Pierce NS Template help!

Mckennitt

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Its been in my mind for a few days now so im asking if any of you l337 grey con killers have a decent pierce NS template.
Before u even start making it just read the following advice:

I need Gov/golden spear/croc tooth/som / golm in it and if possible ml10 legs.
I dont require any uber umbah NS template just a decent to run with. Nor i want any smart comments about pierce spec or choice of the items i want in it. Give all your templates to m3!

Mck
 

Fuaip

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looking forward to see a temp with that combination of items :)
 

Ballard

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If you know you want all those items shouldnt be to hard to put them in korts, add some high util jewelery and SC :p
 

Nosufer

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I'm looking for any good pierce or blade NS temps, most i have seen are pretty poor.
 

Frozodo

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im currently working on doing a template for me shade but the problem i keep having is that i min want 90 dex/str, 100 con 400hp 45quick and 50AF if possible so i aint making it easy :\ for myself but i keep playing around with it
 

Ivynoxia

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Frozodo said:
90 dex/str, 100 con 400hp 45quick and 50AF
how about...
85 dex/str 100 con 396 hp 42 quick and 25 AF?

That was the best I managed for pierce
 

Ivynoxia

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Sure, i've made it using Golden Spear main and pierce champ weap for offhand (you can also swap to a heat/cold legendary weapon with a boots change, SC for those boots is listed in the ranged slot, it's optional - just in case you fight something almost immune to physical damage.)

And artifacts used: Guard of Valor, Shades of Mist, Ring of Dances, Eerie Darkness Lighting Stone

  • Stats
    Str: 85
    Con: 101
    Dex: 79
    Qui: 43
    Hits: 396

    Resists:
    Body: 15 Energy: 8 Crush: 26
    Cold: 17 Matter: 11 Thrust: 26
    Heat: 26 Spirit: 19 Slash: 26

    Skills
    11 Piercing
    11 Critical Strike
    11 Stealth
    4 Celtic Dual
    3 Envenom
    Requires swap with +8 envenom gloves for poisoning weapons.

    Cap Increases
    11 Dexterity
    10 Strength
    26 Constitution
    200 Hits

    TOA bonuses:
    8 Melee Damage
    10 Style Damage
    10 Melee Combat Speed
    26 AF
    4 Fatigue

Cold is a bit high and Body resists is a bit crap but it's a sacrifice I had to make to make it a 1 swap temp, you can always drop 3 envenom and put that into Body, if u can live with 2 swap for envenom. I was quite happy with this template but I made another temp that uses Energy damage and wanted to play around with that :) used energy to get from rr6 -> rr8, worked suprisingly well on a lot of targets hehe. Since rr8 tho I've gone blades Zzzz

Piece Listing
Chest
Name: Guard of Valor [Nerfed]
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: 102 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 4: 4 Style Damage
Effect 5: 15 Dexterity
Effect 6: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Name: Tempered Lightning Etched Leather Sleeves
Level: 51 Quality: 100
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Critical Strike
Effect 2: 18 Strength
Effect 3: 48 Hits
Effect 4: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 5: 72 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 44.00

Head
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Critical Strike - 99 Flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Gem 2: 3 Piercing - 99 Rough Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 3: 25 Constitution - 99 Flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 4: 60 Hits - 99 Precious Blood Essence
Utility: 66.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Piercing - 99 Flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 3 Envenom - 99 Rough Dusty Battle Jewel
Gem 3: 7 Heat - 99 Imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 76 Hits - 99 Perfect Blood Essence
Utility: 68.00

Hands
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 4 Piercing - 99 Flawed Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 2: 7 Heat - 99 Imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 3: 28 Quickness - 99 Perfect Airy Essence
Gem 4: 3 Critical Strike - 99 Rough Heated Battle Jewel
Utility: 67.67

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Dexterity - 99 Perfect Vapor Essence
Gem 2: 7 Heat - 99 Imperfect Heated Shielding
Gem 3: 3 Energy - 99 Rough Light Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Stealth - 99 Imperfect Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 63.67

