Petrol price where you are?

Teren

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Here, in Estonia, normal unleaded is 0.9-1.05 eur. But that's insanely expensive - wages are crap, i.e. a teacher gets 350eur/month
 

Bodhi

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99.9 in Stone. Still a fucking rip off tho.
 

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It's just the natural product of something running out in the market. As the prices rise more and more it will make more and more people consider buying more fuel economic alternatives to what they already have, such as Turamber getting a more fuel economic car.

The governments high taxes on petrol at times like this aren't necesarrily bad either. Because a larger portion of the UK's petrol prices are tax when oil prices rise like this we feel it less than countries with lower taxes on petrol like the US. Think of having 38 cent increases rather than 1.3 pence increases. It may effect the US more closely anyway because of Hurricane Katrina actually being there, but that won't nearly account for such huge differences.

rynnor said:
Long before the oil runs out we'll have gone over to massive use of Nuclear power stations and will end up driving electric cars.

Despite its many detractors and the very real problems with nuclear power it has the advantage that there is no shortage of it - its far more energy effecient than any other form of power generation.

Anyone who believes wind power is the wave of the future is on drugs...

Natural ways of producing power are one of the many good ways to move forward to the future. There's also wave power, solar power and has already been mentioned, nuclear power. Nuclear power has the disadvantage of nuclear waste, while the natural methods have the problem of not working if the weather's not right, though with enough different methods being used it shouldn't be as much of a problem.

One method I'm interested in is using oil seed rape to power things. I'm not sure exactly how it'd work though. Someone got some research on it in my Economics AS class though. It's renewable and the pollution it would cause when it's being used would be cancelled by when it's growing.

There's also biogas that's being used in Sweden already. There's also gas electric hybrids along with electric cars. Of course this won't help much if all electric power is still created by burning fossil fuels. It's also worth pointing out that gas cars aren't allowed to go through the euro tunnel as they may explode.

We may be a little bit in the shits, but with rising prices of fossil fuels eventually meaning everyday people won't be able to afford them, people are going to be more and more willing to invest in alternative fuels as the savings made afterwards will be beneficial in money terms as well as just to the environment.

Those who think that nuclear power is the only way forward are obviously not thinking enough. Our reliance on petrol, diesel, coal and other fossil fuels was the reason that we ended up in this situation in the first place. What would happen when we ran out of safe places to dump the nuclear waste on earth? Would we launch it into space? That would be very expensive and not entirely practical solution. Don't put all your eggs into one basket.
 

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I've started a company called EnviroMission Limited, bought some cheap land in Autralia and knocked up a rendering of what this bugger will look like, see hear.

Apologies for crappy music, I haven't found a proper composer yet.
 

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Summo said:
I've started a company called EnviroMission Limited, bought some cheap land in Autralia and knocked up a rendering of what this bugger will look like, see hear.

Apologies for crappy music, I haven't found a proper composer yet.


Hmm - pretty ugly - and I cant see it being very energy effecient - you lose a lot of energy turning the turbine - if you have to build a 200' chimney to power 1 lightbulb it may be a little impractical...

Why not just have a large array of solar panels - they are getting extremely effecient and generate a surprising amount of power - plus its an area that gets a lot of research so they get better all the time.

Edit - In fact the solar chimney is a lot less effecient than Geo-thermal energy - in a cold country like the UK you could generate more power than a chimney using the difference in temperature of levels below the ground compared to air temp - bigger temp diff = more energy.
 

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Furr said:
We can bury the nuclear waste in Iraq

Middle of the sahara sounds good or the bottom of old gold mines (those things are seriously deep!).
 

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rynnor said:
Middle of the sahara sounds good or the bottom of old gold mines (those things are seriously deep!).

I've had an even better idea. We could just dump it all on Birmingham. It wouldn't make the place look much worse, it'd probably knock some sense into the natives (I'm sorry but that accent has to be a genetic mutation) and would give the rest of us another reason not to go there.
 

