Petition about RA's for Mincer in Frontier

Raven

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give friers am as some sort of chant, dont give it to mincers that way mincers wont be over powered and friars can stop moaning :)
 
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Lethul
Warden:
Minor Heal 1 3 5 8 11 14 18 23 29 37 47 6 HP
Heal 4 6 9 12 16 21 27 31 36 46
Resurrection 10
Minor Group Heal 15 25 35 45

Regrowth Specialization - Regrowth Spec.
Fatigue Regen (Self, Chant) 2
Major Heal 5 8 11 15 20 26 33 42
Buff (Self, Health Regen) 6 14 25 35 45
Fatigue Reduction (Self) 12 22 32 41
Resurrection 16

But aaaaaanyway

are you a fucking retard? can u not see the evidence youve just posted? the Warden get EVERYTHING the friar has by speccing into Regrowth...
yet to get all those the Friar has to spec into Enhance AND Rejuvination

Fatigue regen
Warden - regrowth
Friar - Enhance

Fatigue Reduce
Warden - regrowth
Friar - ENHANCE

By speccing into REGROWTH which is a HEALING LINE you get the benefit of end reducing buffs AND End Regen... to get the last End Reduce buff i CANNOT spec anything useful into Rejuv AT ALL
seeing a pattern there? plus the Warden gets a Health regen buff THAT LASTS and sticks.. Friars dont get shit.. it is indeed you that has missed the boat on this issue, please hibbie take your biased crap elsewhere and stop posting on a class you clearly have NEVER played.
 

Lethul

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Elewyth(TLSOA) said:
Friggs > Grp HoT on soo many lvls

and umm yes, well as a secondary healer Wardens not only get PBT, Caster Speed amongst other things.. Shamans get to be the Best buffers in Mid and Friars get......nothing... Friars are at the bottom of the heap as the realms secondary healers for soo many reasons..but had u actually played a friar you would know that, and also that a life xfer cabby can heal better than me... /sigh so many ignoramus FOTM players..go play with your savage/ranger whatever FOTM you feel you need to play to feel uber, there are many classes that require FIXING with fundamental flaws but you still whine about frickin AM not affecting you...puuuhlease...give me DEX instead of STR as a rising stat, give me a Rejuv line that is WORTH speccing into.. sort out my fucked up styles that just dont make sense, then whine about losing your precious Ra's
and for the record friar HoT works NOTHING near the Hib version, its substandard in Every way.

i just stated the facts, friars have the BEST secondary healing line. I did not say the class was the best of the secondary healers. far from

i just have to quote aussie, *************************************************
 
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Lethul said:
i just stated the facts, friars have the BEST secondary healing line. I did not say the class was the best of the secondary healers. far from

i just have to quote aussie, *************************************************
aah yes and i see you share the same brain cell as Aussie too.

so we have the BEST secondary healer line? ok sure..why do we have the BEST secondary healer line then?
we get no more tools than a shaman in our healing line, infact id say a Shaman wins simply because Friggs pwns all when it comes to HoT Type spells ive had the last Grp HoT as a friar, its laughable.. i often thought mythic had perhaps missed some code somewhere that makes it heal 60% under value to what it claims to heal... in paper the Friar Grp HoT sounds pretty damn cool, i even met a friar last week who had just specc'd for it only to agree to grp with him to show how crap it was.. i then GAVE him a respec stone which i no longer needed..i felt that sorry for him.. ive tried speccing full rejuv...on paper it should work..but it doesnt.. it just doesnt i dont know why, ask another full rejuv friar why it doesnt work... i couldnt figure it out..it should but it just doesnt... to have a viable playable (and when i say playable that depends on your outlook) spec you need to sacrifice other lines to achieve that, that's cool, doesnt bother me, but the sacrifice of Staff or Enhance to spec Rejuv just isnt worth it for the sake of a Grp HoT because when it boils down to it, thats all you get for speccing Rejuv in a Friar.. if u dont spec Rejuv u still have access to your base heals which for 99.9% of friars seems enough...otherwise you would see more rejuv friar floating about... the only way to make a secondary healer viable would be to give Grp and single target insta heals but of a weaker variation of those given to main healers.. and it would be nice if this VR proposed RA actually healed the user aswell, ffs whats the point of a grp insta that saves everyone but the one person you NEED to save to keep the grp alive..
yes im bitter about Friars sucking in Rejuv, i had hoped to go staff / rejuv spec, id hoped all those people telling me that Rejuv sucked were wrong and were just going off what other people had told them, but i see now they were right rejuv is the suckiest thing ever given to friars, it would have been nice to be able to heal my grp mates to a certain degree when the going got tough and the main healer was out of power and then wade in and help fight, as it is now im left whacking mobs buffed to the tits, with buffs that are self only and of no use to my grp.. i find it hard to justify my place in ANY grp other than for giving base buffs so the cleric can give more spec..hardly warrants a grp place tho does it. Friars need to be more defined, either they admit rejuv needs vamping up and making more attractive or they take it away and give me something else..its not really any kind of viable spec.. it just isnt.
 

