofl, this made me laugh :D but now i've got that bloody southpark "we need a montage" song stuck in my head :( Damn you!!
 

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I do 1 hr on my stepper usually going really fast for the first 45 mins then slow down while i do arm work out at same time (i have those wrist/ankle weights that are full of sand and wear them on wrists while stepping) for 10 mins then off with the weights for a fast burst for a few mins then a 5 min slow down which takes me to an hour then tis on to zee floor.


I do 50 sit ups (one to the right one to the left counts as one whole sit up) then 100 pelvic lifts then 25 normal sit ups then 100 things where I look like Im running but laying on my back, lifting legs up and having them go up and down to my chest with weights on ankles then 25 side to side sit ups then 50 leg lifts where I use my stomach muscles to bring my legs towards my face while my feet are flat facing the ceiling, then I do stretches for about 10 mins.

this I do 5 or 6 times a week along with long walks and stuff during the day.

the sit up thing is best (I heard a personal trainer saying it on tv) if you vary the sit ups because if you just do the up/back motion your muscles become used to it and you get hardly any work out from it so mix it in with side to sides and try to go up and down slowly to build stamina.
 

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I do 50 sit ups (one to the right one to the left counts as one whole sit up)

the sit up thing is best (I heard a personal trainer saying it on tv) if you vary the sit ups because if you just do the up/back motion your muscles become used to it and you get hardly any work out from it so mix it in with side to sides and try to go up and down slowly to build stamina.

Depends what you're aiming to do. If stamina is your main goal then high reps is what you want. If you're actually trying to burn of fat then you're still doing too many reps.

I personally do 50, using the left/right motion you mentioned (but not counting one left, one right, as "one" situp. Each rep counts as 1), but I go to efforts to make the reps much more strenuous. Starting with elevating my legs and now moving on to weights etc. As a result the 50 situps I do tire me out a lot more than doing 200 "easy" reps. As soon as I get used to doing a certain ammount of weight, I increase the effort required to do a situp, not the ammount of reps I do.

Put simply:

Low reps, High effort = Building muscle, burning fat.
High reps, Low effort = Increasing stamina, toning.
 

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Depends what you're aiming to do. If stamina is your main goal then high reps is what you want. If you're actually trying to burn of fat then you're still doing too many reps.

I personally do 50, using the left/right motion you mentioned (but not counting one left, one right, as "one" situp. Each rep counts as 1), but I go to efforts to make the reps much more strenuous. Starting with elevating my legs and now moving on to weights etc. As a result the 50 situps I do tire me out a lot more than doing 200 "easy" reps. As soon as I get used to doing a certain ammount of weight, I increase the effort required to do a situp, not the ammount of reps I do.

Put simply:

Low reps, High effort = Building muscle, burning fat.
High reps, Low effort = Increasing stamina, toning.

Although that said you won't burn much fat, if any at all through resistance work, you will increase your calorie burn over time by increasing your muscle mass, but aerobic/cardio work and watching what you eat is the only way to actually remove the fat :)
 

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