Please stop killing me!

[wyleia]

Now, Im sure you think this thread is directed towards hibs/mids since I am a alb, but its directed towards other albs!!!

Tanks:

Fact #1: RvR != PvM The more dmg u do to a troll does not raise his aggro level towards you and pull him off me.. Any tank with 1/1000 of a brain will not turn from hitting me to hit you.

Fact #2: When I have a full health tank hitting on me, you CANNOT kill him faster than he can kill me!! The only person that can save me from him is myself or a cleric. I will be using all my powers to qc mezz and more and more times lately, a helpful tank comes over to 'save' me and breaks that mezz.

Fact #3: Casters die SO much quicker than big old troll looking things. (take it from me, i know from first hand experience). IGNORE things with weapons out and head out to their casters/healers for once. Leave the tanks to us mezzers and rooters on the backline.

Fact #4: I dont have my RA to mezz alb tanks yet who come along and break my mezzes but fear if i ever get it.. until then you will get a good chewing out from me when it happens so hopefully it wont happen again.

Fact #5: We sorcs DO have remove mezz, and I am getting better and better at using it. So dont be afraid to charge if you see me behind you. I will try my best to free some of u to beat on casters

Fact #6: Sure if the thing is almost dead and beating on me, sure kill it, but full health things LET ME CC THEM!!

Fact #7: Yes i know that tanks can purge and come after me still, but we got this handy second line CC spell called AERoot that we can use after our mezz, so CC is NOT dead yet

So hope to see all you guys out there on the battlefield not blindly choosing the target closest to me but choosing a bit smarter allowing me to do my job Which is not to dmg deal, but to crowd control. (pick a target who does NOT have a big glowing weapons out and in combat mode!!!)

Wyleia Mythweaver
50th Sorc of The 30
http://www.the30.org.uk

 

[old.Jeriraa]

Don't listen to her! It's all lies!!! Whats the point in doing insane damage when your target goes down after 3 hits? Go for the tanks instead of those pesky casters.

Edit: Damn, this is the general section... MIDS PLEASE IGNORE WHAT I WROTE

 

[Meatballs]

plz slam when braking roots/mez thanks!

 

[Turamber]

So - what do you want the tank to do again? Leave the enemy tanks to you? And what should they do if they Purge, resist completely or the length of the mezz is much reduced by their resistances?

If all the tanks are hitting on the enemy casters in any of those eventualities you'll be just as dead.

I know that I've broken mezzes on targets before - and thats down to one thing: the graphics engine. Even on my stonkingly powerful pc I have to use /effects self or the game is unplayable in RvR.

Only one point here from a tank to a caster: give us a break and don't expect us to get everything right, 'cos you don't either.

 

[maxgirth]

Originally posted by Turamber
So - what do you want the tank to do again? Leave the enemy tanks to you? And what should they do if they Purge, resist completely or the length of the mezz is much reduced by their resistances?

If all the tanks are hitting on the enemy casters in any of those eventualities you'll be just as dead.

I know that I've broken mezzes on targets before - and thats down to one thing: the graphics engine. Even on my stonkingly powerful pc I have to use /effects self or the game is unplayable in RvR.

Only one point here from a tank to a caster: give us a break and don't expect us to get everything right, 'cos you don't either.

Have to agree with ya Turamber on this 1 bud,if theres any enemy waving its arms about or carrying a staff, thats who I go for, as do many other tanks I know,when will we get the credit we deserve.

Dont forget as well Wyleia that a tank, through every single level has been protecting the butts of casters from mobs by falling back and taunting agroing mobs from them,so if you get relative n00b tanks RvRing with ya,tell them that the system works differently in RvR to PvE,where for you guys its pretty much basically the same as what you have grown accustomed to.

It takes time to adjust to a completely different strategy after all them months of playing a certain way.

 

[Turamber]

Originally posted by Meatballs
plz slam when braking roots/mez thanks!

A missed slam, AFAIK, will break both roots and mezz.

 

[wyleia]

Originally posted by Turamber
So - what do you want the tank to do again? Leave the enemy tanks to you? And what should they do if they Purge, resist completely or the length of the mezz is much reduced by their resistances?

If all the tanks are hitting on the enemy casters in any of those eventualities you'll be just as dead.

I know that I've broken mezzes on targets before - and thats down to one thing: the graphics engine. Even on my stonkingly powerful pc I have to use /effects self or the game is unplayable in RvR.

Only one point here from a tank to a caster: give us a break and don't expect us to get everything right, 'cos you don't either.

What will I do if they purge? Root and sprint the point being is when i have a mob of tanks on me you cannot save me you can only kill me unless u are guaranteed to slam so he doesnt hit me 3 times before u kill him.. So if you cannot save me go for their casters while their tank is busy with me if i fail my job. use that time wisely That tank will kill me faster than you can kill him. So take some of their casters down, ive had tanks pulled off me that way before, our tanks after their casters draws the tanks back to protect the casters, then its all over if the nukers get free.

