Petition about savage growth rate.

[prozze]

LOL, coming from a BM come on please... BM is major FOTM, if more ppl played hib they would all be BMs, u guys hit harder than savages, if anything, nerf you.


Savages are nerfed enough, plus VW's get self haste, so do friars, does that mean they need a nerf too?

If you guys have played a savage post nerf, u will see the self buffs arent worth using, take way too much health, lasts 15s *wow*, savage is basically a light tank where u have to think twice whether to use something u spec upto 40+ for.

Haha. I'm one of the bms atm that people ask what to spec ^^
And what artifacts to get, and also theres only 2 bms active on excal in a setgroup, how many savages is there?

 

[Tinyheals]

LOL, coming from a BM come on please... BM is major FOTM, if more ppl played hib they would all be BMs, u guys hit harder than savages, if anything, nerf you.


Savages are nerfed enough, plus VW's get self haste, so do friars, does that mean they need a nerf too?

If you guys have played a savage post nerf, u will see the self buffs arent worth using, take way too much health, lasts 15s *wow*, savage is basically a light tank where u have to think twice whether to use something u spec upto 40+ for.

xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

 

[bult]

Phixion is well known for beeing quite clueless. He also have a bad case of "the grass is always greener on the other side" syndrome.

 

[Alme]

LOL, coming from a BM come on please... BM is major FOTM, if more ppl played hib they would all be BMs, u guys hit harder than savages, if anything, nerf you.


Savages are nerfed enough, plus VW's get self haste, so do friars, does that mean they need a nerf too?

If you guys have played a savage post nerf, u will see the self buffs arent worth using, take way too much health, lasts 15s *wow*, savage is basically a light tank where u have to think twice whether to use something u spec upto 40+ for.

ha ha ha ?

 

[Alme]

yes on 1 target each hit

dont really understand what ure talking about. but if ure saying their pb is OP ill cry irl

 

[Aussie]

show me a duel movie from a class winning from a savage before you start defending it.equal RR & No RAs.

 

[Tinyheals]

show me a duel movie from a class winning from a savage before you start defending it.equal RR & No RAs.

Merc with DT mayhap mayhap

 

[Phixion]

show me a duel movie from a class winning from a savage before you start defending it.equal RR & No RAs.

Aye aussie, show me a duel movie where savage pwns bm same ras everything, then i may change my mind

bult, u actually play the game? last i remember u just sat in irc all day ebay.com etc

edit: last time i ported to emain i saw 1? savage, there arent many about nowadays tbh

edit2: prozze one main reason for people not playing BMs is hib, very underpopulated, not many random groups to run in.

 

[Belomar]

yes on 1 target each hit

What's your problem, doesn't Midgard have SMs?

 

[Konah]

wouldn't say savage was overpowered in a 1v1, not vs a merc anyway.

its in fg gank grp rvr where they can abuse that 'oh-so-balanced' insta rear stun or that NINE second side stun chain... while being healed from 4 seers.. so hp loss an irrelevance.

the class is still VERY broken

 

[Phixion]

wouldn't say savage was overpowered in a 1v1, not vs a merc anyway.

its in fg gank grp rvr where they can abuse that 'oh-so-balanced' insta rear stun or that NINE second side stun chain... while being healed from 4 seers.. so hp loss an irrelevance.

the class is still VERY broken

Agreed, put them in a group together with all asissting and they are great, but then so are BMs and Mercs, 1on1 merc vs savage, merc uses DT, savage gets owned...

 

[Belomar]

Savages are nerfed enough, plus VW's get self haste, so do friars, does that mean they need a nerf too?

If you guys have played a savage post nerf, u will see the self buffs arent worth using, take way too much health, lasts 15s *wow*, savage is basically a light tank where u have to think twice whether to use something u spec upto 40+ for.

Sigh. Why is it always the rerollers who shout the hardest when it comes to defending their new realm? Perhaps you should listen to people who have actual experience in playing the class, instead of just flaming against it on principle? Zzang and Mumin, both to be regarded as reasonably experienced people, agree with this, yet you will most definitely defend your little castle of sand to your last breath.

 

[[NO]Subedai]

getting hit for 900 dmg as a chain class by decent savages (the ones that run in non noob grps) is rediculous. and then to find out ur stunned just takes the piss.
its the insane dmg coupled with good stun styles that make this class a joke.
why a class like the reaver shuld not have det and do less dmg is beyond me.
mythic have fucked it up big time with the savage.

 

[Brynn]

show me a duel movie from a class winning from a savage before you start defending it.equal RR & No RAs.

My skald can absolutly obliterate skalds - duelled one, i lost about 30% hit points in total.

its easy - DD, DD , mezz - round the back, damage chant , ragnarok, then just kill it really.

 

[Zzang]

show me a duel movie from a class winning from a savage before you start defending it.equal RR & No RAs.

i beat Mumin x-D

 

[Phixion]

Sigh. Why is it always the rerollers who shout the hardest when it comes to defending their new realm? Perhaps you should listen to people who have actual experience in playing the class, instead of just flaming against it on principle? Zzang and Mumin, both to be regarded as reasonably experienced people, agree with this, yet you will most definitely defend your little castle of sand to your last breath.

Maybe cos ive played one?

