Poll thingy (stealthers only)

[wittor]

what ever i need to gank spanish noobfils if that means speccing mos5 then i do it but i will gank their silly little necro powered asses all across the NF....

oh pls

 

[Mrmuscle]

but i do it right now so why should it change go back to your paella....

 

[Appollo]

but i do it right now so why should it change go back to your paella....

keke

 

[Mrmuscle]

the difference being im able to spot the stupid mofos before they jump me...


unlike now but oh i forgott its only SB's that got SH im sorry..:Þ

 

[censi]

General Formula:

1) The bigger the newb the higher the MOS

or

2) deygofotmpldinf = MOS5

tbh the more gimped MOS5 infs or archers about the better. You can attack me first and the watch as I tear yee a new asshole.

 

[Mrmuscle]

General Formula:

1) The bigger the newb the higher the MOS

or

2) deygofotmpldinf = MOS5

tbh the more gimped MOS5 infs or archers about the better. You can attack me first and the watch as I tear yee a new asshole.

u do know that this is a computer game!2!1!"1!11!!1


bet your parents didnt see the requested age before they bought the game...

 

[Bishibosh]

u do know that this is a computer game!2!1!"1!11!!1


bet your parents didnt see the requested age before they bought the game...

'scuse me but weren't u the person who made discriminatory remarks about an entire nation simply because you dont like a class in a computer game? its good that you're aware of other people's over reactions but take a look at urself first.

 

[Bishibosh]

u do know that this is a computer game!2!1!"1!11!!1


bet your parents didnt see the requested age before they bought the game...

I mean , come on. step back, look at your life. Ask yourself where exactly you are heading in life, and ask yourself whether constant flaming of random players who had no problem with you before it is of any value to your actual happiness. Come on... Get a good job, smile, make friends, find a wife, be happy. Thats my advice for the day.

this isnt a flame, as i dont want to get u all excited or anything, it's just a suggestion

PS i'm sorry if it makes you cry when you review your life at the moment... its the first step of the way.

 

[Nebel]

I think MoS will unbalance the stealther wars ALOT.

A high rr stealther, will have the luxury of getting MoS 3-5, while still having some basic ra's that help u win fights.

A lower rr stealther has 2 options :
1) spec high MoS and have NO other decent ra's (in other words, bonus kill)
2) spec low MoS with decent ra's, but get owned by other people who have higher MoS than him

FFS does this sound reasonable?

Hmm... since a higher MoS doesnt negate a lower MoS i dont think so.

As archer i will get MoS2 or 3.... enough to avoid every PA, a MoS4/5-SB or NS will see me earlier.... so what?... nothing has changed to todays See Hidden.

 

[censi]

post your characters in your siggy mrmuscle.

If you gonna be da bitch, at least be da man to.

prolly a warder thinking of mos5 fortehwin!

 

[Kinad]

I have a feeling lots of keepbattles in NF so i think important as an archer to
up damage/utility as much as posibel.

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AP : Worthless unless you play a group archer.

AoM : Nice, and very allround these days. Still some patches ago i think it was
modified after resists, so not so sure what return will be.

IP + toughness : Allways a good combo increasing eachother. Not calculated
it yet but seems better than to take high AP/AoM. Only needed against assasins or very hard targets.

FE : It has bad damage return and needed to be calculated around damage*0,25. Some levels will probaly be needed.

+dex : Very handy for variance on bow/ws, and if piece/thrust also a melee boost.

Purge : Might take this to level 3 depending on amounts of keepbattles,
dots, stuns and nukes will be flying around, and might well be worth the points.

MoS : I newer needed MoS really to fight assasins, and spending huge amount of rps on a skill which lets me find a few assasins each week i think not the way. Lots of tools in ToA/NF to disable assasins even after a pa,
and camo will negate it. With shield trip i will have 3-4 types of 'cc' to let me fire zephyr on top of phaseshift, so doubt assasins will be a problem.

To be honest i think archers got screwed with ra's in NF, but since maps
are different it will make up for it.

 

[Kinad]

General Formula:

1) The bigger the newb the higher the MOS

or

2) deygofotmpldinf = MOS5

tbh the more gimped MOS5 infs or archers about the better. You can attack me first and the watch as I tear yee a new asshole.

1000+ damage at first strike > any level of ap, aom and toughness.

Here is just an example.