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Elewyth(TLSOA) said:
aah yes and i see you share the same brain cell as Aussie too.

so we have the BEST secondary healer line? ok sure..why do we have the BEST secondary healer line then?
we get no more tools than a shaman in our healing line, infact id say a Shaman wins simply because Friggs pwns all when it comes to HoT Type spells ive had the last Grp HoT as a friar, its laughable.. i often thought mythic had perhaps missed some code somewhere that makes it heal 60% under value to what it claims to heal... in paper the Friar Grp HoT sounds pretty damn cool, i even met a friar last week who had just specc'd for it only to agree to grp with him to show how crap it was.. i then GAVE him a respec stone which i no longer needed..i felt that sorry for him.. ive tried speccing full rejuv...on paper it should work..but it doesnt.. it just doesnt i dont know why, ask another full rejuv friar why it doesnt work... i couldnt figure it out..it should but it just doesnt... to have a viable playable (and when i say playable that depends on your outlook) spec you need to sacrifice other lines to achieve that, that's cool, doesnt bother me, but the sacrifice of Staff or Enhance to spec Rejuv just isnt worth it for the sake of a Grp HoT because when it boils down to it, thats all you get for speccing Rejuv in a Friar.. if u dont spec Rejuv u still have access to your base heals which for 99.9% of friars seems enough...otherwise you would see more rejuv friar floating about... the only way to make a secondary healer viable would be to give Grp and single target insta heals but of a weaker variation of those given to main healers.. and it would be nice if this VR proposed RA actually healed the user aswell, ffs whats the point of a grp insta that saves everyone but the one person you NEED to save to keep the grp alive..
yes im bitter about Friars sucking in Rejuv, i had hoped to go staff / rejuv spec, id hoped all those people telling me that Rejuv sucked were wrong and were just going off what other people had told them, but i see now they were right rejuv is the suckiest thing ever given to friars, it would have been nice to be able to heal my grp mates to a certain degree when the going got tough and the main healer was out of power and then wade in and help fight, as it is now im left whacking mobs buffed to the tits, with buffs that are self only and of no use to my grp.. i find it hard to justify my place in ANY grp other than for giving base buffs so the cleric can give more spec..hardly warrants a grp place tho does it. Friars need to be more defined, either they admit rejuv needs vamping up and making more attractive or they take it away and give me something else..its not really any kind of viable spec.. it just isnt.

have you played shaman? now ive only played mentalist and shaman and i can say friggs is amazingly crap. you get cure disease/poison, warden gets nothing pretty much. How can you still say warden heal spec is better than friar? im sure most wardens would like to trade to your heals if it was about healing. Nah i dont share the same brain cells, im quite much smarter than aussie but that was one of the fucking best thing he has ever said, so why havent you ****************************
 
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Lethul said:
have you played shaman? now ive only played mentalist and shaman and i can say friggs is amazingly crap. you get cure disease/poison, warden gets nothing pretty much. How can you still say warden heal spec is better than friar? im sure most wardens would like to trade to your heals if it was about healing. Nah i dont share the same brain cells, im quite much smarter than aussie but that was one of the fucking best thing he has ever said, so why havent you ****************************


omfg i just realised you dont even know what he said do you? you repeat a complete moron who got banned and you have no clue as to what he said.. so please repeat it without the asterix's? shame you can't because:

1. You have no clue as to what he said
2. If you did repeat it you'd be banned now
3. You havn't the balls to repeat it even if you did know

so please, go away and crawl back under your rock and stop trying to act big and tough, your nothing but a little boy. But however if you think having cancer is a funny thing then i wish it upon you and your entire family, and we'll see who laughs the most then wont we... /sigh children they really do give you too many holidays these days.
 

