Poetic Justice - The birth pains of the Kaminjosvig

[Sharkith]

Ok so the Corp started over 2 months ago (the first 3 weeks were spent on concept, website design and general faffing around).

It has not been plain sailing by any shot of the imagination. One of the guys I recruited 5 weeks ago (ucntkilme) wanted to run the corp in a different way. He wanted us down in CVA space fighting against Pirates. I am not totally sure what bit of Mercenary he didn't get but there you go. Coupled with this was the fact that I had trusted him way too soon and allowed him access to the corp wallet. I thought he was going to be really good at getting us started.

Over the next few weeks he would keep taking around 7-15million from the corp wallet. Not regular just now and then. I started to get a bit alarmed by this but had other things to worry about like recruitment. Then we got a really good PvP'er into the corp the kind of guy with huge balls who liked to talk about his exploits. He was really funny loads of character. This rubbed ucntkilme up the wrong way and one night he really went off at this other (very experienced PvPer) in corp. I revoked ucntkilme's roles and set him back to ordinary member.

This was a relief and initially ucntkilme took it very badly and was going to leave. After a mail suggesting that he had been a bit cookie and that he should give it another go maybe work his way back to the position he was in. He agreed to stay. At least I had him away from the corp wallet!

Steersman
So we hold elections for Steersman and ucntkilme got voted in. This means that he is one of the political leaders of the corp with myself and the PvPer.

Steersmen get a budget to spend on the players buying them ships and modules. I only put a niminal fee into the wallet for I did not trust ucntkilme. Sure enough he took 7million within two days of getting access. This time I asked him to put it back. He was a bit bitchy about it in corp chat but the money went back over the next day or two.

Then I find out he is bitching about the direction of the corp and that some of the others are agreeing with him (he is a US player and we have a contingent of US players in the corporation). I took him to task about this on the forums and basically said get behind us or leave. He then resigned his roles and prepared to leave. I outlined in a Corp mail that anyone else who identified with Ucntkilme should go. We lost one other member.

Ucntkilme took the 20million isk from the steersman's budget when he left and a few days later declared war on us.

The war
The war is due to start 12.30am Sunday morning. Ucntkilme talked to some of our members like Hugg and Wellsy (old timers) saying this was my fault and that none of them had to engage and he would just kill me a couple of times and be done. He was trying to get people to leave but his war declaration got everyone behind the corp. People moved location to our home system and members started saying that they would fight even if they didn't have the skills. Which was really cool - in other words his war dec was counter productive.

The first engagement of the war was when he decided to engage our member Lord Warpy who was mining in Abagawa. The war dec was not operational and he lost his ship to concord. Sadly we were left without any serious engagement and simply had to go and loot his wreck. At least we got back some of the ISK back that he took (the total isk he took over time was 108million).

Ucnt 0 - 1 KJG an own goal.

As the evening passed and he bitched at Warpy in a convo we discovered that we had sold a new Drake to guess who?

yes - Ucntkilme we now had over 50 million ISK back off him.

Then later that evening Ucntkilme is definitely sore and two of our industrial characters decide to have a bit of fun.

Nabaron and Warpy waited till the war went into effect, and as soon as the war became active Ucnt showed. The guys ganged up undocked and went to buisness, after 5-10 minutes of fighting, they got him down to 70% (tech one and two frigates versus a heavily tanked Drake). The two players were industrialists and just didn't have the training to break his tank. But they had great fun. They lost a couple of small ships and had real fun fighting someone for that long (which is exactly the point of the Corp!).

So Ucntkilme got two kills.

He then dissappeared for about 3-4 days and eventually arrived back in Abagawa last night. We waited all night until he undocked and warpy set a bait trap for him. LTLT (Raven) and I (Megathron) warped in and less than a minute later Ucntkilme's ship was in pieces and I got my first pod kill in The Kaminjosvig.

Kaminjosvig Killboard - Week 32

What you don't know is this guy set the killboard up - Ironic that he was the first kill on it. No?

Nat/Sharkith

 

[taB]

Good on you mate, sounds like you've separated the wheat from the chaff If him taking 100mil has caused everyone to work together, I'd consider that isk well spent.


Esz.

 

[LordjOX]

Hehe, neat
However he prolly had it in his mind all along to swindle to him as much ISK as possible and then run off.

 

[taB]

fyi: recruitment post

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Haha, nice story. I liked the part most where he gets killed by Concord and then buys the ship from your corp again.

I'd prolly shoot him down while he was still in the corp (done that with spies in the past), but I understand you have a different approach.

(P.S.: Own killboards are not so good in my opinion, some epeen stroking + it basicly says what you fly, what you fire and when and where you do it. When you accumulate the data you can make a good guess about someone's capabilities. That's basicly free information and saves you some time on intelligence gathering. And intelligence gathering and resulting preparation + deception as counter attacks to it is everything in EVE's (fine way of) PvP.

To give you one example: I used to fly and scout solar systems and the pilots in it, in a safe way. The enemies would shoot at me, show me what modules they use and so on. But they'd not be able to kill me, because I was in a runner ship. I'd come back in a relativly weak looking ship, maybe even the same, and take them out against the odds, because I knew what I had to fit to shut the down.

I killed a Gallente Covert Op, a Raptor and a Rifter in a dogfight this way once. In a Vigil, 3 vs 1. You can't do such a thing without information about your enemies ships and so on.)

Sometimes I'd go out in a superior ship, but half into armor, trying to trick people into thinking it's an easy kill, as I am already damaged.

 

[Sharkith]

(P.S.: Own killboards are not so good in my opinion, some epeen stroking + it basicly says what you fly, what you fire and when and where you do it. When you accumulate the data you can make a good guess about someone's capabilities. That's basicly free information and saves you some time on intelligence gathering. And intelligence gathering and resulting preparation + deception as counter attacks to it is everything in EVE's (fine way of) PvP.

As a Mercenary corp our epeen will be our life so even though I am not dying about them we really have to have one especially for our campaigns. The eve Dev one is the best even though the coding is really badly organised.

I agree with your comments though about scouting. In the case of this guy I simply don't do anything without double checking the systems around where he is with an alt before engaging because he cannot be trusted.

As for the concord incident the whole corp was like WTF?

 

[Alexandrinus]

i htink i wasnt able to read the clock, get in a fight 10 minutes bevor the war starts shows how much brain he has.