And i get your point about /effects self but if things are all around me at full health its just a deathtrap unless i get them cc-ed.

And no Im not expecting you to be perfect, but THINK before you swipe at the biggest target is all.. the smaller ones are usually far more dangerous than the big ones.

Wyleia Mythweaver
50th Sorc of The 30
http://www.the30.org.uk

 

[vermillon]

Originally posted by Turamber


A missed slam, AFAIK, will break both roots and mezz.

if the oponent is mezzed/rooted go from the side or behind him,
95% you will have a successful slam. Slam is not position based but i'm talking of experiance.

And something else , slamers get a shield with 30% bonus or at least 25%.

 

[Turamber]

Originally posted by vermillon


if the oponent is mezzed/rooted go from the side or behind him,
95% you will have a successful slam. Slam is not position based but i'm talking of experiance.

And something else , slamers get a shield with 30% bonus or at least 25%.

I think missing a slam has more to do with your second thought here - no different to missing an opponent in epic armour 'cos of the lower bonus on the weapon. As slam isn't position based it's likely that's just a co-incidence. Talking from experience

 

[Turamber]

Originally posted by wyleia
And no Im not expecting you to be perfect, but THINK before you swipe at the biggest target is all.. the smaller ones are usually far more dangerous than the big ones.

Always do think Wyleia - and from experience I know that as soon as our casters die they will criticise tanks, whether they charged the enemy casters or stayed to defend the Alb casters. Personally, being shield specced, I will try and defend our casters - but it appears to be a thankless task for the most part.

My damage output is so woeful that 1v1 with a caster the other day I landed 7 hits on him, including some criticals, and the guy still lived - then his mates arrived and ganked me.

 

[vermillon]

=)

Originally posted by Turamber


Talking from experience

My friend Turamber son of Hourin i don't want to offend you but wasn't you 2h till you respeced to 1h shield?

ps : Stop playing alts and come to emain to make a nice group !!!!!!!

 

[Turamber]

Re: =)

Originally posted by vermillon


My friend Turamber son of Hourin i don't want to offend you but wasn't you 2h till you respeced to 1h shield?

Err no - I've been sword and shield since I roled my Paladin back in April.

Bit bored of playing a tank at the moment - so have been having fun in Thidranki with my matter cabby. And guess what? When I die I always blame the tanks

 

[vermillon]

Re: Re: =)

Originally posted by Turamber


Err no - I've been sword and shield since I roled my Paladin back in April.

it is your fault i was mistaken you for 2her !!! you was allways possing with that 2h sword of yours heheheh

 

[Taggart]

Keep up the bad work noob alb tanks hehe, im having too much fun killing Wyleia and you smelly English tanks with you fancy armour, i spit in your general direction!

 

[old.Purificator]

Wyleia you should try my acc first..

 

[old.SadonTheGrey]

I can back Wyleia up on this one, many times I've quic-casted my root on a melee'r on me only to have it broken by another Alb. However on the other hand I know that there are a lot of people out there that do it properly, and wait till I'm backup up and ready to administer some nukes before they will engage the target.

 

[nemesisgm]

Maxgirth

But what d you do about us little shadowblades who carry round lots of venoms?

Sorry I haven't been round to Sauvage of late old friend but a few arrogant and impetuous infiltrators in darkness Falls have required my attention and the extentsion of my wrath upon the albs of said dungeon in retaliation but rest assured I shall return in short order.

Look forward to seeing you soon.

Durgi shadowstalker,
First Assassin of the Shadows of Death.

 

[tris-]

Originally posted by Turamber


Always do think Wyleia - and from experience I know that as soon as our casters die they will criticise tanks, whether they charged the enemy casters or stayed to defend the Alb casters. Personally, being shield specced, I will try and defend our casters - but it appears to be a thankless task for the most part.

Agreed, so how about you casters make your minds up before you start saying what is what?

 

[old.linnet]

Originally posted by maxgirth


if you get relative n00b tanks RvRing with ya,tell them that the system works differently in RvR to PvE

I thought that was pretty much all she was trying to do here. I don't think you need to take it personally


Lin

 

[maxgirth]

Re: Maxgirth

Originally posted by nemesisgm
But what d you do about us little shadowblades who carry round lots of venoms?

Sorry I haven't been round to Sauvage of late old friend but a few arrogant and impetuous infiltrators in darkness Falls have required my attention and the extentsion of my wrath upon the albs of said dungeon in retaliation but rest assured I shall return in short order.

Look forward to seeing you soon.

Durgi shadowstalker,
First Assassin of the Shadows of Death.

Die normally,i`ll get ya 1 day I promise.

/salute

 

[maxgirth]

Originally posted by old.linnet


I thought that was pretty much all she was trying to do here. I don't think you need to take it personally


Lin

Telling it to her group in emain/odins before setting forth would be a better time to tell,rather than on here once the horse has bolted methinks.

He who has made no mistakes will nothing ever make.