Right Hand
Name: Golden Spear
Level: 51 Quality: 100
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 12 Strength
Effect 2: 12 Dexterity
Effect 3: 7 Crush
Effect 4: 7 Slash
Effect 5: 7 Thrust
Effect 6: 4 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage
Utility: 58.00

Left Hand
Name: Dochar Nightshade Steel
Level: 51 Quality: 00
DPS: 16.5 Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 4 Celtic Dual
Effect 2: 7 Strength
Effect 3: 9 Dexterity
Effect 4: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 5: 4 Style Damage
Effect 6: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 7: 6 Dexterity Cap Increase
Utility: 30.67

Ranged [ Heat/cold leggie boots ]
Imbue Points: 36.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 58%
Gem 1: 5 Slash - 99 Flawed Watery Shielding
Gem 2: 7 Crush - 99 Imperfect Fiery Shielding
Gem 3: 7 Thrust - 99 Imperfect Airy Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Stealth - 99 Imperfect Airy Battle Jewel
Utility: 63.00

Neck
Name: Paidrean Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Body
Effect 2: 10 Crush
Effect 3: 10 Spirit
Effect 4: 10 Thrust
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mists
Level: 51 Quality: 99
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 4 Fatigue
Effect 5: 10 AF
Effect 6: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Eerie Darkness Stone (1.81)
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 5 Heat
Effect 2: 5 Matter
Effect 3: 4 Crush
Effect 4: 5 Cold
Effect 5: 5 Body
Effect 6: 4 Slash
Effect 7: 5 Energy
Effect 8: 5 Spirit
Effect 9: 4 Thrust
Utility: 84.00

Belt
Name: Malevolent Darkspire Tempered Belt
Level: 42 Quality: 100
Bonus: 30
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Thrust
Effect 3: 6 Matter
Effect 4: 44 Hits
Effect 5: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 6 AF
Effect 7: 80 Unique Effect...
Utility: 47.00

Right Ring
Name: Ring of Moirai
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 24 Constitution
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 4 Spirit
Effect 4: 8 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 5: 64 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 34.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring of Dances (1.81)
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Dexterity
Effect 4: 5 Crush
Effect 5: 5 Slash
Effect 6: 10 AF
Utility: 55.00

Right Wrist
Name: Malevolent Darkspire Tempered Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Slash
Effect 3: 6 Cold
Effect 4: 44 Hits
Effect 5: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 47.00

Left Wrist
Name: Malevolent Darkspire Tempered Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 6 Slash
Effect 3: 6 Cold
Effect 4: 44 Hits
Effect 5: 6 Constitution Cap Increase
Effect 6: 32 Hits Cap Increase
Utility: 47.00
Edit: Most of the DS tempered items used are available and cheap on the ME. Ring of Moirai is a bit trickier to find cheaply
 

Ballard

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Tried to make it strictly to your requirements with only cheap items (I never make expensive templates :) so no malamis belt or anything like that). On the plus side it is very cheap but i cant say its great. as their are some major weaknesses (two swap items and uncapped pierce). probably need to look at being a bit more flexible with your requirements or forking out for some expensive items to get a good temp. The resists are quite good tho and damage output should be good.

Config Report

Stats

Str: 102 Int: 0 Hits: 304
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 94 Cha: 0
Qui: 50 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 20 Energy: 10 Crush: 26
Cold: 23 Matter: 16 Thrust: 24 (3)
Heat: 21 Spirit: 21 (5) Slash: 25 (2)

Skills

11 Stealth
11 Critical Strike
7 Piercing
2 Blades

Focus

Cap Increases

20 Dexterity
160 Hits
21 Strength

Other Bonuses

10 Melee Damage
3 Stat Debuff Effectiveness
34 AF
10 Style Damage
11 Melee Combat Speed

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: GOV
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Strength
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 4 Style Damage
Effect 6: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 7: 40 Hits
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Name: Foppish nightshade
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Strength
Effect 2: 5 Crush
Effect 3: 5 Heat
Effect 4: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 5: 15 Dexterity
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: 40 Hits
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 50.00

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 22 Constitution - 99 Precious Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 7 Dexterity - 99 Rough Vapor Essence
Gem 3: 5 Piercing - 99 Imperfect Dusty War Spell Stone
Gem 4: 4 Critical Strike - 99 Flawed Heated Battle Jewel
Utility: 64.33