MoS5 : 2000 hp -> 2000 hp
Ap5 : 2000 hp* 1,26 - 1000 hp -> 1520 hp.

Still i dont think MoS worth it, but in pure performance avoiding getting first
strike in above scenario much better.

Dont thrust US players evaluations, 99% of them has no clue whatsoever.
99 % of US rangers making melee specs around AP thinking they will be yber,
until they meet the 99% of assasins using elemental weapons.

 

[Jaem-]

nice views Kinad, will help me pick some

 

[judas]

MoS5 :> or it will be hard to get pa' in if they see me earlyer then i see them :>
after all cs>dw in fun

 

[Marczje]

Dragonfang is the fun m8s!!

 

[Kinad]

Here is another evaluation archer/assasin using 400 pts debuff, 300 pts xtra viper3 and not considering reapplying of poisons.

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Purge3(considering it up 99%) + IP3 : Removes debuffs and viper3.

2000 hp - 400 hp (wont get those back and considering fast firing of purge to negate viper) + 0,8*2000 hp = 3200 hp

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IP3 + toughness5 : Does not remove debuffs or viper3.

2400 hp - 400 hp - 300 hp(viper3 will run at full lenght) + 0,8*(2400 hp - 400hp) = 3300 hp.

Above just an example which shows its not simple to pick best ra's in NF, but of the above option 1 is much better utility wise at same cost. Then again if
your fighting a melee class option 2 better.

 

[Brilliance]

imo all rr6 + infils should get mos 4 or even 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so they can see sb's faster , and not fail their first DUAL SHADOWS!!111

 

[Arawn]

I wont get MoS...coz mythic fucked up Minstrels

 

[liloe]

I wont get MoS...coz mythic fucked up Minstrels

I'm sry, that's not true.....Minstrels had NEVER MoS so how can you say you won't get it cause Mythic did crap? Maybe you could say that if MoS was implemented in that form for mincers in an earlier patch, but what I really don't understand is, that people whine cause of changing patch notes. You simply cannot take everything they're testing 100% serious, it's subject to change. I'm not discussing wether they do enough/good changes, but if something gets out while testing, you never had that ability, simple as that. If you start relying on something 3 months before you get it, then there's something wrong.

 

[Appollo]

imo all rr6 + infils should get mos 4 or even 5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so they can see sb's faster , and not fail their first DUAL SHADOWS!!111

Can i PA 1st then DS?

 

[Powerslave]

hmmm, what if i dont have MoS at all??

will i be detected from the range of the See Hidden ability now? (unless i have camouflage on)

 

[liloe]

hmmm, what if i dont have MoS at all??

will i be detected from the range of the See Hidden ability now? (unless i have camouflage on)

you don't need MoS to add on our fights at mmg /slap

and to your question: MoS only increases YOUR speed/see radius and has nothing to do with the range at which you can be seen. So camo will only protect you from enemies with MoS.

 

[Appollo]

hmmm, what if i dont have MoS at all??

will i be detected from the range of the See Hidden ability now? (unless i have camouflage on)

Your Sb bodyguards will see them 1st SIMOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

 

[Powerslave]

QQ more imo

i dont think its that usefull for non-assasin classes then. maybe for minstrels cause they dont have camo etc.

 

[Moo]

After we've learned about the messing up of stealther ra's, and Mastery of Stealth introduced as the only thing u can get..........QQ :

How much MoS will u get, and why?



Discuss

I CANT EVEN GET MOS

**** MYTHIC

 

[Brilliance]

Can i PA 1st then DS?

oO and infil with PA?!

go mercfil, imo ruining the tradition

 

[Appollo]

Im both

 

[Ging]

oO and infil with PA?!

go mercfil, imo ruining the tradition

lol my guess at rr10 eljat will have 21 CS (PA), 30 st, 50 DW, 50 Thrust and 30 env with a nice round +20 on all, so after you get PA'ed for 400-500 u will be DS'ed with DF backup in approx 3-4 shots, ofc thats only a guess :

 

[Appollo]

lol my guess at rr10 eljat will have 21 CS (PA), 30 st, 50 DW, 50 Thrust and 30 env with a nice round +20 on all, so after you get PA'ed for 400-500 u will be DS'ed with DF backup in approx 3-4 shots, ofc thats only a guess :

22cs

 

[Maricious]

Remove all greek stealthers imo!

QQ more imo!!! :kissit: