Pissed off

[Gamah]

Ok so my boss calls me in to a meeting room last week. She tells me that they are transfering an account to our team and me and another women will be running the account. It is a problem account so they need the best people on it blah blah management bollocks.

So anyway I look forward to being involved on the project of transfering the client to our team. I come in this week and think everythings cool, I assume i'll be included in any info about the new client.

However I have been excluded from every meeting about this new client, I have had hardly any new information apart from what I have tried to find out myself and genrally I am thinking well wtf? Should I even bother to try to get any information?

I am generally bored with my job, there is no challenge I can do all my work in half a day and thats why I post here for the rest of it. I cant wait to start my open uni degree in computer science just so I can challenge the old noggin' again.

So I am pretty fucked off about the whole thing, am I right for being so?

 

[eggy]

Hard to say, don't know what line of business your company is in.

In the past, I've often been kept slightly out of the loop until the deal goes through; then suddenly I'm bombarded with bid documents, project briefs and expected to produce an analysis and reports on a client I haven't even met!

That's management for you...

I can't see computer science being a challenge for your 'noggin' by the way, if you're remotely computer literate.

 

[pip]

Well lets face your still a kid ? what like early 20s no offence but head down get will it

 

[old.Tohtori]

You don't have to work and sit in boring meetings that are basicly suitmen talking crap across the table like so:

Suit1: Crap.
Suit2: More crap.
Suit1: Argue about more crap.
Suit2: Crap crap crap.
Suit1: Coffee maybe?
You: *blow brains out*

Stop whining and enjoy your leisure time

 

[Gamah]

Hard to say, don't know what line of business your company is in.

In the past, I've often been kept slightly out of the loop until the deal goes through; then suddenly I'm bombarded with bid documents, project briefs and expected to produce an analysis and reports on a client I haven't even met!

That's management for you...

I can't see computer science being a challenge for your 'noggin' by the way, if you're remotely computer literate.

We manage fleet vehicles for companies, my team deals with those clients that have over 1000 vehicles.

This was the course I was looking at: http://www3.open.ac.uk/courses/bin/p12.dll?Q01B29 (i know the first year will be a piss walk)

Taking the Java/web route then self learning about 6 different other languages including C++, XML, ASP, PHP, etc.

If you have any other suggestions though on a better degree to take, please share them.

 

[Chronictank]

if they do Perl as a optional add-on, do it.
Every department/organisation i have visited has some sort of legacy perl script running somewhere so its well worth being at least a little bit familiar with it.

Really depends what you want to do, if your more interested in the networks side of things it may be worthwhile if you go for a Cisco course (they are pretty expensive tho). If you dont care look in the job adds to see what's in demand and tailor your skills to it

Edit: Eggy; depends if you choose the easiest modules possible or you go for something that will give you career progression, i personally didnt have much choice in my degree (University of Westminster) as i'm doing it part-time too, but my module is very database heavy.

 

[Jeremiah]

I can't see computer science being a challenge for your 'noggin' by the way, if you're remotely computer literate.

I just graduated last year with my Honours in Comp Science The 4th year was challenging! I mean, even if you are computer literate, can you imediatley know how the inners of a compiler work and then build your own? Thats what we had to do!

(The first 3 years were a breeze tho Although, I couldnt understand SSADM )

 

[Svartmetall]

So I am pretty fucked off about the whole thing, am I right for being so?

Yes, I think so. I'm increasingly of the opinion that being happy in your job is almost certainly the most important thing about it. Money's no use if you're miserable.

 

[Bracken]

However I have been excluded from every meeting about this new client, I have had hardly any new information apart from what I have tried to find out myself

Ask them directly why you're not involved in the meetings. You have to be prepared to challenge people - just make sure you're clear about the issue you're dealing with and don't turn it into some kind of general rant.

