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swords

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Does seem to happen when groups move to IRvR from Agramon because there aren't any groups to fight yet, but people should be a little bit more patient before going into HW. 10 more minutes and we would have been roaming in Decayed lands plus a few hib groups. Later in the evening a few of those groups went back to Agramon from HW and had some clean fights which is surely the point of going to Agramon?
 

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Gahn said:
Also u added on me on Arethir with your full group on Beno at least 3 times and near Dc Docks.

I was driving the tt group all of last night, and we didnt even go past hib milegate in Agramon let alone into Emain and DC area, so you are possibly mistaken. As for Beno, I dont think we saw any soloers, so it would be hard to comment...
 

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Rigga Mortice said:
I was driving the tt group all of last night, and we didnt even go past hib milegate in Agramon let alone into Emain and DC area, so you are possibly mistaken. As for Beno, I dont think we saw any soloers, so it would be hard to comment...

It was 2 days ago or so, anyway nm shit happens, it's only depressing to see ppl who u have respect for do it.
Oh well shit happens as i said.
 

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Vodkafairy said:
nothing wrong with kitegroups at all, it's just a seriously idiotic trend that people seem to like because it gives them the ability to point fingers and cry like a child instead of just play better and kill them.

people on cluster should give some credit to those very few groups who are still out, or eventually they will perish too and guess what the whine will be about then? indeed, no groups buhuu qq. :(

really, you seem to change opinion according to what or with who you play at the time and forget about everything else. i dont want to turn this into some personal flamewar as i like you if in the same group, but you turn into an absolute **** for no real reason if in another realm. shame really, /shrug.

Probably gonna make me sound like a elitist prick but anyway, its not like we dont kill them, we kill almost every group on this server, kite or no kite just that fighting kitegroups is beyond boring and when i played with you guys i had never played against an casterkite group before. :)
When you come up against a kitegroup it really doesnt matter if you win or lose, the fight is gonna be boring no matter what happens.

Sollers said:
And that one example is at the same time the only example, why are you pointing that out? We're not a kitegroup and you know it. Stop the trolling already, what's the point. You don't see us being arses about killing your group 3-1 last week when you didn't have a BD in, so stop being an arse yourself.

And if you're so experienced in kite RvR, you should know that the midgard instakills you describe above (interrupt this that, next target, ta-da etc), are a major reason for people to kite versus them. Which then brings us to the bridgefight-issue and your question whether we would have won the fight had it been on open land... Though its hard to say obviously, we would have a way better chance yes as we don't have the amount of instas mid has to use in these tiny boxed and LoS-issued areas. I'm sure you figured yourself though, as you're so experienced on both sides

Ditch the theu and we'll talk about the bd, kek. :)
 

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Septina said:
Probably gonna make me sound like a elitist prick but anyway, its not like we dont kill them, we kill almost every group on this server, kite or no kite just that fighting kitegroups is beyond boring and when i played with you guys i had never played against an casterkite group before. :)
When you come up against a kitegroup it really doesnt matter if you win or lose, the fight is gonna be boring no matter what happens.



Ditch the theu and we'll talk about the bd, kek. :)

Ditching theurgs or BDs wasn't my point. My point was not to lable people as kitegroup because they do it once, as we don't lable you as no-skillers after we beat you 3-1 one night when you were running without a BD.
 

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Sollers said:
Ditching theurgs or BDs wasn't my point. My point was not to lable people as kitegroup because they do it once, as we don't lable you as no-skillers after we beat you 3-1 one night when you were running without a BD.

One night, forever etched in your memory? :)
 

Sollers

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Septina said:
One night, forever etched in your memory? :)

Hahaha, you just keep telling yourself that :)

.... see if you can find your way to Agramon again from now on btw, you won't have a chance to prove your elite skills to us when you're running in HW :(


I'll leave you to it now, after your last post you made me pity you in a way and I fear if we keep going I will really start caring ;)
 

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Sollers said:
Hahaha, you just keep telling yourself that :)

.... see if you can find your way to Agramon again from now on btw, you won't have a chance to prove your elite skills to us when you're running in HW :(


I'll leave you to it now, after your last post you made me pity you in a way and I fear if we keep going I will really start caring ;)

Lets see, fight one group in agramon every 20 - 30 mins and win easily by pushing all over them or run in HW with constant action?
Really hard decision. :)
And got nothing to prove really, the results speak for themselves.
 