 

[Phixion]

getting hit for 900 dmg as a chain class by decent savages (the ones that run in non noob grps) is rediculous. and then to find out ur stunned just takes the piss.
its the insane dmg coupled with good stun styles that make this class a joke.
why a class like the reaver shuld not have det and do less dmg is beyond me.
mythic have fucked it up big time with the savage.

Same as infils have 9s stun and sbs dont, same as minstrels have stealth/insta stun/ablative chant and skalds dont, if u base your theory on stuff like that matey, there is alot we could say about alb classes.

 

[Alme]

Same as infils have 9s stun and sbs dont, same as minstrels have stealth/insta stun/ablative chant and skalds dont, if u base your theory on stuff like that matey, there is alot we could say about alb classes.

aye that 9s stun is leathal shit in fg vs fg. pac healers doesnt have insta stun either i heard (deffo not ae) and really, stealth on mincers is really the biggest prob in the world.

 

[UriZeN]

getting hit for 900 dmg as a chain class by decent savages (the ones that run in non noob grps) is rediculous. and then to find out ur stunned just takes the piss.
its the insane dmg coupled with good stun styles that make this class a joke.
why a class like the reaver shuld not have det and do less dmg is beyond me.
mythic have fucked it up big time with the savage.

2h pa+cd=very high damage and stun!!

nerf sbs too then!!!
on second thought learn how to deal with it for a change

 

[Belomar]

Maybe cos ive played one?

I said actual experience. I sincerely doubt your Savage is higher-RR than Mumin, and he agreed with this issue.

 

[Phixion]

I said actual experience. I sincerely doubt your Savage is higher-RR than Mumin, and he agreed with this issue.

No it isn't RR10, i do have other things to do that sit playing games all day, I have read posts tho where BMs are said to be the best dual wield class before the special e.g. zerker mode/dt etc

 

[rvn]

i beat Mumin x-D

who doesnt?

 

[Tinyheals]

who doesnt?

i solo him with my healer

 

[swords]

2h pa+cd=very high damage and stun!!

nerf sbs too then!!!
on second thought learn how to deal with it for a change

2H PA will never come to the same dmg as a savage can do...also would like to point out those hits are most likely at or close to the melle speed cap.

 

[rvn]

No it isn't RR10, i do have other things to do that sit playing games all day, I have read posts tho where BMs are said to be the best dual wield class before the special e.g. zerker mode/dt etc

just give up the bullshit.

Atm savages are WAY ahead of any other light tank, just like prenerf zerkers used to be.

one of the problems with nerfing however, is that the us midgar players suck so extremely hard so they need "overpowred" classes to even be able to compete with other realms (this is the image ive build up after playing mlf and percival/guinevere a bit.

signed the petition, however it will probably have 0 effect, since us servers are quite different than eu.

 

[Phixion]

just give up the bullshit.

Atm savages are WAY ahead of any other light tank, just like prenerf zerkers used to be.

one of the problems with nerfing however, is that the us midgar players suck so extremely hard so they need "overpowred" classes to even be able to compete with other realms (this is the image ive build up after playing mlf and percival/guinevere a bit.

signed the petition, however it will probably have 0 effect, since us servers are quite different than eu.

What bullshit? like spamming DS on other groups pets? xD

 

[bult]

Agreed, put them in a group together with all asissting and they are great, but then so are BMs and Mercs, 1on1 merc vs savage, merc uses DT, savage gets owned...

I do play quite many hours a day actually, and ebay.com? i have never bought a char ever ;> all my current chars i have exped from lvl 1 rr0 so ;o Im guessing you are just bitter because im still playing in alb but you couldnt take the pressure so you rolled a savage.

Anyway who the hell cares about duels, thats not how the game should be balanced as it is the least common playstyle of all. Group vs Group or Zerg vs Zerg is how it should be balanced and in that department savage IS alot better then BM/Merc and they DO alot more damage. Simple as.

 

[Phixion]

I do play quite many hours a day actually, and ebay.com? i have never bought a char ever ;> all my current chars i have exped from lvl 1 rr0 so ;o Im guessing you are just bitter because im still playing in alb but you couldnt take the pressure so you rolled a savage.

Anyway who the hell cares about duels, thats not how the game should be balanced as it is the least common playstyle of all. Group vs Group or Zerg vs Zerg is how it should be balanced and in that department savage IS alot better then BM/Merc and they DO alot more damage. Simple as.

nice argument, but wrong, i play an sm, not a savage, and yes you are ebay.com, dont try and deny it, damn i wish i kept logs :>

 

[bult]

nice argument, but wrong, i play an sm, not a savage, and yes you are ebay.com, dont try and deny it, damn i wish i kept logs :>

I am wrong? You didnt roll a savage?? thats a lie and you know it. You might play a SM right now but you still rolled a savage.

About the whole ebay.com thing i have probably exped alot more chars to 50 then you so just give it a rest ;> and i still have never payed for a char in my life. I did trade tho but that was ages ago and i never played the char that i traded for.

 

[UriZeN]

2H PA will never come to the same dmg as a savage can do...also would like to point out those hits are most likely at or close to the melle speed cap.

i have a screenie with 1440 total damage (980pa+460crit) with mop3 on a chain user
regarding melle spd i agree with u but still the char can be dealt with