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Nah, send it to Scotland. Most of the place is devoid of human life and the cities are devoid of intelligent life. Plus, if the premise of various superhero films is to be believed, they may mutate into a more powerful form - a race that has at least half-a-clue how to play football and cricket.
 

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Turamber said:
Nah, send it to Scotland. Most of the place is devoid of human life and the cities are devoid of intelligent life. Plus, if the premise of various superhero films is to be believed, they may mutate into a more powerful form - a race that has at least half-a-clue how to play football and cricket.

Most predictable reply evah!


P.S. Are you really in a position to comment on another nation's inability to play football after your lot's performance in Belfast on Wednesday night?
 

.Wilier.

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Its 97.9 in Scunny atm for unleaded.

I find Im kind of tied on the argument due to the fact that the shares (of which it is buy one, get one free for employee's) for Big American Oil company I work for are shooting through the roof.
;)
 

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Just been to london and back, Why are there huge queues forming at petrol stations...
 

Furr

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nuts... righty off to the petrol station for a fill up, got lots of driving to get through and not up for running out!
 

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The petrol stations around here are putting up 'sold out' signs too. All of which helps to put up the price of course.
 

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Got a trackday type thing booked for tomorrow, no petrol stations round here have any fuel anymore because of the ***** panic buying.

There's 170quid I'm not going to see again :(
 

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Alliandre said:
Those who think that nuclear power is the only way forward are obviously not thinking enough. Our reliance on petrol, diesel, coal and other fossil fuels was the reason that we ended up in this situation in the first place. What would happen when we ran out of safe places to dump the nuclear waste on earth? Would we launch it into space? That would be very expensive and not entirely practical solution. Don't put all your eggs into one basket.
It's not the only way forward, but it is the only short-term solution. Nuclear is the only non-fossil fuel power source we could start building right now with enough capacity to serve in place of fossil fuels. It's going to take years of reasearch before the other sources can provide enough energy to be a real alternative sadly.
 

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Our local petrol station is out of order cause someone spilt petrol everywhere... such chaos :D
 

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Have just come back from the motorway service station which is 5 minutes drive from my house. Every pump has a queue 4-5 cars deep for petrol. May try again at 3am, I genuinely don't have much fuel in the car - but most of the people are just in a panic.
 

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Gumbo said:
Got a trackday type thing booked for tomorrow, no petrol stations round here have any fuel anymore because of the ***** panic buying.

There's 170quid I'm not going to see again :(

Are you with the AA/RAC? If you run out, they might recover you.
 

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$2.89 a gallon here in Maine - now my question is: what is your average fuel consumption/miles per gallon?

I get about 35mpg out of my Forester on the highway - a little less in town.

Considering there is no public transportation available here (aside from the downton slum busses that cart people to the mall...) - ie it's impossible to find alternatives - and also considering that I am living out in the boonies (40ish miles to and from work) it does hurt the wallet a little bit.

I see tons of people selling their v8 trucks for cheap... *sighs*
And I put money aside to buy a Dodge Ram next year. *cries*
It's not going to happen... probably gonna switch to the Honda hybrid car that looks like ass.


*cries a little more*
 

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Uncle Sick said:
probably gonna switch to the Honda hybrid car that looks like ass.

*points*



*laughs*



*laughs some more*



*fluffles*

;)
 

GDW

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98.4p per gallon here in Belfast. At the moment the only people queuing at the garages are a load of rioters filling up bottles for their petrol bombs ;)
 

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*ring ring*
"hello?"
"hi boss it's me, Yuck"
"hello"
"I'm working from home for the next few days, my car is out of gas and I can't get any locally"
"OK thats fair enough"

Win!
 

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It's just the natural product of something running out in the market. As the prices rise more and more it will make more and more people consider buying more fuel economic alternatives to what they already have, such as Turamber getting a more fuel economic car.

ah... but what if they cant get more fuel out of the ground? then we abit fucked really? :p

edit: oh yeah, back on topic, clarkson is a complete twat with the stupidest way of writing reviews for cars (read one for a bentley, "this car is complete rubbish etc etc etc BUT I LOVE IT i mean wtf? :p )
 

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