Petition about savage growth rate.

[prozze]

http://www.petitiononline.com/prozze/petition.html

The link says it all.

 

[fotm]

g3t some sk1lls instead noob

 

[Calo]

we dont make petitions about chanters do we ?

go cry some more cause this is total bullshit

 

[prozze]

I'm not looking for a fight, I just want the game to be fair to everyone, they could give BM the growth rate tho, I dont care, just think it would be better to balance down then up.

 

[Alme]

we dont make petitions about chanters do we ?

go cry some more cause this is total bullshit

chanters got nerfed, and even if they didnt, they got crap hp and shitty defence atleast. and really, wtf is so omg wtf pwn about a chanter ? they do less dmg than a svg anyway

 

[Zzang]

give prenerf zerk growth rates.xDD

Hider

 

[vintervargen]

give wardens insta pb disease and cure mez okithanksBBQ

 

[emma]

http://www.petitiononline.com/prozze/petition.html

The link says it all.

For a start there not the highest growth rates. Schythe and Flex are actually higher on most styles, and the only reason a savave will hit you hard is due to either them having relics or not using there haste buffs, low quickness.

A H2H savage with capped quickness, self haste and 10% melee speed will not hit for insane ammounts of damage with there styles. double and triple hits.. now thats a different thing all togeather.

 

[emma]

chanters got nerfed, and even if they didnt, they got crap hp and shitty defence atleast. and really, wtf is so omg wtf pwn about a chanter ? they do less dmg than a svg anyway

1 vs 1 yeah thats true..

But how many savages can wtfpwn 30 albs in less than 10 seconds..

NONE

But then same could be said about all pbae class's tbh ;p just Chanters have it all compaired to the rest. PBAE, Heat DD, Heat Debuff, Stun.. what more could you want for an RvR caster that wouldn`t totally overpower them even more ;p

shitty defense and crap hp means jack in the days of bodyguard.

 

[Dorin]

signed, nerf savages!!!! powr to chanters.

 

[ceixava]

emma, a savage overdamages a bm 100-0 no matter what styles i use

 

[Raven]

g3t some sk1lls instead noob

g3t is spelt G E T
Sk1lls is spelt S K I L L S

ahem "noob"

petition signed

 

[Asty]

there will be a lot less savage groups now though but whining is always fun i guess

 

[Tallen]

Chanters have it all compaired to the rest. PBAE, Heat DD, Heat Debuff, Stun.. what more could you want for an RvR caster that wouldn`t totally overpower them even more ;p

shitty defense and crap hp means jack in the days of bodyguard.

Chanter pbaoe is ENERGY, and they cant debuff that.

Sure baseline dd is heat, but thats only a baseline spell, not their main offence....

 

[Alme]

1 vs 1 yeah thats true..

But how many savages can wtfpwn 30 albs in less than 10 seconds..

NONE

But then same could be said about all pbae class's tbh ;p just Chanters have it all compaired to the rest. PBAE, Heat DD, Heat Debuff, Stun.. what more could you want for an RvR caster that wouldn`t totally overpower them even more ;p

shitty defense and crap hp means jack in the days of bodyguard.

theyre interuptable, a svg is not. and the heatdebuff is so short u gotta debuff every third nuke or smth

 

[Kalba]

Chanter pbaoe is ENERGY, and they cant debuff that.

Sure baseline dd is heat, but thats only a baseline spell, not their main offence....

Yeah and they hit for measly 500/dmg nuke

but yeah, savages are not balanced yet.

 

[emma]

emma, a savage overdamages a bm 100-0 no matter what styles i use

100 - 0 ?

damn you really should trade those bronze daggers in for some arcanite weapons imho.

 

[Phule_Gubben]

chanters got nerfed, and even if they didnt, they got crap hp and shitty defence atleast. and really, wtf is so omg wtf pwn about a chanter ? they do less dmg than a svg anyway

yes on 1 target each hit

 

[Phule_Gubben]

emma, a savage overdamages a bm 100-0 no matter what styles i use

Lo there, remember me?

QQ...

 

[Sycho]

100 - 0 ?

damn you really should trade those bronze daggers in for some arcanite weapons imho.

He's right though, savage hits way harder than bm if played right.