 

[Job]

I work for BT (work as in 'turn up') and have been to more meetings that you've had hot or cold dinners, and I can safely say that not ONE thing I've ever discussed has been implemented, you could actually use the minutes for every meeting in BT as a list of what's NOT going to happen.

Everything that DOES happen is sorted out by the workers themselves afterwards, the management are totally frekin useless.

Just get your head down, smile, show enthusiasm and you too can end up on 50 grand a year without contributing in the slightess to the companies fortunes.

Sorted.

 

[Lamp]

I've found that you can't buck the system. You just gotta play along and create as much opportunity and good PR for yourself as possible. If you're not enjoying your job, look for a new one. Better to leave of your own free will than to be fired for underperformance.

 

[Forfid]

However I have been excluded from every meeting about this new client, I have had hardly any new information apart from what I have tried to find out myself and genrally I am thinking well wtf? Should I even bother to try to get any information?

join the club.
Well the thing is like this: usualy the director meets with client define the contract and then the boss tells you what to do.
If there is a lack of information about the requirements of your job that's a problem with the coordinator (your boss). ask him directly that you are worried, not worried, aprehensive about the job that needs to be done and you need more info. Usualy that should work. Or you can sit back and then when the deadline aproches it will be all your fault, you'll get burned

(my work isn't in computers but in railway enginering but the principals are the same for any company)

 

[Ati]

Get a C compiler and a online tutorial. Post less on FH and fiddle with programs more. Teaching yourself C in this wasted time while your waiting for your course will benefit you in the long run. Coding is a hobby for loads of people at work around the country (www.download.com will give you some free compilers.)

If you want my opinion sometimes its more important what you get from the job, be it something nice for your CV, a free qualification or a fantastic pay packet so you can save for property etc. Decide if this job is benefiting you in those ways, if not then maybe you need another. If it is, stick with it until you have drained what you need.


All jobs will pay, some pay in experience and qualifications that you can use to get more pay. Doing a OU course is a good way to gain more skills from home aswell as learning from job.

hope that was useful. Just some advice I was given, may aswell hand it on!

 

[Aiteal]

We manage fleet vehicles for companies, my team deals with those clients that have over 1000 vehicles.

This was the course I was looking at: http://www3.open.ac.uk/courses/bin/p12.dll?Q01B29 (i know the first year will be a piss walk)

Taking the Java/web route then self learning about 6 different other languages including C++, XML, ASP, PHP, etc.

If you have any other suggestions though on a better degree to take, please share them.

Did my computer training with the OU
Dropped outta uni after 2 1/2 years of chemisty/bio-chemistry then ended up as a barman for 5 years before and old GF told me to get a proper job or be dumped.

Java/XML and a lil bit of Oracle experience and you'll never want for a job.

 

[Belomar]

I can't see computer science being a challenge for your 'noggin' by the way, if you're remotely computer literate.

That depends what you mean by "computer science"; sounds to me like your definition (or your university's definition, for all I know) is a little limited.

 

[cHodAX]

Pissed off eh? Gamah must be on the blob again

But seriously, don't let them sideline you bud. If you need to be in those meetings to do your job properly then make it known that you want to be there. Don't take shit and let them marginalise you because if the project goes tits up you can bet that the bastards will be trying to shovel the shit into your corner.

 

[Dandare]

Pissed off eh? Gamah must be on the blob again

But seriously, don't let them sideline you bud. If you need to be in those meetings to do your job properly then make it known that you want to be there. Don't take shit and let them marginalise you because if the project goes tits up you can bet that the bastards will be trying to shovel the shit into your corner.

Very true, either put your input into the project or you can't really say much if it all goes wrong and you will be the first to be used as a scapegoat.

Personally I can't stand meetings at my work, we are asked to join in future projects, plant modifcations, pilot plants.
Me and a fellow college go to these extremley long and boring meetings which always get ajjorned to another day and all the advice/input we give is never ever used and we sit back and watch them fuck it all up.
Luckily I'm not in a position to take the flak for it so we laugh our heads off most of the time