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 25 Constitution - 99 Flawless Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 25 Quickness - 99 Flawless Airy Essence
Gem 3: 5 Stealth - 99 Imperfect Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 1 Critical Strike - 99 Raw Heated Battle Jewel
Utility: 63.33

Hands
Name: Gloomwalker gloves
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Constitution
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 6 Matter
Effect 4: 6 Spirit
Effect 5: 5 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 46.00

Feet
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 10 Quickness - 99 Flawed Airy Essence
Gem 2: 5 Cold - 99 Flawed Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 3 Stealth - 99 Rough Airy Battle Jewel
Gem 4: 6 Critical Strike - 99 Polished Heated Battle Jewel
Utility: 61.67

Right Hand
Name: Golden spear
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 4 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 2: 12 Strength
Effect 3: 12 Dexterity
Effect 4: 7 Crush
Effect 5: 7 Slash
Effect 6: 7 Thrust
Effect 7: 4 Style Damage
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 58.00

Left Hand
Name: Croc tooth dagger
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 27 Strength
Effect 2: 27 Dexterity
Effect 3: 2 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 4: 3 Stat Debuff Effectiveness
Effect 5: 4 Melee Damage
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 36.00

Neck
Name: Paidrean necklace
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Thrust
Effect 2: 10 Crush
Effect 3: 10 Spirit
Effect 4: 10 Body
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Shades of Mist (NS)
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 3 Stealth
Effect 2: 15 Strength
Effect 3: 15 Quickness
Effect 4: 10 AF
Effect 5: 5 Melee Combat Speed
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 35.00

Jewel
Name: Gem of lost memories Tank
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 10 Constitution
Effect 2: 24 Hits
Effect 3: 4 Matter
Effect 4: 4 Body
Effect 5: 2 All Melee Weapon Skills
Effect 6: 2 Style Damage
Effect 7: 2 Melee Damage
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 38.67

Belt
Name: Oglidarsh's Belt
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Strength Cap Increase
Effect 2: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 3: 15 Strength
Effect 4: 40 Hits
Effect 5: 4 Crush
Effect 6: 4 Slash
Effect 7: 4 Thrust
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 44.00

Right Ring
Name: Co5 ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 5 Heat
Effect 4: 5 Energy
Effect 5: 12 AF
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 42.00

Left Ring
Name: Co5 Ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 40 Hits
Effect 2: 6 Cold
Effect 3: 5 Heat
Effect 4: 5 Energy
Effect 5: 12 AF
Effect 6: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 42.00

Right Wrist
Name: ebonhide bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Cold
Effect 2: 6 Body
Effect 3: 6 Heat
Effect 4: 6 Slash
Effect 5: 6 Matter
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracer (Dex)
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Slash
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00
 

Ivynoxia

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yeah that's not too bad considering we had to use those items :p

I had something awful earlier in my attempts..
 

Ivynoxia

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hehe, style is 10% max anyhow so no biggie..
bah, u got me fiddling about with korts at 2 in the morning now, nerf
 

Reza

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With gov,ctd, and golm you have your basis for toa melee and style bonuses sorted without a mainhand. Its kinda the basic pierce no mainhand staple artis (although id use ml10 off instead of ctd probably). Anyway so you should consider a 12 dex mainhand temp.

Then with SoM you have nice /use and just need to consider rod for 1 more SL.

Then after that your entire temp should revolve around 1st working out where you get your last 3% melee speed (7 from som + ctd), ie can you afford something like levi deep ring or do u need 2 * 2% bonus from a belt and bracer. 2ndly see how much +str,+dex and +hits cap you can get while still using decent util items (maybe try and fit some of the ok util new epic armor).

How many items you want for envenom swapping, how hi you value +CD skill and your resist prioritising need also to worked out.
 

Mckennitt

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Keep it going - so far ive beaten all the templates ;p With a slight improved version than the one ive send to Ivy.

(Its not that i cant afford the levi ring or whatsoevah, but more likely that i cant be bothered as im making 6x templates atm and i would rather be thankfull to finish em soon instead of some years.)

Cheers for the posts so far!

Mck
 

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