Played 50 merc/50 bm/50 zerk/50 savage.

Savage hitted way harder than all of them(discluding vendo mode).... you forgot about their dps buff with these silly growth rates... and most their growth rates are 1.45, not seen reavers as high as theirs at least it not as many styles, not sure about valewalkers though.

 

[Zzang]

He's right though, savage hits way harder than bm if played right.

Played 50 merc/50 bm/50 zerk/50 savage.

Savage hitted way harder than all of them(discluding vendo mode).... you forgot about their dps buff with these silly growth rates... and most their growth rates are 1.45, not seen reavers as high as theirs at least it not as many styles, not sure about valewalkers though.

Agreed. I have also played bm, merc, zerk and sva. all in good "gank grps" AD, RR, NP. merc rr6 bm rr8 zerk rr1-11 xD sav rr10.

And to say any of the other 3 tanks can come near the dmg output of a savage is just bs, also the pos behind stun is vry handy indeed. You can compare savages with prenerf zerks, meybe they are better, maybe not. I think not Anyways, i signed the petition. All should.

 

[Talivar]

You to sensible for a zerk zzang IMO u have some devious plot or something!

 

[Garbannoch]

It really is beyond me how Mythic can oversee such fundamental mistakes in game mechanics. Either Americans are completely retarded so they don't get the necessary feedback or #%$! knows what's happening there. And yes it WAS the same with chanters for a long time - they were better than any other mage but they did not dominate due to the general tank-oriented group setups.
Such stupidly overpowered class issues can and should be fixed but there is a much bigger mistake Mythic has made which can never be compensated: giving the 3 realms different amount of classes - this has and always will benefit Midgard the most (well together with 378216 instas per class).

 

[Talivar]

Problem(or blessing) with US ppl is they do know savage ect are overpowered just they dont seem to play as serious as us EU players so dont care as much(NOT counting VN boards).Many times on US servers id join rvr groups random or good setup and we would be zerged/killed by savage groups pre toa and instead of the rush to FH to whine like EU mode they just laugh and say lets try somewhere else.Ofc this attitude also leads to being not so competitive and eventually probally less skilled

 

[Farek]

plz dont nerf mumin :<

 

[Zzang]

plz dont nerf mumin :<

nerf Paladin MAs

 

[Lethul]

imo, savages should have a higher damage output than merc/bm/zerk since they sacrifice health for their dps. the main problem imo (i might think im abit biased tho ;P) is the dps buff. it is SUPPOSED to only affect _base_ damage, so if my clans call cap style damage is 100 and my base damage 200. i should hit for 300 without dps buff. fire off 20% dps buff i should have 100 style and 240 base equals 340 damage. for some reason the dps buff also increases style damage so i would hit for 360.

but yeah, we/they need some more nerfing

ps. these numbers are made up since i have no idea what my caps are atm i only know they are way higher xD

edit: signed, and now prozze. make a petition about dyeable cloaks to

edit: nerf my maths..

 

[swords]

I have signed the petition, Although fixing the quad bug was a good thing they are still overpowered, especially with the new TOA bonuses

 

[Phixion]

I'm not looking for a fight, I just want the game to be fair to everyone, they could give BM the growth rate tho, I dont care, just think it would be better to balance down then up.

LOL, coming from a BM come on please... BM is major FOTM, if more ppl played hib they would all be BMs, u guys hit harder than savages, if anything, nerf you.


Savages are nerfed enough, plus VW's get self haste, so do friars, does that mean they need a nerf too?

If you guys have played a savage post nerf, u will see the self buffs arent worth using, take way too much health, lasts 15s *wow*, savage is basically a light tank where u have to think twice whether to use something u spec upto 40+ for.

 

[Lethul]

LOL, coming from a BM come on please... BM is major FOTM, if more ppl played hib they would all be BMs, u guys hit harder than savages, if anything, nerf you.


Savages are nerfed enough, plus VW's get self haste, so do friars, does that mean they need a nerf too?

If you guys have played a savage post nerf, u will see the self buffs arent worth using, take way too much health, lasts 15s *wow*, savage is basically a light tank where u have to think twice whether to use something u spec upto 40+ for.

rofl, such clueless quality whine