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Elewyth(TLSOA) said:
omfg i just realised you dont even know what he said do you? you repeat a complete moron who got banned and you have no clue as to what he said.. so please repeat it without the asterix's? shame you can't because:

1. You have no clue as to what he said
2. If you did repeat it you'd be banned now
3. You havn't the balls to repeat it even if you did know

so please, go away and crawl back under your rock and stop trying to act big and tough, your nothing but a little boy. But however if you think having cancer is a funny thing then i wish it upon you and your entire family, and we'll see who laughs the most then wont we... /sigh children they really do give you too many holidays these days.

i know what he said, i even asked him *hug aussie* to be sure. i dont wish that upon you tho, i just wish you would stop posting on fh since all your posts are totall bollox. ive read a fair amount of posts on fh and i can say your posts have NEVER made any sence at all and is always useless whine thats most often totally wrong to
 

Moo

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Asha said:
what game are you playing moo? lol

no you just have insta stun and a nice mez and speed and CHAIN so you can get out of most sticky situations...

the mincers I play with aren't speed bots ... they do about 10 different jobs in a group.

you can have the highest pets in the game! If you're in a group, you can pick one up and fight while petting things. You're the only stealther with speed, chain, mez, insta stun, sos, decent pets, ablatives ... and you want more?

Minstrels are one of the best support classes of the game, maybe second to healers. You can demez, you can interupt like a bitch, you can supply power plus all of the above. Maybe you should watch some movies and see what a minstrel can do - normal groups, stealth groups, or yes, solo. Or maybe try playing another class with a good mincer if you think mincers are so crap.
you have absolutly no idea what you're talking about - and for that I pity you.
 

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ok moo
I don't know what I am talking about. I have no idea when I am playing with a good mincer and when not.

The difference is amazing, and you notice immediately if a mincer understands all the things he can do and does them or not. If you think it's a gimpy support class, you are doing something wrong.
 
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Asha said:
ok moo
I don't know what I am talking about. I have no idea when I am playing with a good mincer and when not.

The difference is amazing, and you notice immediately if a mincer understands all the things he can do and does them or not. If you think it's a gimpy support class, you are doing something wrong.

omg im sorry im actually agreeing with asha...eek sorry

Minstrels are a totally amazing class to play even at low levels.. even if this nerf goes in (is it really a nerf?) im not so sure.. AM is a powerful tool.. maybe it shouldnt heal the user, but giving it to minstrels who run in stealth gankg grps is a little over the top..
 

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Elewyth(TLSOA) said:
omg im sorry im actually agreeing with asha...eek sorry

Minstrels are a totally amazing class to play even at low levels.. even if this nerf goes in (is it really a nerf?) im not so sure.. AM is a powerful tool.. maybe it shouldnt heal the user, but giving it to minstrels who run in stealth gankg grps is a little over the top..
fine fuck am

give me back my IP at 100%, my dodger and my AP .

go play a solo mincer in emain and tell me my class is godmode, i love soloing but if i lose all my defensive ras im just an rp cow waiting for slaughter - so i'll have to group with 7 infils just to make ends meat.
 
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Moo said:
fine fuck am

give me back my IP at 100%, my dodger and my AP .

go play a solo mincer in emain and tell me my class is godmode, i love soloing but if i lose all my defensive ras im just an rp cow waiting for slaughter - so i'll have to group with 7 infils just to make ends meat.

your getting IP back now, at the same value as everyone else gets it in New Frontiers..cant really complain now can you..
 

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