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Septina said:
Even a monkey gets lucky from time to time.
Do it regularly and i might shut up.
And the fact remains, look back one year, how many people ran casterheavy groups, not many and look now. 99% of the albgroups out there are casterheavy and why? Because people found out that its an easy setup to play and it works well.

We only have 3 casters in group and so do you so whats your point?

Septina said:
One difference tho, we're not the 'skillcrew' that kites on inc. :)

Edit: One example today, we meet your group in agramon, fight starts at albbridge, you guys keep kiting and kiting and kiting till you hit the albion milewall and cant kite anymore and dies.
Fighting castergroups is so insanely boring cause all you do is push, push, push and then push some more, hit this target and interrupt it, hit next target, interrupt it and then ta-da. Win win.
Really really fun indeed. :D

That was my fault and the reason they were moving away was that I was afk
at a stupid time due to people banging on my door and I don't think they wanted to fight as 7. Correct me if I'm wrong about this instance.

Septina said:
Lets see, fight one group in agramon every 20 - 30 mins and win easily by pushing all over them or run in HW with constant action?
Really hard decision. :)
And got nothing to prove really, the results speak for themselves.

The problem is that it's not just your group which was thinking that :(. If all the guild groups which went into HW decided to go into agramon, the action there would have been just as much with a lot less chance of getting adds.
 

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Arethir said:
Can people keep Agramon RvR INSIDE Agramon???

Ran out twice from beno now not getting past the bridge, and it's dull. Even if you win you still have to go back for rb coz there's so damn many groups camping around here.

Its war between the realms. Kill as many as u can...
 

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kirennia said:
We only have 3 casters in group and so do you so whats your point?



That was my fault and the reason they were moving away was that I was afk
at a stupid time due to people banging on my door and I don't think they wanted to fight as 7. Correct me if I'm wrong about this instance.



The problem is that it's not just your group which was thinking that :(. If all the guild groups which went into HW decided to go into agramon, the action there would have been just as much with a lot less chance of getting adds.


1) You kite, we dont. Be it cause of bd or not, its hard for any midgroup to beat a good albgroup with a theu in it. :)

2) Hard for me/us to know if you're afk or not. :(

3) I'm all for Agramon over HW, reason i started the irc channel is cause i want rvr in agramon but not much to do when theres fuckall action in there cause of IRVR.
 

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Wow, some big quality whine thread this turned into.

SC, I can't remember anywhere i said you were camping a bridge. And the only fight i can remember us having close to a bridge we had no adds. Really I can't remember anywhere i even said the name of your grp. But anyhow if I did, then I'm sorry, that's not the way I meant it.

Gahn, I really can't remember where i zerged you down except for on my pala on the top of the hill next to crim. And that was only because you and a huge bunch of other hib stealthers kept camping that area and killing my theurg, so the only way i could get trough was to get rid of you first. On my screen i got stunned by one NS, followed up by 2 other NS' hitting me dead within half a sec. And you were one of them. The first time i could understand, as you actually get rps then. However the third, fourth and fifth it kinda started to piss me off, as I was rs every single time, aswell as unbuffed. Even if i took big loops around the hill i found the same bunch of stealthers killing everything trying to get past. And you don't even know the name of my theurg afaik so how can you say i zerged you down with it. And my pala never left the crim area that night either, only my theurg did. (Once the stealthers were dead.)

And I thought mids had IRvR all night so didn't think running trough agramon would be faster if you wanted to get to HW. But then again I didn't really pay much attention to the warmap.
 

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I don't think mids got IRvR until 8 - 8.30pm (GMT). We will still go through Agramon, to get to HW if its got a bit zergy, incase we can pick a fight on the way.

It gives us more time to abuse Nate. Thats one of the problems with IRvR, no time to abuse the rest of the group. Its die, buff, go rinse repeat ...
 

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give every zergysoloer his own bridge:p
comes with patch 1.88 every soloer can summon his own bridge :eek7:
 

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Septina said:
Or high rr add grp.... err hib grp sorry :(

if by what u mean is killed while resting in middle of agramon...i alrdy appoligised. but i still dont care septina, ur an easy mode player end of story.
 

