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Scouse said:
It says "some" - which means some studies are well-designed.

Wonder if the critics are paid by the plastics industry, starting to push back like smoking, food, energy, yadda yadda yadda...
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Looking at the critics' bona fides (Helmholtz Centre, Vrije Amsterdam etc.) it doesn't look like it, which doesn't mean the plastics industry won't be all over this. But to be honest I'd be amazed if there wasn't this level of challenge at such a relatively early phase in the science; this will go back and forward for a long time before there's any kind of consensus, which is as it should be.
 
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TBH - I think my reaction is probably more based around the way they're reporting. Newspaper reporting of science is always sensationalised.

On the plus side, I've started ramping up my consumption of New Scientist again whilst trying to negate what I think is becoming an unhealthy level of news site doomscrolling.
 
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Interesting:

Current filtration technology like granular activated carbon, reverse osmosis or ion exchange absorbs Pfas in water, and the chemicals caught in the filter must be stored in hazardous waste facilities, or destroyed
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I've a 3-stage filter. Nowhere does it say "dispose of as hazardous waste" - everyone will be chucking these in the normal bin.

Why do we allow them to be sold when we haven't sorted our disposal out. Fly tipping, inappropriate disposal. It has to be centralised and paid for by taxation.
 
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How is Brexit paying off if the EU is doing this as well as us ? Or am I misreading ?
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Brexit was sold as "we can do better than Europe - we don't have to stick to their standards, we can have higher standards".

In every single case we've either lowered standards or kept the same. We've never beaten Europe.

  • The sofas you sit on? Full of cancer-causing endocrine-disruptor chemicals that absorb into your body. Banned in Europe.
  • The bees we're killing by the billions with neonecotinids? Still using them under "emergency powers" in the UK. Banned in Europe, 2018. Stopped being used on pollinator crops in 2025 in Blighty but still used elsewhere, with the option to bring 'em back. (And loads of other chems that are banned in EU that we still use).
  • This plastic shit? Sucking the European dick rather than leading the way with what the public actually wants.
 
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Scouse said:
Brexit was sold as "we can do better than Europe - we don't have to stick to their standards, we can have higher standards".

In every single case we've either lowered standards or kept the same. We've never beaten Europe.

  • The sofas you sit on? Full of cancer-causing endocrine-disruptor chemicals that absorb into your body. Banned in Europe.
  • The bees we're killing by the billions with neonecotinids? Still using them under "emergency powers" in the UK. Banned in Europe, 2018. Stopped being used on pollinator crops in 2025 in Blighty but still used elsewhere, with the option to bring 'em back. (And loads of other chems that are banned in EU that we still use).
  • This plastic shit? Sucking the European dick rather than leading the way with what the public actually wants.
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Spose I better stop going outside and make my house airtight as those pesky cars are polluting the air with cancer causing pollutants, oh and all those smokers, oh and all those burning trees, fucking Californians deciding to have massive fires every once in a while, bastards you are causing cancer. You do not burn stuff do you?

The public can want forever but until the entire world agrees on a way forward all our sacrifices are just pissing into the wind, let's assume that 99% of our plastic waste is either recycled or disposed of responsibly, what about the fucking millions of tons of plastic floating in the ocean.
 
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You asked a question, gave you an answer with specific examples of stuff government could do - but isn't.
 
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