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prodical said:
if by what u mean is killed while resting in middle of agramon...i alrdy appoligised. but i still dont care septina, ur an easy mode player end of story.

I mean that and alot of other incidents by your guild. :p
And we all cant play hib hardmode like you. :(
Plus, alb and hib was too hard for me, couldnt stand not instakilling everything so i went mid. Honest!
 

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Dunno why theres QQ about high RRs because they do play very well and are a tough fight. Indeed saying that its because they play Mid is equally silly as its relatively balanced in terms of viable setups between the realms. The issue here is about getting more groups into Agramon and keeping the existing groups interested and present. Last monday and tuesday there were plenty of groups out and it was a very good evening regardless of who beat who, who lost to who etc. It was also a good chance to fight some different setups and try improve teamplay for the set groups which will result in more challenging fights later on down the line. You might get owned now but maybe in a few weeks you can be the ones owning the more challenging groups now.
 

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swords said:
Dunno why theres QQ about high RRs because they do play very well and are a tough fight. Indeed saying that its because they play Mid is equally silly as its relatively balanced in terms of viable setups between the realms. The issue here is about getting more groups into Agramon and keeping the existing groups interested and present. Last monday and tuesday there were plenty of groups out and it was a very good evening regardless of who beat who, who lost to who etc. It was also a good chance to fight some different setups and try improve teamplay for the set groups which will result in more challenging fights later on down the line. You might get owned now but maybe in a few weeks you can be the ones owning the more challenging groups now.


constructive, but i was trying to agiate septina, but he saw some humour in it ;)
 

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Septina said:
I mean that and alot of other incidents by your guild. :p
And we all cant play hib hardmode like you. :(
Plus, alb and hib was too hard for me, couldnt stand not instakilling everything so i went mid. Honest!

and hib is the hardest realm to play atm, with all the recent patches. and when do my grp add in agramon? yes i admit we add in irvr, but thats what irvr is, survival, if u dont kill them there and then you get added on by them later or the inevitable zerg finds you. its wat we call rp farm if im not mistaken.

incidents happen ;)
 

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I got a game idea. With all the huge e-peens here we could just have their owners swing them in a circle and all others jump each time they pass.....sounds good? Ok then JUMP!!

No seriously, who cares how often you won/lost or if you can kill the whole server at once =)) RvR is becoming like voting, you vote 10mins and then talk about it for 2weeks =))
 

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Arethir said:
Wow, some big quality whine thread this turned into.

SC, I can't remember anywhere i said you were camping a bridge. And the only fight i can remember us having close to a bridge we had no adds. Really I can't remember anywhere i even said the name of your grp. But anyhow if I did, then I'm sorry, that's not the way I meant it.

Gahn, I really can't remember where i zerged you down except for on my pala on the top of the hill next to crim. And that was only because you and a huge bunch of other hib stealthers kept camping that area and killing my theurg, so the only way i could get trough was to get rid of you first. On my screen i got stunned by one NS, followed up by 2 other NS' hitting me dead within half a sec. And you were one of them. The first time i could understand, as you actually get rps then. However the third, fourth and fifth it kinda started to piss me off, as I was rs every single time, aswell as unbuffed. Even if i took big loops around the hill i found the same bunch of stealthers killing everything trying to get past. And you don't even know the name of my theurg afaik so how can you say i zerged you down with it. And my pala never left the crim area that night either, only my theurg did. (Once the stealthers were dead.)

And I thought mids had IRvR all night so didn't think running trough agramon would be faster if you wanted to get to HW. But then again I didn't really pay much attention to the warmap.

Just to point out that i said u did it with Pala and gave for granted that running around with a theurg in IRvR alone = zerging with the rest of mass, but as i already wrote in the other post (which prolly u have missed) it's np shit happens.
 

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prodical said:
and hib is the hardest realm to play atm, with all the recent patches. and when do my grp add in agramon? yes i admit we add in irvr, but thats what irvr is, survival, if u dont kill them there and then you get added on by them later or the inevitable zerg finds you. its wat we call rp farm if im not mistaken.

incidents happen ;)

How exactly is it the hardest realm to play in atm with all the recent patches?
 

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i think its because bm´s are the most useless lighttank, bainshees hits like flies and well the rest of the classes is just not worth mentioning (sp?)
 

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